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People who don’t carry their bank cards with them

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Auburngal · 16/03/2024 14:19

I was in Sainsbury’s this morning and systems are down. No contactless, chip n pin taking ages to go through. Unable to buy gift cards, mobile top up vouchers.

Systems going down like this happen not very often but when they do it’s awful.

On the self scan next to me a woman screamed at the manager on why she can’t pay on her mobile.

Why do many people don’t carry their bank cards anymore? The cards don’t weigh much. Plus if the contactless payment system goes down, hopefully their card will go through via chip n pin. Also they won’t look like idiots either. No sympathy for these.

Regarding contactless payments- sometimes your bank, NOT the retailer etc asks you to do a CnP payment as part of security. “I dunno my PIN”. You can change your PIN to any number you want (not 1234, 1111) at any ATM under PIN services.

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BobnLen · 21/03/2024 11:12

snowmichael · 21/03/2024 10:47

"just value plans which are probably no use"
What judgement are you using to come to that conclusion?
Lebara website https://www.lebara.co.uk/en/best-sim-only-deals.html shows the £5 plan, and I keep getting emails from them to upgrade to the £8 unlimited plan

I can’t see it and why did you say less than £5 was unlimited as it clearly isn’t. 5 gb is not unlimited

snowmichael · 21/03/2024 10:47

BobnLen · 20/03/2024 17:06

Where is this, I can't see it, just value plans which are probably no use, can you link so others can take advantage too

"just value plans which are probably no use"
What judgement are you using to come to that conclusion?
Lebara website https://www.lebara.co.uk/en/best-sim-only-deals.html shows the £5 plan, and I keep getting emails from them to upgrade to the £8 unlimited plan

BobnLen · 21/03/2024 09:29

Yes, many don't need unlimited, I get 30gb from Tesco for £11 and often use it all week, tethering my iPad in the caravan, downloading or streaming some TV each day and find 30gb is plenty for a week in the caravan and other general use when out and about at home.

NoWordForFluffy · 21/03/2024 08:34

That's why I got 21GB, @Bjorkdidit, as the £7.95 for that wasn't much more in cost than far less data. It's useful for office days / day trips / holidays to have more than needed.

Bjorkdidit · 21/03/2024 08:19

Check if you need unlimited data before paying for it. I pay £7 a month for 12 Gb and don't use anywhere near all of it, but got it on some sort of deal which meant it was only a pound a month more than a much smaller allowance like 2/3 Gb that I'd probably go over from time to time.

ZetuianRose · 21/03/2024 08:13

NoWordForFluffy · 20/03/2024 22:18

Cheapest unlimited data I can find is £15 on ID Mobile and £16 on Smarty.

But no, Lebara isn't the price a PP claimed!

Interesting, I’ll look into those! 👍🏻

NoWordForFluffy · 20/03/2024 22:18

Cheapest unlimited data I can find is £15 on ID Mobile and £16 on Smarty.

But no, Lebara isn't the price a PP claimed!

ZetuianRose · 20/03/2024 21:58

NoWordForFluffy · 20/03/2024 21:30

I didn't mention price. I was correcting your assumption re roaming.

Which would be great if it was the amazing offer that was suggested, but turns out it’s just like all the others 🤣 oh well. We nearly had a good deal ha!

NoWordForFluffy · 20/03/2024 21:30

ZetuianRose · 20/03/2024 21:10

But it isn’t cheaper……….

I didn't mention price. I was correcting your assumption re roaming.

BobnLen · 20/03/2024 21:15

@snowmichael where is the Lebara under £5 or even £8 for unlimited data, you practically said people were fools for paying more, I'm still waiting for that link.

ZetuianRose · 20/03/2024 21:10

NoWordForFluffy · 20/03/2024 15:54

Roaming is included on Lebara. You can tether to any phone and use your usual data allowance, no separate allowance needed.

But it isn’t cheaper……….

