I am not voting for Labour or Con…

WTF are Believers?

Waste of time in Brighton now too. They were atrocious and now they’ve gone. Left the city in a mess.

Wow. That’s scary.

Here is a 6 step plan from Reform on how to stop the boats.

Can any of their voters explain what they mean by 'believers'?

It never did with UKIP. We had an entire UKIP town council near here at one point with a couple of district councillors. They never managed to get a parliamentary seat without Tory defections.

I think they'll do well in the upcoming Council Elections. Which could translate into more than a couple of MPs in the GE later this year.

Unless you're in Brighton, a vote for Green is a vote for the Tories in the same way that voting Reform helps Labour.

In most election years, it wouldn't matter so much. This year, though, is something of a special case because the country's on the verge of collapse.

Greens were the worst. They did absolutely nothing. Totally incompetent. Waste of time.

I vote green. Dh votes labour.

I'm like many, have no clue who to vote for. Our local MP is Conservative has been in post since 1997 and the area I live in has a huge Conservative majority. There is no way this will be overturned.

However, this MP, does, as far as I'm concerned, nothing for the local community. Has no social media accounts and doesn't, I believe, even have email. If you want to contact him you have to send a good old fashioned letter.

It drives me mad that he will once again be our consituencies voice in Parliament.

So, I'm stuck, I will not vote Conservative as I have in the past, I don't want to vote Labour, but feel that any other vote will be wasted, but equally, wouldn't want to not vote as who knows there maybe many like me in my consitituency who feel the same and the change has to start somewhere.

I'm edging towards Reform but it depends if anyone will stand for that party where I am.

The whole lot right now is a total shit show.

I agree. Reform are as great for the Labour Party as Bernie Sanders was for Donald Trump. Or to put it another way, Reform are as bad for the Tory Party as Jeremy Corbyn and Ed Milliband were for the Labour Party.

Indeed. A Tory MP said a few weeks ago that a vote for Reform is a vote for Labour. It was one of the few occasions when they’ve been right.

Honesty I’m pretty happy to see Reform polling as it is (in line with UKIP’s best ever performance at a GE).

Realistically, they’d be doing well to win 1 or 2 seats, but they could cost the Tories several.

But Reform is just UKIP repackaged. There's always been a party like that in British politics - different name, same shite.

Reform.....all the way

@WalkingaroundJardine interesting! Sounds like a good system, assuming you can get out of it if you have a good excuse. Presumably they don't actually enforce it much, but having the rule there makes a cultural expectation that everyone votes. Which is a good thing.

I'm not a Tory supporter. Over the years I've voted for the party who i think represents what i want at the time. I've voted for both Labour and tory. I'm not a dimwit who votes for the same party my entire life just because my parents and their parents voted for them. But whilst I wont be voting tory this time (i did at the last GE), I also won't be voting Labour. Its bad for politics that these are really the only two real choices we have, which is why i think its good for party's like Reform to enter the mix.

But I absolutely don't want a Labour government

That’s your credibility gone - I don’t believe a word about Labour voters turning to Reform now. Talking of knuckledraggers, even three party Lee wasn’t as extreme as that - he went via the Tories.

Let's be honest here, most of the knuckle draggers are in the Labour Party. Rough as bears arses.....

Vote Labour. No point in doing anything else in this system. Get this government out!

They don't have the funds available to properly contest enough seats to get near to power. And, with the SNP vote turning almost exclusively Labour (which is all but inevitable), Reform won't be able to make a significant dent in the chances of Labour getting in. They will, however, take most of the knuckle-dragging vote away from the Conservatives.

I agree. I am a British ex pat living in a country where voting is mandatory. At first when I arrived here I thought it was terribly unreasonable to force people to vote but then I found out you don’t actually have to vote, you just need to turn up at the voting station and get your name ticked off. Most people then just go ahead and vote anyway, since they are there. If you don’t turn up you get a small fine.

As a result, voter participation rates in the voting system is very high in this country- around 90% I believe. I live behind a primary school which acts as a voting station and it’s great to see the long lines on election day.
And I think it does keep extremism at bay since the discouraged people are no longer just staying at home but putting in a vote.

@EddyF I am a person of colour too and I think it’s really important for us to vote in these crazy times. I did opt for the Greens in the last few elections but my vote gets redistributed to my second choice if the first party does not get in, which is usually Labor. That does give The Greens a say in the Upper House but I don’t think that would be the case in the UK from what I remember.
Many Labour type parties all over the world have had to move toward the right of centre to get votes. To me this is not ideal but tactically better than ending up with US style populism, which is what the Conservatives seem to be edging towards. If Trump gets in, it will be because many people stayed at home.