I am not voting for Labour or Con…

Is he promising more of the same?

Is he promising to give dodgy PPE contracts to his mates via VIP lane for procurement?
Is he promising to take £10million off a man who wants to kill black women?
Is he planning to have a chancellor who had to pay fines for avoiding tax?
Is he promising a mini budget that crashed the economy?

I mean, I would also prefer a little bit more left wing policy from him but Starmer is not the same as the Tories.

Neither party represent me. I won’t vote Tory, but Labour are so desperate to get in they’re just telling everyone what they think will get them over the line, with the same predictable nothing to back up how they will pay for this Utopia they are promising. I think there will be a surge in people voting Reform. I live in the North, and many people are leaning towards Reform, a lot of whom used to vote Labour too. I appreciate they might not be the party for you OP, but I do get where you’re coming from. Both Labour and Tory are useless and have nothing to offer anyone apart from the same old, same old false promises.

But what's the point of we end up with Starmer who is promising more of the same. I will only vote Labour if they actually come out with some clear promises to raise pay etc. otherwise they can fuck off. I'd rather they lost and Starmer was replaced with someone with some principles. And I'm a labour party member!

As a slight aside it always amuses me how people believe a new cabinet in which all the members have zero experience in a role will miraculously do a better job. If you consider the size and depth of the departments and material they need to get a grasp of and the mechanics of government it's completely unrealistic.

I'll be voting reform too

Nobody cares that our wages will never support us. So why should I even bother voting?

Younger people have always voted lower as a %. This may have an impact on how much attention you get as a voting block.

Same Here

In this election, any vote for a party that isn't Labour, is a vote for the Tories. As a youngish single working Mum, nothing the Conservatives stand for is going to help me, or has helped me at all and frankly nothing they stand for is helping this country. Previously I would have voted Lib Dem, but they are a spent force and who know what they actually stand for. So I will hold my nose a vote labour, because I genuinely believe that's the only choice.

They can tell the difference between a man and a woman! That actually covers a lot in my opinion. I will be voting for them.

I agree op I feel the same.

The absolute massive game changer that could potentially alter everything and let ALL political parties know that we are unhappy with their decisions would be for all the none voters to vote for the opposition and then it would increase the numbers and positively show that people have recognised their right to vote, to challenge the way things are run and in order to maintain the vote the opposition who’d been voted in would have to make decisions swayed by the public and the losing party would have to make huge endeavours to challenge the leadership at the next election.

@Holliegee The reality is that Labour would crow about having been endorsed on the crappy 'don't scare the horses' policies they've put forward, little will change but all those now in the shadow cabinet will get big jobs from which to start feathering their post parliamentary careers nest. A vote for Labour is a vote for Labour, it is not a vote to say we are not happy with the direction of the country, when Labour aren't proposing to change anything about the direction of the country. It's madness and it's how NOTHING EVER CHANGES.

Pretty much everything.
Starmer u turns according to which way the wind blows, he is clearly not a leader. A Labour gvt will be torn between the hard left and the Blairites and the result will be a mess but there is no alternative

Labour and Conservative parties are two cheeks of the same arse nowadays with only the looney lefties being slightly worse than the Tories.

I feel the same. I don’t like either party. Green Party I think for me.

Don't bother voting then. Or do us all a favour and vote Labour.

Studies show that Tory voters always vote.
Their votes are literally guaranteed.
The absolute only way to change anything is to vote for the opposition, they have had many years of seeing what the public don’t want and how the Tories have made huge mistakes (imo).
To vote for a party that has no chance of leadership is almost akin to voting Tory.
The absolute massive game changer that could potentially alter everything and let ALL political parties know that we are unhappy with their decisions would be for all the none voters to vote for the opposition and then it would increase the numbers and positively show that people have recognised their right to vote, to challenge the way things are run and in order to maintain the vote the opposition who’d been voted in would have to make decisions swayed by the public and the losing party would have to make huge endeavours to challenge the leadership at the next election.

The way I see it, is that this political party are doing nothing for me and hindering any development so I cannot do anything else other than to vote for labour in the hope that change will come and although it will be slow as they undo the damage already done - it will shake the Tories up and let them see their safety WASNT guaranteed.

One of Reform's policies is zero waiting lists - do you really believe that?

God I hope you're right and this country isn't about to vote in favour of xenophobia and economic extinction AGAIN. Once can be forgiven...

what do reform say about women's rights?

If I was still in the UK I would be spoiling my ballot. That is what ive done the past few elections - can’t bear to vote for either of the main parties who (and can’t remember who to attribute this too) are cheeks of the same arse. TBF the political situation and the apathy I feel towards it was a major decision as to why we left.

I think I'm going Reform too.

If there is a strong Independent in your constituency, consider voting for them. Labour are only going to manage to decline a bit better, they have no ideas to get this country back to where it needs to be. They're centre right, just like Blair and his cronies were. Reeves banging on about fiscal discipline is breath taking when people can see with their own eyes that the country is literally falling apart at the seams. Fuck kow-towing to the right wing media barons. Set out a vision and begin the process of bringing people with you. Show them how you're going to make the country better, so that when they do vote, it will be a vote that endorses you, not a vote against the other lot.

A handful of strong independents will send a very clear message that this country wants neither of the two big beasts anymore. Labour are supposed to represent the workers, not be a place holder for the party of the privileged until they get their arses back in gear and reinvent themselves enough to take the reins again. Stuff them, they've both had a hand in selling us out, selling us short, and selling us off.

I am a migrant. I'll be voting Reform.

Spoiling your vote is not throwing your vote away.

If you believe that you will believe anything. See who came second in your constituency OP and vote for them.

"In time of trouble or of doubt,
kick the sitting member out"

I don't like or trust either main party and don't have a clue which one I will vote for as they are as bad as each other. But one of them will get in since other parties don't stand a chance against them really.