To think this is outdated and needs to be removed?

Well it seems these are the only pupils who matter and they must be considered at all times and no-one else matters.
Timmy smashes up a class room. Throwing chairs at people, rip things from walls, calls the teacher 'a fucking cunt' and assaults her, kicks off to extent the other children have to be removed from the classroom? 'Oh you poor petal, what's upset you? How dare anyone say this behaviour is wrong, must be someone else's fault! Not you!'
Who cares about the trauma and upset for the rest of the class, the physically and verbally assaulted teacher. And consequences for this behaviour? Nooo Timmy can't have consequences that's mean and detrimental to his wellbeing!

I don't see how it's humiliating to be put into another room if you're disrupting an entire class. The reason it's glass is so that staff can keep an eye on them and make sure they are working and not simply causing more trouble in another room.

If we're going to have a little cry about their mental health, let's spare a moment for the mental health or the children who are quietly trying to get on with their work but are having their education rudely disrupted by troublemakers. I remember the stress of trying to learn with other children mucking about and behaving appallingly as a shy, quiet teenager.

My dcs school is in a very modern building with many glass boxes (classrooms). My office likewise (meeting rooms).

Stop being a drama queen.

Should have added that there is a general disrespect for authority now in society, and that doesn’t help teenagers or teachers. Teenagers need to respect authoritative adults, because those adults are helping them to become adults. If they don’t do that, it all goes arse up, doesn’t it?

I would imagine it has an awful lot to do with the fact that there's not enough staff to mind the children who have been put out of class.

Two teenagers removed from class and put in another room to work without anyone keeping on top of them will obviously just have a muck about, so what's the point?

This solves the problem without needing additional staff to watch troublemakers.

Using humiliation as a means of punishment and control at a time where CAMHS is snowed under with teens with mental health concerns?

I don’t know what the solution is in schools. It’s part of a wider social problem, isn’t it? Children and young people’s ill mental health has been increasing for a long time now, particularly over the last 15 years. Kids with poor mental / emotional health are quite likely to act out and be difficult to teach. Teenagers are the most sleep deprived group in our society, due to teenage sleep needs ( it’s a biological thing that they have different sleep patterns to us and are programmed to sleep late) yet we won’t change the start of the school day to accommodate this. Sleep deprivation reduces empathy which will also lead to poor behaviour. And schools have a narrow academic focus which does not suit many kids yet they are all forced through it. No wonder disengaged kids act out. Then there’s all the pressure of social media/ online bullying. Not to mention watching violent online porn in their downtime. watching violence and degradation is hardly going to improve behaviour, is it? Then there’s the pressure on parents, with two parents working full time as life is so expensive, there’s not a lot of time leftover for the kids. I could go on.

We as adults have created this maelstrom for teenagers and then we think they are just wee shites if they are not thriving or behaving in it.

We need a whole scale systems rethink of the society we have created.

Surely not😂

The glass is likely for child protection and safe guarding. In our school, teachers are discouraged from being alone with children in spots with no windows and if they need to talk one on one, to do so in open view of others.

Isolation rooms aren’t supposed to be used to punish students. It’s more for if they are sensorily overwhelmed in a noisy distracting class setting and need to do work quietly but still under visual supervision of the teacher who can wander in and touch base with them.
Our isolation rooms are positioned within the classroom itself.

Funnily enough they do work. They allow 99% to have a disruption free learning so enabling them to get the best out of their education.

peoppe say this but a lot of the examples of bad behaviour are no different, just managed differently. I have worked in youth charities for 15 years and there are a lot of adults failing kids.

Bless you for thinking that was the real point of stocks.

Then perhaps they’ll think twice before breaking school rules? Seriously, this is not a ‘new’ thing. Disruptive students are removed and put into a room. Windows in are there to ensure that they behave, and if there are issues, other staff will see and can intervene.

Stop minimising your child’s behaviour and start parenting you child. 🤦

So what if it’s humiliating for them? Good!! Maybe they’ll learn to behave and not be disruptive in class.
Has your DC been put in this?

There are many more effective ways to manage this behaviour than ineffective discipline. My main issue with these methods is that they do not work. They especially do not work for the children. OST at need. I really hope you don’t work with young people as your post is just dripping with contempt, spite, and a lack of understanding.

Schools are very different places to the 90’s, try working in one

Oh boo hoo, learn to behave then
And as you’ve only got your son’s account you don’t actually know if this is true

You’ve answered your own question here~ “common” misbehaviour. It shouldn’t be common. It’s disruptive to the learning of other children and undermines the whole education system. Schools unfortunately have less and less reinforcement from home due parents like you questioning every decision.

Is it your child this room impacts?
no- then it literally has nothing to do with you.
yes- ask yourself what you can do to support your child make better behaviour choices.

I was shocked when my DCs went to the same secondary school I did and there was an isolation unit. That didn’t exist when I went there in the 90s, neither was the punitive disciplinary framework which imposes behaviour points for things like running in the halls, two teenagers telling each other to shut up etc - our teachers knew how to deescalate and manage behaviour without every little thing become pathologised as a disciplinary issue.

I agree with you OP. These schools are raising people who will be young adults in a couple of years. Are we put in a box of shame at work when we make mistakes? No.

This

Then they will learn not to mess about in class and disrupt other children’s education. The majority of children want to learn and dont want the lesson ruined by the tiny few. I feel so sorry for teachers these days trying to discipline disruptive kids.

But a glass isolation booth isn’t an answer to a pupil being violent. This should be suspension and a phone call to the police.

There is research which shows that internal isolation in secondary school is ineffective and disproportionately used for boys with SEN so I’m not sure this will help, more likely make it worse.