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Worried about DSs friend subsiding their trip

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LizLooo · 13/03/2024 18:03

DS is 18, he's in sixth form, due to go to uni next year to study accounting and finance. He has 3 main friends at school, he does socialise with more but 3 are his core friends, 2 girls, 1 guy.

One of DSs friends parents passed away when they were younger. From what I can tell they were left a sizeable inheritance and some was earmarked for travel. This friend and DS had been friends since about Y8.

DS hasn't worked through school. He had a job in the summer after his GCSEs and continued it a little into Y12 but his mental health was declining. I felt it was too much to be at school 8.30-3.15, then study groups, then homework, plus sports and socialising. I didn't feel like he should have to be spending the equivalent of a full time job at work or school so young. Since then we give him an allowance and he focuses on his studies. We are all happy with this.

This summer his 3 friends and him want to travel Europe. The friend with the sizeable inheritance has said she will cover hostels, so they can stay somewhere a little nicer and go to more expensive cities. DS would just need flights and inter-rail pass plus spending money then. He had money in his child trust fund account that he can use for this.

However I'm concerned, that the friend who is subsidising the trip is going to take control or feel entitled to call the shoots and DS may not have as good of a time. I'm also worried the friend may resent it and it cause issues in the group more widely. I know the friend is a nice person but I'm still concerned.

AIBU to want to recommend to DS he only does what he can personally afford, even if that means half the trip or similar? Or do you think it's fine for his friend to subsidise the trip?

OP posts:
TheM55 · 16/07/2024 03:26

Got to admit, the whole thread is a slightly surreal, and yeah agree with most, "pay your own way is fairest", but it is 3am and @NineofPopes posts have made me laugh for being such obvious wind up bait for mumsnetters, yet with so few takers...

candyisdandybutliquorisquicker · 16/07/2024 03:03

WillYouPutYourCoatOn · 13/03/2024 21:06

It's vile. Absolutely vile.

It's genuinely one of the worst things I've read on here.

I agree. I'm really taken aback by the coddling of this young adult. In my world he'd be getting a job or cutting his cloth accordingly. Not being covered by a friend's inheritance.

Domino20 · 16/07/2024 01:57

If Mumsnet were a person it would have some kind of multiple personality disorder. Any thread that is ever posted about Shamima Begum is overwhelmingly filled with people claiming that there is no way she was groomed, at 15 she knew what she was doing....etc etc. This young lady wants to spend a few quid on her friends and having a great holiday and suddenly she must be vulnerable and in need of guidance. Seriously, this forum is utterly bizarre. OP, your sons friend is 18, wants to have a nice holiday with her mates, the people calling you and your son names have lost the plot. Let them get on with their holiday plans, it's fine.

Willyoujustbequiet · 16/07/2024 01:44

LizLooo · 13/03/2024 20:31

Working isn't an option. Not asking for or taking opinion on this. He enjoys his sport he has the rest of his life to work. End of.

He has the rest of his life to save up for a holiday rather than sponging off an orphan. Disgusting.

It appears a lot of thought has been given to sport but none at all to instilling morals.

CurrentHun · 16/07/2024 01:30

OP if your son was an orphan would you want your som spending his inheritance on a holiday for his mates to go on?
Exacty, no way of course not.

Why on earth does this seem ok to any adult or young person involved. Surely this is a spoof thread.

ChatBottomedGirls · 16/07/2024 01:05

OP ignore all the other posters who are calling you names for daring to entertain someone spending their money how they wish

I suspect if you had left the friend's gender ambiguous, or it had been a male friend, replies wouldn't be so harsh because it's not a male friend "taking advantage" of a young woman who can only ever be a victim.

She isn't paying for the whole trip. Friends are all contributing towards the trip by paying for flights and train travel. Presumably will also be paying for food, trips etc too as part of the "spending money"

She's doing a nice thing by using the money EARMARKED FOR TRAVEL to treat her friends to slightly nicer hotels (which as parents you should be glad of as it should be a bit safer too). She clearly will have plenty left if she has solo travel plans later as well.