BobnLen · 20/03/2024 17:06

snowmichael · 20/03/2024 12:03

If it's old, why are you paying anything for the phone? Surely it's paid off now?
And obviously £10/month is excessive for just a calls/texts/data package (Lebara is under £5/month)

Where is this, I can't see it, just value plans which are probably no use, can you link so others can take advantage too

BobnLen · 20/03/2024 16:53

I looked at Lebara but it's Vodaphone like Asda mobile so I stick with Tesco which is O2, it depends which is best in your area

NoWordForFluffy · 20/03/2024 15:54

ZetuianRose · 20/03/2024 15:14

Not sure where you’re looking, but it isn’t £8. Having looked on their website it’s £25 per month on 30 day rolling, reduced to £22.50 if you sign up for 12 months. No mention of tethering allowance or data roaming so going to assume they’re not included. It’s no better than anywhere else tbh.

Roaming is included on Lebara. You can tether to any phone and use your usual data allowance, no separate allowance needed.

Allfur · 20/03/2024 15:37

Rainrainrainrainrainrainrain · 20/03/2024 15:34

Yes cars have made us lazier, less fit and the environment is struggling too!

Exactly, but it hasn't stopped people embracing them - that was in response to a pro cash poster claiming cards make us lazier

Allfur · 20/03/2024 15:35

taxguru · 20/03/2024 14:48

Interesting question. The thing is, though, that because of cars and being easy to travel to places like out of town retail parks, it's meant that more local shops and other facilities that were within walking distance have now closed down, meaning longer walks to those that remained open, meaning fewer journeys are now easily possible by foot. So, a kind of circular argument really.

20-30 years ago, you could, if you wanted to, walk to local shops, but now most "corner" shops have gone, you'd have to walk a lot further to your "nearest" shops! So it's not really a like for like comparison.

Surely that depends where you live?

Rainrainrainrainrainrainrain · 20/03/2024 15:34

Allfur · 20/03/2024 14:17

Should we still walk everywhere or do cars make us lazy

Yes cars have made us lazier, less fit and the environment is struggling too!

chaosmaker · 20/03/2024 15:32

taxguru · 20/03/2024 14:48

Interesting question. The thing is, though, that because of cars and being easy to travel to places like out of town retail parks, it's meant that more local shops and other facilities that were within walking distance have now closed down, meaning longer walks to those that remained open, meaning fewer journeys are now easily possible by foot. So, a kind of circular argument really.

20-30 years ago, you could, if you wanted to, walk to local shops, but now most "corner" shops have gone, you'd have to walk a lot further to your "nearest" shops! So it's not really a like for like comparison.

It's also less safer to walk around as there are less pairs of eyes 'on the ground' and if you're driving you're probably too busy watching for potholes/speedbumps etc to be safeguarding anyone as you go along.

Another circular argument there.

Auburngal · 20/03/2024 15:27

I worked in the collections department at a bank. Those customers who refused to pay their credit card bill if they had the money, majority of them withdrew the cash from a cash machine so what they don’t have their transactions traced.

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ZetuianRose · 20/03/2024 15:14

snowmichael · 20/03/2024 14:56

Unlimited data is only £8 with Lebara, but if you're getting it for a tenner that's not bad

Not sure where you’re looking, but it isn’t £8. Having looked on their website it’s £25 per month on 30 day rolling, reduced to £22.50 if you sign up for 12 months. No mention of tethering allowance or data roaming so going to assume they’re not included. It’s no better than anywhere else tbh.

taxguru · 20/03/2024 15:04

BreakingAndBroke · 20/03/2024 14:21

I always have an emergency £20 note in my phone case. Think it's a hangover from Brownies 30+ years ago when we had to make sure we had 10p in our purse in case we needed to call our mum. Be prepared! 😁

Yes, us "oldies" seem better prepared with a Plan B in case Plan A fails. Life was harder back then and we didn't have all the gadgets, gizmos and facilities which make us lazy and reliant today.

