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I am not voting for Labour or Con…

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EddyF · 14/03/2024 08:13

What party can I vote for that may have a chance? I do not want to waste a vote but may have to. As a young(ish) Black woman, none of the above present me. I was born here as were my parents. Originally from East Africa. Spent a lot of holidays there as a child but not so much as an adult, otherwise I would seriously think of going back to live there.

I have always voted Labour but they are disappointing. For the first time, I am thinking of not voting but it does not sit right within me.

I might try the Green Party I guess.

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RubyOtter · 15/03/2024 09:53

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LyndaLaHughes · 15/03/2024 09:48

Runningwildish · 14/03/2024 23:55

There's a theme of vote Labour, women's rights to dignity, privacy, safety and fairness are less important than anything else. Just vote Labour. Yeah , don't like what they are selling. If that's the Labour stance now , goddess knows what shit they'll serve up to women and girls if they get in.

There is a huge misconception that is being perpetuated on Mumsnet constantly about the current Labour position on women. I suggest people actually check this before repeating the same tropes about issues Labour have already changed policy on and admitted they got wrong. The current stance is in line with the vast majority of the public. I'm really fed up of this issue being pushed along with "they spent all the money" - at least they spent it to invest in the country as opposed to the Tories lining their own pockets all while actually accruing more debt themselves than every single previous Labour government combined. It's literally all the Tories have as they've been so utterly shit for so long. We have no policies and still blame Labour for us being so crap. It's pathetic.
Please read the Labour manifesto and check the actual position on Women's rights. The irony of this issue when faced with a government who actually presided over the shit show on gender and have done utterly nothing to support women with their misogynist attitudes is just laughable.

ilovesooty · 15/03/2024 09:11

caringcarer · 15/03/2024 07:46

By cutting something less important I expect. For me the defence of the UK is number 1 priority. Putin is becoming more unstable each year.

I'd like to know what, given their plans to take so many people at the lower end out of paying tax.

Startingagainandagain · 15/03/2024 08:06

My advice would be to vote tactically.

We have to get rid of this racist, corrupt, useless Tory government who brought misery on the UK.

In some places that might mean voting Lib Dem rather than Labour.

Green is another option, but please look at whether your vote might help a Tory stay in place if you go for a party that realistically has no chance to get an MP...because helping a Tory keep their seat is truly the worst option.

Spendonsend · 15/03/2024 07:54

I dont know who is standing in my area. Last time we had this progressive alliance so a lot of candidates witthdrew and put their support into the lib dem.
The time before there was an excellent independent.

Its been a safe Tory seat since it was a seat but it might change.

SnapdragonToadflax · 15/03/2024 07:54

If you've always voted Labour, what is it you don't like about them this time around? They stand their best chance of getting in, so it seems odd to stop voting for them now.

You need to look at your local constituency and decide based on that. I'll be voting Lib Dem because they're the second party to the Tories here, and my main priority is getting the Tories out (especially our useless local Tory MP). I want Labour to win though. You need to think pragmatically.

And anyone who thinks Keir Starmer's Labour is anything like the Johnson/Truss/Sunak Tory party is deluded.

isittheholidaysyet · 15/03/2024 07:53

purkey97 · 14/03/2024 08:21

None - don't throw your vote away. If you want this current detestable government out, vote Labour, no one else has even the slightest chance. I deal with politicians in my line of work and Labour are just currently playing the game to win - once they get in, they will be able to be more 'Labour' - at the moment they're trying to win over Tory voters. Voting Reform is the only other way the Tories are likely to lose votes, but by the sounds of it they won't represent you either.

Are Labour actually trying to get elected?

I thought they had been spending the last few years trying to appeal to as few people as possible.

If this is them trying to get elected them I'm worried.

(I am also someone who rarely finds anyone to vote for)

caringcarer · 15/03/2024 07:46

ilovesooty · 15/03/2024 01:11

How are they going to pay for it?

By cutting something less important I expect. For me the defence of the UK is number 1 priority. Putin is becoming more unstable each year.

Normandy144 · 15/03/2024 07:40

Do your research in your local constituency. That's what matters. It's not the X factor. You need to look online at past results in your area to see who has a realistic chance of winning. Who is bothering to leaflet drop and knock on doors in your area? That will tell you what you need to know.

If you want to get the conservatives out then your best chance is this strategy. So it will either be Labour or Lib Dems and if you're in Brighton then Greens. Where I am it's LD who always come in 2nd with the next largest share so that's who will vote for. Labour don't bother with big campaigns where we are because they can see it's money wasted. Do I agree with everything they stand for? No. But do I want another conservative government? No.

decionsdecisions62 · 15/03/2024 02:55

If you don't vote then you deserve what you get. Not voting is always the most stupid response.