Sizeable probably means she has already sectioned some off for uni fees/housing/savings.

She's 18, wanting to have fun with her friends and enjoy the money she inherited under awful circumstances!

Travelling with friends, however, can put a lot of strain on a friendship. You suddenly discover all the differences you have on things like food preferences, how you time your day, visits you prioritise etc. It can work, it can not.

My advice is make sure he has enough money to fly back early if things go wrong and to cover a room for a night if needed. Also let him know he can call you at any time and, if you can, let him know you will sub him some money for return flights etc if something terrible happens.

NineofPopes · 16/07/2024 00:35

Zombie. Or, at the very least the OP’s son is probably already on his extended European trip with his friend.

suburberphobe · 16/07/2024 00:24

perhaps you should put your hand in your pocket!

I agree. No way ever would I let a friend of my child subsidise their holiday.

You are also teaching him it's o.k. to freeload off other people. It never is!

greyrainbows · 16/07/2024 00:04

You sound completely awful with no conscience. Nearly all replies are astounded that you're more worried about your little darling you've totally glossed over them which just cements the type of person you are.

Either he gets a job, and if you're ruling that out (which is a luxury most teens don't have) perhaps you should put your hand in your pocket!

Schoolchoicesucks · 15/07/2024 23:21

I'm not sure it's as clear cut as some pp's are making it out to be.

I do agree with you, OP, that I'd be advising my DS to cut his cloth accordingly. Not necessarily because I think the friend subsidising the trip means they get to call the shots, but because between a group of friends the dynamic can be off if they are not paying their own way, because it's a life lesson in living within (and travelling within) your own means.

If the friend is absolutely stinking rich loaded and subsidising the trip for the friend's won't make the tiniest impact on her inheritance, then I'd be less concerned about DS taking advantage. But if there is a more limited pot that will make a difference to her future life (house deposits, university fees etc etc) then I wouldn't be comfortable with her giving my son a few thousand pounds of hotel costs.

NewName24 · 15/07/2024 23:20

44PumpLane · 13/03/2024 18:59

I'm astounded that your concern around the situation seems to be that you're worried that your son won't have as good an experience if someone else is paying his way!!!

I think my concern would be that a young woman who has lost her parents isn't being given enough parental style advice to not piss all her money away subsidising her mates on a jolly!!!

You should tell him to do what he can afford, or help him with the trip fund if that's something you can afford and want to do.

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YAB incredibly U , as a parent, knowing that this young girl has lost a parent, as is paying for friends' holidays rather than getting advice about investing it for something more tangible in the future Shock

Wow. Just wow.

celadora · 15/07/2024 23:19

LizLooo · 13/03/2024 20:31

Working isn't an option. Not asking for or taking opinion on this. He enjoys his sport he has the rest of his life to work. End of.

He’s a sponger.

celadora · 15/07/2024 23:18

CharmedCult · 13/03/2024 19:18

Having re-read your OP I’m actually quite shocked that your only concern is that the friend might take control and your DS might not enjoy the holiday.

No concerns at all about your son sponging off a vulnerable (wealthy) young woman?

This is what I was thinking.

wellwhatcanisaytothat · 15/07/2024 23:14

ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees · 13/03/2024 19:06

You are worried your son wouldn't have as much fun on a free holiday, than one he paid for himself?

Not concerned about the sponging,just his fun?

Some people really are CFs.

👆🏼👏🏼

ManchesterGirl2 · 15/07/2024 23:04

Do you know whether the friend has someone helping her make good financial decisions?

I don't think it's necessarily a bad choice to spend money earmarked for travel on her friends' accommodation. It depends on her travel budget. She might much prefer travelling a month with friends than two months alone.

WillYouPutYourCoatOn · 14/03/2024 18:01

It's eye opening there are people in the world with such shitty morals that they'd actually feel comfortable posting something as horrendous as this.

I hope OP has "complained" about this to many people in real life so they have the full measure of her and her family.