I'm pretty paranoid and not only have a Plan B, I often have a Plan C too! Not just with means to buy things or pay for things, but also for route options when driving or using public transport - I always know alternative routes/options when a road on my planned route is closed or congested due to an accident, or when a train breaks down blocking the line, or bad weather causes widespread train cancellations. Not to the extent of worrying so much that I lose sleep, but just with a small amount of time researching alternative routes via google maps or the train booking apps, etc.

It's something I've hammered into our son throughout his teenage years whenever he's got a bit blase about how to get home after being out/away with his mates, what he'd do if he lost his phone or his wallet, etc.

It worked well a few months ago when he went to London for the first time ever (well he'd been as an 8 year old child!). He went on his own due to work - well a few others from his workplace were going, but they weren't in his department and he didn't know them, so he was effectively on his own! He doesn't live with us, so I helped him plan the trains, underground, hotel accommodation, etc., over facetime with him. Well, he didn't need much help to do that as he's pretty switched on himself with researching things etc. But where I did stick my oar in was with contingency planning, i.e. what he'd do if he missed his train, what he'd do if he got lost, what he'd do if the hotel was double booked, etc - not to scare the shit out of him, but to get him thinking of what he'd do. In the end, it turned out necessary as on the day he was coming back, it was severe storms and literally all trains north from Kings Cross to the North East were cancelled, well, as usual, not officially cancelled, but all marked as "delayed" and Kings Cross staff hadn't a clue what would run, when, if at all. We'd been through this, and we'd agreed he'd get himself to Euston and get whatever train he could somewhere "north", preferably at least to Crewe, and even better to Manchester, so that he'd have options to get from Crewe to Manchester and then Manchester to Leeds and onto the North East. He did that, and managed to squeeze onto a Manchester train, literally the last person on it and it was the last train of the day to Manchester - others were being turned away by platform staff as it was severely overcrowded! He was the only person in his firm who got home that night - the others either had to find hotels in London, or got themselves out of London by overground trains or shorter distance trains to midlands towns and ended up in hotels there as the trains started finishing late in the evening. They hadn't contemplated what to do in case of a major failure in the train network, and were too slow to work out alternative routes and ended up missing the "last" trains going to Manchester and being turned away from Euston.

I know some people will regard that as extreme paranoia, but I really don't think it's particularly wrong to think about what may go wrong and spend a little bit of time researching alternatives etc., so that you're ahead of the crowds when things do go wrong.

NoWordForFluffy · 20/03/2024 15:02

snowmichael · 20/03/2024 14:56

Unlimited data is only £8 with Lebara, but if you're getting it for a tenner that's not bad

It's showing as £22.50 for unlimited data on Lebara. I pay £8 for 21GB with them.

snowmichael · 20/03/2024 14:56

ZetuianRose · 20/03/2024 12:26

£10 a month is far from excessive for a SIM only deal. People have different requirements, I want unlimited data, plus tethering and roaming, so I pay more than £10 a month SIM only.

Unlimited data is only £8 with Lebara, but if you're getting it for a tenner that's not bad

taxguru · 20/03/2024 14:48

Allfur · 20/03/2024 14:17

Should we still walk everywhere or do cars make us lazy

Interesting question. The thing is, though, that because of cars and being easy to travel to places like out of town retail parks, it's meant that more local shops and other facilities that were within walking distance have now closed down, meaning longer walks to those that remained open, meaning fewer journeys are now easily possible by foot. So, a kind of circular argument really.

20-30 years ago, you could, if you wanted to, walk to local shops, but now most "corner" shops have gone, you'd have to walk a lot further to your "nearest" shops! So it's not really a like for like comparison.

BreakingAndBroke · 20/03/2024 14:21

I always have an emergency £20 note in my phone case. Think it's a hangover from Brownies 30+ years ago when we had to make sure we had 10p in our purse in case we needed to call our mum. Be prepared! 😁