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I am not voting for Labour or Con…

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EddyF · 14/03/2024 08:13

What party can I vote for that may have a chance? I do not want to waste a vote but may have to. As a young(ish) Black woman, none of the above present me. I was born here as were my parents. Originally from East Africa. Spent a lot of holidays there as a child but not so much as an adult, otherwise I would seriously think of going back to live there.

I have always voted Labour but they are disappointing. For the first time, I am thinking of not voting but it does not sit right within me.

I might try the Green Party I guess.

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Pieceofpurplesky · 14/03/2024 13:16

Scares me that women actually want to vote for reform, Lee Anderson joined them because he 'just wants his country back' and you only need to do a quick google to see why he was evicted from the tories.

The 'policies' that they promote are unworkable and will impact women more than men.

MobileStationery · 14/03/2024 13:15

ilovesooty · 14/03/2024 13:08

In what way will they actually make women's lives better?

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You seem to be spoiling for a fight, ain't no one got time for that, read this:

www.reformparty.uk/our-contract-contents

dontcryformeargentina · 14/03/2024 13:13

@Ilovesooty don't you worry about my vote. Labour will win anyway. However, by voting Reform , the message will be sent to our political elite that they can't ignore public.

ilovesooty · 14/03/2024 13:08

dontcryformeargentina · 14/03/2024 12:57

@ilovesooty They know what a woman is and advocate lower income taxes. Reform is not ideal but I hate them less than Conservatives and Labour.

In what way will they actually make women's lives better?

BobnLen · 14/03/2024 13:05

I’ll be voting Reform this time

cardibach · 14/03/2024 13:05

dontcryformeargentina · 14/03/2024 12:57

@ilovesooty They know what a woman is and advocate lower income taxes. Reform is not ideal but I hate them less than Conservatives and Labour.

Which public services will they cut to fund these lower taxes? Bet you my bottom dollar they would affect women more (they generally do).

BobbyBiscuits · 14/03/2024 13:02

Unfortunately the way the voting system works, to vote green would be to throw the vote away. I would say please do vote though. Labour will be better than the Tories. But voting for minority parties doesn't really work right now. Though of course it's your choice.

cardibach · 14/03/2024 13:02

Outofideas79 · 14/03/2024 10:32

In this election, any vote for a party that isn't Labour, is a vote for the Tories. As a youngish single working Mum, nothing the Conservatives stand for is going to help me, or has helped me at all and frankly nothing they stand for is helping this country. Previously I would have voted Lib Dem, but they are a spent force and who know what they actually stand for. So I will hold my nose a vote labour, because I genuinely believe that's the only choice.

That’s not true in every constituency. Please find out which candidate is most likely to unseat/keep out a Tory in yours and vote for them. Sometimes a vote for Labour risks enabling the Tories to get/keep the seat

MississippiAF · 14/03/2024 13:01

I agree Op. There is no one to vote for.

ilovesooty · 14/03/2024 12:58

Interesting to see potential Reform voters showing their faces.

cardibach · 14/03/2024 12:58

hosethepatio · 14/03/2024 09:00

I won't be voting for who I think will be best for me as an older white woman, I'll be voting for who I think might get the country back on its feet.

Sadly I can't work out who that is

It’s whoever will get the Tories out in your constituency. The Tories are the least likely to get the country back on its feet, therefore the imperative is to remove them.

dontcryformeargentina · 14/03/2024 12:57

@ilovesooty They know what a woman is and advocate lower income taxes. Reform is not ideal but I hate them less than Conservatives and Labour.

cardibach · 14/03/2024 12:54

Overthebow · 14/03/2024 08:25

Labour aren’t any better than conservatives. I don’t think I can vote for either party and have no idea who to vote for either.

This is just nonsense. The current Conservative Party is incompetent, corrupt and engaged in deliberately making things worse for people so they can funnel money to themselves/their friends. Labour are far from perfect , but they emphatically are not the same as this.

ilovesooty · 14/03/2024 12:52

dontcryformeargentina · 14/03/2024 09:06

I'm a woman of colour- will be voting Reform. Hate Tories ( used to vote for them in the past) and Labour doesn't represent my interests at all. It will be Reform for me

How does Reform align with your interests and values?

Jovacknockowitch · 14/03/2024 12:51

What party can I vote for that may have a chance?
As others have pointed out due to our shit system only Labour or the Tories have a chance to form the next government, so voting anything else in 99% of constituencies is just a waste unfortunately as your wishes will count for nothing.

iwafs · 14/03/2024 12:48

I feel the same as you. Voting Con or Lab doesn't appeal to me at all.

I thought that there had been talk of a "none of the above" box. I would probably put a cross in that box.

Asiatoyork · 14/03/2024 12:45

For me it’s even beyond the manifestos at this point (within reason). Standards in public life and political behaviour have been destroyed by the Tories. The main priority for me is getting them out. I genuinely believe Starmer is a heck of a lot more decent.

KnittedCardi · 14/03/2024 11:54

Also just to add, I am not surprised Reform has a lot of support. Look to Europe and see the political spectrum changing. I suppose at least they have multi party systems which lend to more balance, but that balance is definitely moving right.

CroftonWillow · 14/03/2024 11:54

Spinet · 14/03/2024 11:29

That's why they have civil servants. What you're basically doing here is arguing against change of government generally, and therefore you're arguing against democracy. Which I'm sure our current govt would be happy to do without.

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I'm not arguing against anything. Just highlighting a wrinkle in the system.

KnittedCardi · 14/03/2024 11:48

I'm waiting for manifestos..... Sadly these usually show, on balance, I should vote Conservative, as I am Center/center right.... But then perhaps that's where Labour are now. It's tricky, because I don't like the Unions/far left side of Labour.

I had a Lib Dem round the other day. Perfectly nice chap. He wasn't very happy with my questioning on TWW, his response, well setting that aside, who would you vote for? Well no, that is important to me, and some of their MP's, and their leader TBF, are completely bonkers, see also Greens.

My main issue is we have been relocated to a faraway constituency which has no bearing on our area at all. We feel completely disenfranchised and unrepresented.

If a local candidate, residents or similar, stands, I will vote for them.

Jason118 · 14/03/2024 11:47

I want more people to vote Refoam, best way to GTTO.

Blackcats7 · 14/03/2024 11:35

All that will achieve will be to help the tories stay in power.
The only way to remove them is to vote labour.
I don’t agree with everything labour currently says but I can’t stick the tories a moment longer and our poor country will be further towards total ruin if we don’t shift this corrupt and incompetent shower very soon.

Spinet · 14/03/2024 11:29

CroftonWillow · 14/03/2024 10:46

As a slight aside it always amuses me how people believe a new cabinet in which all the members have zero experience in a role will miraculously do a better job. If you consider the size and depth of the departments and material they need to get a grasp of and the mechanics of government it's completely unrealistic.

That's why they have civil servants. What you're basically doing here is arguing against change of government generally, and therefore you're arguing against democracy. Which I'm sure our current govt would be happy to do without.

BashfulClam · 14/03/2024 11:14

I defo the same and in Scotland I can’t vote SNP or the Greens as they are utter clowns so I’m stuck!

Jovacknockowitch · 14/03/2024 11:12

CroftonWillow · 14/03/2024 10:46

As a slight aside it always amuses me how people believe a new cabinet in which all the members have zero experience in a role will miraculously do a better job. If you consider the size and depth of the departments and material they need to get a grasp of and the mechanics of government it's completely unrealistic.

They may have less experience, but one part of my definition of a better job would be in it not being a top priority to enrich all their mates with our money.