TooBigForMyBoots · 15/03/2024 02:45

jcyclops · 15/03/2024 00:51

I used to live in one of the rare 3-way marginals and I always voted as I felt my vote counted. Since I could first vote, the constituency has returned an MP from all 3 of those parties. I haven't moved house, but due to boundary changes introduced before the 2010 election I now live in one of the safest Labour seats in the country. I vote in all council elections and voted in the 2011 and 2016 referendums, but I can't be bothered to vote in general elections as it is a total waste of time.

I live in NI.

None of the major parties stand here. Mine has been a safe seat for decades. But every election I vote against them regardless.

I know my vote won't change the world or has any impact on the UK as a whole. I vote because it's the only chance I have to make the powerful listen.

If you can't be arsed to vote do you deserve democracy?Confused

OnlyTheBravest · 15/03/2024 01:13

I just could not bring myself to vote for any of the the main parties, so I will be voting for the best independent as there usually are a couple to choose from. Failing that I will spoil my ballot.

ilovesooty · 15/03/2024 01:11

caringcarer · 15/03/2024 01:10

Reform want to increase the 2 percent currently spent on defence to 2.5 by 2027 and to 3 percent by 2030. Defending the UK should be the number 1 priority for any party. They also want to invest in education for ex defence personnel after they leave service so they can get other jobs.

How are they going to pay for it?

ilovesooty · 15/03/2024 01:10

Pieceofpurplesky · 15/03/2024 01:07

Ah yes, the amazing policies of the reform party 😠

Oh yes. 30p Lee. Now 3 parties Lee. 🙄

caringcarer · 15/03/2024 01:10

passthepenguin · 14/03/2024 13:21

I will be voting Tory. It will be a wasted vote otherwise. Yes they haven’t been great but Labour will be so much worse.

Some mps in the Labour Party appear to be in support of the gender ideology cult which means a higher chance of children being indoctrinated and exposed to gender woo at school and I worry about the harm this could cause.

Defence spending is important to me given what is going on in the world at the moment and although the tories haven’t been great I think Labour will be even worse. They will also be worse on border security, letting in even more people who are not in genuine need of asylum and just seeking to exploit the system for financial gain. There isn’t enough housing for 700k plus newcomers to the Uk as it is.

Reform want to increase the 2 percent currently spent on defence to 2.5 by 2027 and to 3 percent by 2030. Defending the UK should be the number 1 priority for any party. They also want to invest in education for ex defence personnel after they leave service so they can get other jobs.

ilovesooty · 15/03/2024 01:09

Itscatsallthewaydown · 15/03/2024 00:58

You do realise that Reform is just the rebadged Brexit Party? That bunch of chancers and liars?

I imagine a good few potential Reform voters voted for Brexit (led by chancers and liars) and then for chancer and liar Johnson in 2019.

Pieceofpurplesky · 15/03/2024 01:07

Ah yes, the amazing policies of the reform party 😠

I am not voting for Labour or Con…
Itscatsallthewaydown · 15/03/2024 00:58

caringcarer · 15/03/2024 00:53

I'll be voting for Reform UK too. The UK is in a terrible way and law and order is in decline. We need new ideas and a party who can move us forward and grow the economy.

You do realise that Reform is just the rebadged Brexit Party? That bunch of chancers and liars?

Tatumm · 15/03/2024 00:56

Just vote for whoever is likely to unseat the Tory in your constituency. It’s that simple. I don’t like the current version of Labour either.

caringcarer · 15/03/2024 00:53

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 14/03/2024 09:18

You must be crazy. Vile, nasty, racist, rabidly right wing, and full of rich men pretending to be working class. Ugh!

I'll be voting for Reform UK too. The UK is in a terrible way and law and order is in decline. We need new ideas and a party who can move us forward and grow the economy.

jcyclops · 15/03/2024 00:51

I used to live in one of the rare 3-way marginals and I always voted as I felt my vote counted. Since I could first vote, the constituency has returned an MP from all 3 of those parties. I haven't moved house, but due to boundary changes introduced before the 2010 election I now live in one of the safest Labour seats in the country. I vote in all council elections and voted in the 2011 and 2016 referendums, but I can't be bothered to vote in general elections as it is a total waste of time.

Diamondcurtains · 15/03/2024 00:20

I haven’t decided yet but I won’t be voting Conservative or Labour.

ThisQuickFinch · 15/03/2024 00:19

TooBigForMyBoots · 15/03/2024 00:04

Sorry, missed this post.

So you are a Labour MP and your husband is a boat?🙈

Yup, and both enthusiastic Reform supporters.

TooBigForMyBoots · 15/03/2024 00:04

ThisQuickFinch · 14/03/2024 23:55

Sorry, forgot to mention DP (who is a small boat) will also be voting Reform.

Sorry, missed this post.

So you are a Labour MP and your husband is a boat?🙈

TooBigForMyBoots · 15/03/2024 00:01

ThisQuickFinch · 14/03/2024 23:52

I am a Labour MP. I will be voting Reform.

Why are you a Labour MP when you believe in Reform?Confused

Surely you can just go over now?

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