To think most make up is a waste of time?

I don't wear a scrap of makeup, but I still voted YABU. I imagine women wear makeup to increase their confidence, feel good about themselves etc, and moreover because they just want to. Who am I to decide what is a waste of anyone else's time? 🤷‍♀️

I use pretty basic low price make up, and spend about 5 minutes on a morning doing my face before school run and work, and it makes me feel a million times better about myself. I look 'natural' I think, nothing dramatic, and it just gives me a bit of colour in my face so I don't look washed out. I probably don't look noticeably different, but to me, I feel better and therefore more confident, which in turn makes me look better.

...is a really ugly reflection looking back at you, stonehill, with such contempt and judgement for people who think differently to you, must be some deep seated self issues there to project onto others. Awful

Fine, do it then, but understand what many other people see when they look at it

And it's not for anyone else but me. I like the look of it, I like the feel of it.

@Stonehill You are so full of shit 😂

I prefer how I look with it on. It doesn't take hours, it takes about 7 minutes. I can take longer and enjoy doing that sometimes, but the basics are hardly time-consuming.

And no, I don't walk around with a mirror. But I do feel my face looks better, before I walk out the door. I look less tired when I glance in the mirror in the bathroom when I go to the loo. I am walking around knowing that my blemishes are covered, my dark circles are toned down a bit, and my eyes are a bit darker and therefore look better - to me.

I can assure you I do it for myself, because I do it every day unless I'm ill. Maternity leave and lockdown taught me that. I used to always have my nails painted, but that was for other people because I never bother now unless I'm going out. Make up is for me.

No. It's not. You're completely ignoring what I and loads of other pp have said so ill leave it there 😂

Absolutely. I fully accept this, but I still, rightly or wrongly, automatically assume people that wear excessive make up have self esteem issues.

Personally I don’t wear makeup. I’m confident in my own skin. I appreciate though that other people enjoy make up like I enjoy bold coloured clothes.

It doesn't take that long and if it did, who cares? They enjoy it. I'm sure you do things others would deem a waste of life.
But there's no point in this petty shit, you're not a nice person trying to bring others down. Check yourself.

@Stonehill Do you spend money on nice clothes?

I enjoy it. It only takes me 15 mins to do a full face with eyelashes etc. I love the look for me. It's not expensive. I don't care what others do.

your feelings are valid, if you like doing it, then do it, BUT no way do you look 100s of times better with it on. You look 100s of times faker. We have been conditioned to expect women to cover their faces with this doll like mask, and it is NOT a better look at all - just a more conventionally acceptable one.

women look 100s of times better with their natural face, not their mask.

With make up on, they look like they are ashamed to show their real selves.
They look like they are entirely subservient.
They look like their only priority is to kowtow to the patriarchy.
They look like they are prepared to give all their money to multinational con artists. They look like they think their time is best spent conforming to what men expect

None of this looks good.

No @WandaWonder but I know it's on my face because I put it there 🤨

The day we moved house, I didn't bother with make-up for the first time in years. A colleague saw me in the street and asked me if I was unwell. I won't make that mistake again.

Can you see your make up when you walk around without a mirror?

I haven't wore make up daily for a few years. I do get lash extensions though which give me confidence so I think that's the reason why. This thread has made me want to do make up again! Shopping spree needed

It takes me in total about 5 minutes to get my face and hair ready for work. A bit of foundation, concealer, mascara & lipstick then I brush my hair into a clip. I look a hell lot better than if I just washed my face and brushed my hair and left it down without washing it.

I take longer at the weekend or on nights out but I do like to make an effort with hair, face & clothes.

No but make up is for other people looking at the person wearing it

I can say I wear comfortable underwear for me because no one else sees it or wearing a watch, apart from husband, but make up is only seen by other people

Because they want to?

Personally I don't wear make up every day because I'm too lazy; plus I'm disabled so don't go much further than the school run so I don't see the point of putting make up on to sit at home.

However, on the occasions that I do go out, I will take 2 hours and do a full face. Foundation, concealer, contour, blusher, highlighter, false lashes.. the lot. I love how I look with it on, so I enjoy taking that time to get myself ready. I spend a small fortune and my dressing table is full of products & skincare.

I also get my false nails done every 2 weeks, love a bit of fake tan, get my hair done properly every 6-8 weeks, have facials.. it's nice to take that time to pamper yourself if you really enjoy it.

If it's not for you then fine, but other people's choice to do that stuff isn't really something to question.

No, I was presenting the other side of how your post read, that's all. But I'm glad you accept people can love themselves and still enjoy make up

But you're ignoring the many people on here who say it boosts their confidence, makes them feel in control, is a pleasant and creative hobby.

I don't wear it for other people, fuck that.

To you. As this thread and plenty of others have laid out, it's about how it makes someone FEEL not about looking at themselves all the time.

oh I think women are perfectly capable of having high self esteem and wear makeup.
The way you phrased your previous post with words such as thinking they are “worth SO much” that they were “worth being decorated and adorned”, suggested a rather narcissistic approach - that they are worth it and others don’t/ aren’t as deserving as them

The idea of doing something to yourself that only others can see unless you are constantly looking in a mirror is for other people

The person wearing it doesn't see it so how can it be for them only?

I don't care who wears it but the idea of 'I am a women and I have no choice but to wear makeup it is forced on me' is ridiculous