To wonder why there's no BBC Panorama documentary into racism in the Tory party?

Yawn, more froth

TIL mass immigration is right wing.

The argument for universal suffrage grows weaker by the second....

All the best volbeat. I wish you luck in your ivory tower, and that you never complain about house prices or NHS wait times.

Well said @Saponatheim

I'm getting second hand embarrassment from some of the posters on here. Look at what governments do 🤣🤣🤣🤣 the tories have shafted us all and yet some posters here appear to enjoy the shafting

That's some leap in logic there @CoatRack

Again if your morals are so loose that you see nothing inhumane about treating others poorly then I've nothing else to say to you because you aren't capable of producing a decent counterargument. It's just froth and nonsense you spout.

yup tories are left wing, highest taxes, 700,000 migrants winged their over here. So obviously labour are right wing ?
was it you who said you look at a government’s actions ? There you go then 😂

Volbeat you need to get back on those blood thinners...

If deporting migrants is right wing, then importing them must be left wing.

We have had multiple years of record immigration, to the point where 1 in 6 people were born outside the UK; therefore the Tories are left wing.

Simples.

Rwanda is not off shoring processing as per the Australian system. There is no right to return.

It’s the same system. I’ve put quote in pp showing this

Being openly racist is winning the party votes I’m afraid. Years of uncontrolled immigration is causing the uk to descend back 100 years.

when society starts to fall apart people start to look for someone to blame. This is only the beginning of a very ling slippery slope

What’s that got to do with Aus policy?

I’m very lucky to have two sets of passports / citizenship and given the general trend around all this the dc now do too.

Aus did sort this ages ago and watching other countries struggle I’m glad to have it as an option, although generally v happy here.

Could, please, provide facts to back up your opinion? Otherwise, it sounds like a conspiracy theory.

It is and I truly hope it fucks up for the tories. Maybe we should send them to Rwanda with a no return policy. I'd settle for that.

Are you a migrant @EasternStandard ?

This is Aus in 2014. It was hardline a decade ago and no change even though the gov has switched. They don’t muck around with messaging

’“The message is simple, if you come to Australia illegally by boat, there is no way you will ever make Australia home,” he says.”

“If you travel by boat without a visa you will not make Australia home,” Campbell says. “The rules apply to everyone: families, children, unaccompanied children, educated and skilled. There are no exceptions. Do not believe the lies of people smugglers. These people will steal your money and place your life and the life your family at risk for nothing.”

A front bench that has served to legitimise the creation of ever more divisive, racist and right wing policy, so much so that a former Conservative Party Chair has called them out and other minority members are leaving.

Depressing, but unsurprising

were not where!

Rwanda is not off shoring processing as per the Australian system. There is no right to return.

Australian numbers actually continued to increase when off shoring was introduced. Numbers dropped off after turn backs where introduced. Not an option in the Channel for a variety of reasons.

Now we are paying refugees to go to Rwanda which is similar to the system introduced and subsequently ditched by Israel (again paying people to go to Rwanda and Uganda). I believe they found that migrants used the money given to them to spend on new traffickers to return.

I think you’d get nowhere. The supply of traffickers is almost endless as it is such a low barrier to entry and people selling in for huge profits

It’s a massive market because it takes advantage of the current system

There are loads of things set up in France btw drones, surveillance, police, fencing but traffickers can still get around it

@EasternStandard maybe the way to deal with trafficking is to go after the traffickers, not the people of whom they are taking advantage?

My solution to what? I’m posting about about increase in trafficking

When it comes to trafficking, it will go up and what is happening in the EU with the political shift is due to that.

The country I know about who have had success is in pp, Aus.

It brought in policy decades ago but Labor have retained it because they’d be mad to reverse.

Whatever a country does, whether it’s control like Aus or allow it it will cost. Aus already spend so maybe theirs won’t go up much, but other countries who are facing it and trying to work out how to deal with it will have increased costs whatever they do.

Travelling by any means possible to claim asylum isn’t illegal, no matter what the government say. Another example of a rightward drift for you. Asylum seekers are never illegal as long as they claim asylum at the first practical opportunity. If they hadn’t, we wouldn’t know about them. I can’t believe there are still people who have managed to ignore this basic bit of international law - it’s been discussed ad infinitum here and elsewhere.

@EasternStandard what’s your solution ?
Diverse front bench - how many aren’t millionaires ? And obviously no millionaire is racist eh ?

It’s still going through the process isn’t it?

People of any colour can be racist.

Yeah but the point I'm making is out government has bugger all to show for the money they've spent so far. Because the supreme Court ruled it as unlawful