Scarletttulips · 14/03/2024 14:47

Working isn't an option. Not asking for or taking opinion on this. He enjoys his sport he has the rest of his life to work. End of

He also has the rest of his life to go on holiday and not sponge off friends.

You’re are as cheeky as he is.

NineofPopes · 14/03/2024 07:45

Pippa12 · 13/03/2024 19:52

@NineofPopes I know her parents aren’t alive. I’m sure they didn’t intend on her spending her inheritance on pimping up her friends trip. You resided in somebody’s home, you wasn’t on holiday. Wildly different scenario. Your friend was likely glad of the company. Win win.

The point is people should pay their way.

I spent the best part of two years living for free in a beautiful listed building. He could have charged us rent (it wasn’t just me), but he didn’t. I was much richer than I would otherwise have been, because I didn’t have to pay for student accommodation, and I was able to stay though the vac, sitting on antique furniture, drinking wine from his parents’ cellar. He didn’t pay out extra money from his inheritance for a holiday, no, but he was covering gas and electricity bills for three extra people, and subsidising us for the sake of company, just as the OP’s son’s friend is proposing.

sparepantsandtoothbrush · 14/03/2024 07:00

LizLooo · 13/03/2024 20:04

Thanks,

DS claims she wants to do it as otherwise they all do a worse trip, including her or she goes alone which she doesn't want as she already has lots of solo travel planned for the rest of her gap year. I still think it's a bad idea but I don't know how much extra we could afford to give him if I'm honest.

Well then they do a "worse trip" whatever that means. If he doesn't want to get a job then he'll just have to go on a holiday he CAN afford instead won't he. There's no way I'd let another 18 year old fund my own no matter where that money was coming from. My 18 year old wouldn't accept that in the first place! Little scrounger

angieloumc · 14/03/2024 06:42

CeeceeBloomingdale · 14/03/2024 06:33

You should be more worried about taking advantage of a vulnerable young girl than your son's experience being lessened as a CF. Teach him some morals, he needs to pay his own way or you need to pay for him, not exploit his friend.

Absolutely this. OP, why isn't this your 'concern'?

CeeceeBloomingdale · 14/03/2024 06:33

You should be more worried about taking advantage of a vulnerable young girl than your son's experience being lessened as a CF. Teach him some morals, he needs to pay his own way or you need to pay for him, not exploit his friend.

JPGR · 13/03/2024 21:59

44PumpLane · 13/03/2024 18:59

I'm astounded that your concern around the situation seems to be that you're worried that your son won't have as good an experience if someone else is paying his way!!!

I think my concern would be that a young woman who has lost her parents isn't being given enough parental style advice to not piss all her money away subsidising her mates on a jolly!!!

You should tell him to do what he can afford, or help him with the trip fund if that's something you can afford and want to do.

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saoirse31 · 13/03/2024 21:19

I can't get over that you've no concerns that your ds friend is spending some of her inheritance on your son and others holiday. Surely your first concern should have been for his friend and her welfare and good support , or lack thereof... , not whether her paying might in sone way ruin his holiday...

How could you think this way?

MojoMoon · 13/03/2024 21:11

He is 18.
Leave him to it.

You want to interfere in an adult's plans because you think he might have more fun doing something else?

Really - back off. Yes, if you were worried they were paying for him to do something terribly reckless and risky, then you could say something.

But thinking he might have a better time or that his friend might want to prioritise activities they like is not a reason to get involved in another adult's life.

Maybe he will have a rubbish time. That's ok. It won't kill him. He has the rest of his life ahead of him to learn how to plan a trip he enjoys
On the other hand, he might have brilliant time!

WillYouPutYourCoatOn · 13/03/2024 21:06

dreadisabaddog · 13/03/2024 21:01

Good lord. Can't have a job because with his exams it would be like him working full time, can't get a job because of his non negotiable sport. COULD sponge off a deceased child but what if he didn't get his own way on the trip and not enjoy it. Are you seriously for real OP?

It's vile. Absolutely vile.

It's genuinely one of the worst things I've read on here.