To think this is outdated and needs to be removed?

This too!

That needs to change, quick-time.

Edited to alter the mood of my previous post.

@northernbeee , until actions DO have consequences, fast and unpleasant ones, then kids will take the risk and the piss. Better applauded by your peers than respected by your teachers.

They’re ok to misbehave in front of everyone though? They’re fine with stuff like bullying peers, damaging property, physically and verbally abusing other students and staff. That’s fine to do publicly. It’s just the punishment that’s not ok?

The matter with me is that I don't spoil my kids rotten unlike you apparently

Gee, I don't know .. ever thought they should simply, I don't know, behave themselves?

Having taught in mainstream schools, I can tell you that this is quite mild. They're not being excluded. They're not being sent off to PRUs. Oh dear me, they're in an area that may be easily observed, how awful.

And this is exactly why this world is going to sh*t!! Children don't seem to realise that actions have consequences, because it doesn't happen at home anymore! Misbehave in class, go sit in the glass room - don't want to sit in the glass room, don't misbehave!

But they so solve something. They solve the immediate issue of potentially 29 other children having to forgo their own education because of one very disruptive person.

I don't disagree with you about the things that should be happening - but there is a reality here that this cannot be supported.

Two of my children are already in lower sets, struggling with dyslexia, and adding in a disruptive class (and no regular teacher - another issue) just means that they're more likely to come out of school with very low GCSEs. It worries me. And sorry, while I care in the abstract that the disruptive children probably have difficulty home lives etc. I have my own children and their futures and lives to worry about too. I don't see why their needs are lower down because they aren't the squeaky wheel.

@cottoncandy260 absolutely not. It's the parents and bloody mollycoddlers who are creating chaos NOT the over worked underpaid teaching staff who are barely allowed to teach and are expected to be counsellors, best buds, scapegoats etc!

Of course I don’t. Your ‘facetious’ comment just had an air of school blaming about it. Like all the teachers just sit around letting the kids misbehave because we think the behaviour is entirely appropriate and there should be no consequences.

It would be a fantastic insensitive for kids to behave.

I do hope you realise I was being facetious... or do you think pupils today should behave with impunity?

You really haven’t stepped inside a school since you were 16, have you?

It's now known as 'big feelings' and requires mollycoddling, blaming others, and lovely treats, NOT being told its unacceptable!

So if they behave and follow school rules, they are not put in there? 🤔 You know what I'd say to my kids in that case? "Don't be disruptive, spoil your education, the education of others in your class, and the teacher's lesson. Then you won't get put in there. Simples!!'
Suppose you want them to have a day out or a treat? 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️No wonder teacher's are leaving in droves with this attitude from lily livered parents.

Teachers have very little tools at their disposal these days to discipline students, maybe a bit of humiliation and degrading might work, kids don’t even respect teachers these days and all the parents do is complain that their previous little Mason can do no wrong 🤷🏼‍♀️

There are not enough over-ripe tomatoes or rotten eggs.

My teacher training PGCE is 20 years old, and I decided then I was never going to work in the state system. Education is a leg up and a route out of poverty in most of the world. But here, it's free and mostly quite decent. In the words of the immortal Dorothy Parker: you can lead a whore to culture, but you can't make her think.

The problem would be building enough stocks to keep up with the demand!

People that prey upon the elderly and disabled.

What’s with flipping tables all of a sudden? I never witnessed this once at school, throughout the whole 14 years. Now it seems to be a daily occurrence.

Personally, I've got nothing against the stocks for certain elements of society - people who mindlessly tag freshly painted walls, fly tippers, able bodied people who park in disabled spaces ... it'd be a just punishment.

The Headteacher at my DS previous primary school won't, yes I said won't, disciplin bad behaviour of selected DC "incase their parents go mad, they'll come in to see me and won't be happy"

Joke of a Headteacher, not fit for such a position where their decisions affect those that just want to get on with their day.
All they did is reiterate that bad behaviour is to be rewarded.

@MrsSunshine2b I think some schools need to rethink their priorities regardless of budgets. My DD got a strict telling off for wearing a pink hair tie in Year 2 while the worst-behaved child in the class got to spend the afternoon on an iPad if he’d managed not to overturn any tables that morning.

Yes, I agree, and if it's a consequence it needs to come with learning about why it wasn't OK and what needs to improve. But budgets are squeezed and I kind of agree with @Teajenny7 that the priority needs to be the kids who are behaving themselves.