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To think this woman shouldn’t have interfered in the restaurant?

407 replies

Goldenrainbows · 10/03/2024 07:16

We are away at the moment and went to eat last night in a family pub with an indoor play area which seemed to get my ds (3) a bit hyper. He’s normally really good in restaurants but was admittedly being really silly and swinging back on his chair and running off and not eating. I was doing my best to deal with it.

It really wasn’t helped by a woman sitting at the table behind us who kept interfering and shrieking ‘he’ll fall!’ every time he was swinging on his chair and making comments about him and us. I don’t think it was coming from a bad place but AIBU in thinking it really wasn’t appropriate? It was stressful and meant we couldn’t deal with DS properly as she was taking our attention. (By the way ds was far from the only badly behaved child there.)

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Dotty2dot · 11/03/2024 21:13

Some right dicks on this thread.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 11/03/2024 21:11

Verv · 11/03/2024 16:06

Woman speaking up about little shit running riot ruins parents plan to completely ignore it.

More news at 10.

🤣

Zone2NorthLondon · 11/03/2024 21:10

Poundland Freud ⬅️Sweet Christ! That’s funny
I'm going to shameless steal that little gem

JuJuHeyHey · 11/03/2024 21:09

Goldenrainbows · 10/03/2024 07:29

We really didn’t ruin her meal. She had angled her chair so that she was sat sideways and looking at us. If she had sat properly (for want of a better word) she wouldn’t have known he was there. He was playing up but not to the extent it would have disturbed anybody else, the chairs weren’t so close together him swinging back got in anyone else’s way.

The thing is, there is nothing more distracting and annoying than disruption behind you. Be it in a cinema, restaurant, whatever, if someone is fidgeting or being noisy behind you when you can't see them it's 10x more annoying than if you can see them and keep an eye on them. I guess it's because your back feels vulnerable if you don't know if someone is going to hit you from behind.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 11/03/2024 21:09

Infinityandbeyondx · 11/03/2024 13:53

Omg these replies are frustrating. Have people any idea what its like to parent a 3 year old? Mine is wonderfully well behaved 95% of the time but like any other 3 year old he has his moments. You are away and have chosen to eat at a family restaurant with a play centre, if other diners don't want to be bothered by children then they should choose a different restaurant without a bloody play centre perhaps?? As long as you were dealing with it you've done nothing wrong and I'd find the woman's behaviour and comments really unhelpful and unnecessary. Parenting young children is stressful enough without dealing with people like that aswell! As a mother of 2 small children I've often found myself avoiding places for fear of my children 'playing up' or 'bothering' others which has led to me being quite isolated at times. Kids will be kids and I've yet to meet a young child who is well-behaved 100% of the time. You're also away so usual routines have gone out the window which is bound to impact your little one in some way. Hope you enjoy the rest of your time and don't encounter this woman again!

"As long as you were dealing with it"

key words

Flozle · 11/03/2024 20:59

IHateWasps · 10/03/2024 07:50

All that anxiety probably comes from a place in her past - one where she wasn’t allowed to be a normal three year old.

Oh hark at Poundland Freud!

😆😆

Flozle · 11/03/2024 20:57

Goldenrainbows · 10/03/2024 07:29

We really didn’t ruin her meal. She had angled her chair so that she was sat sideways and looking at us. If she had sat properly (for want of a better word) she wouldn’t have known he was there. He was playing up but not to the extent it would have disturbed anybody else, the chairs weren’t so close together him swinging back got in anyone else’s way.

You don't know how she was feeling, so you don't know if you did or didn't ruin her evening.

Sulley2222 · 11/03/2024 20:52

Very situation dependent but if this had happened to me I would have politely but firmly asked the lady to please keep out of it and you'll be able to deal with his behaviour much more effectively.
Kids can be unpredictable and us parents don't always act perfectly when we are under pressure and feeling under the spotlight.

Fruitystones · 11/03/2024 20:52

You're both being unreasonable. She shouldn't be commenting pointless statements.

But you're also unreasonable because a child friendly restaurant with a play area is still a restaurant. Running around the seating area is a hazard to staff and your child. The play area is for playing, the seating area is for sitting. You'd be the first to complain if your son bumped into a staff member and they spilt hot soup or something on him🤷🏽‍♀️.

DisabledDemon · 11/03/2024 20:39

Whycantiwinmillionsandsquillions · 10/03/2024 07:41

Children should not be running round in restaurants.
Why are peopke taking children into restaurants unless they are specifically aimed at children, such as Wacky Warehouse types?
I can understand sitting in areas deemed specifically for families but not anywhere else.
Its the same with pubs.
They are not places for children.
It’s 100% the parents fault if he gets hurt.

Exactly. My mother would not take me to restaurants until I had reached the age where she could be sure that I would behave myself. As a result, when I was finally allowed to go, I regarded it as a tremendous treat and felt very grown up - and I wouldn't have thought of acting out in case I lost the privilege.

Shootin · 11/03/2024 20:06

PurplGirl · 11/03/2024 16:19

Oh my goodness, people are so judgy! It’s a family pub with an indoor play area. Anyone choosing to eat here in the daytime either has little kids or is insane. The other diner should not have been commenting or interfering, no. Our kids all have bad days/moments. You did your best and it was a tricky day. Ignore the ‘perfect’ parents in here and chalk it up to experience.

Totally agree. 👋👋👋👋👋

WandaWonder · 11/03/2024 20:03

Unicornhat · 11/03/2024 19:32

Wow I think you're getting some really mean responses here Op. I'm curious as to how many currently have a 3 year old. Certainly not the ones who so helpfully made the groundbreaking suggestion that you simply tell him to stop! Yes because 3 year old are so rational...
I think the other person should have kept quiet and I'm sure you were doing your best, children can't learn how to behave when they're out if they're not given the opportunity, everyone has to start by learning somewhere

Our child sat down at 3 or was walked to the play area and they played there, if they ran around or was not sat down we left

They learn how to behave by the parents before they cause trouble not after, and I am saying this not at the op just normally

OhcantthInkofaname · 11/03/2024 19:57

So your child was playing in the eating area instead of the play area. You're unreasonable.

Unicornhat · 11/03/2024 19:32

Wow I think you're getting some really mean responses here Op. I'm curious as to how many currently have a 3 year old. Certainly not the ones who so helpfully made the groundbreaking suggestion that you simply tell him to stop! Yes because 3 year old are so rational...
I think the other person should have kept quiet and I'm sure you were doing your best, children can't learn how to behave when they're out if they're not given the opportunity, everyone has to start by learning somewhere

OldPerson · 11/03/2024 19:29

Yeah. YABU. Your DS was a nightmare on a night out. You love him. No one else did on that night. You weren't dealing with your son. If you were able to deal with him, you would have been seen to be in control or operating a strategy. But him swinging back and forth on a chair? Let him do that at home where he can crack his head open without complaint and then you can peacefully take him to hospital.

Manthide · 11/03/2024 19:28

Mylovelygreendress · 10/03/2024 08:28

Was there another adult with you ? Sounds like you were on your own with a child but you keep saying “ we”.
I am asking as a few weeks ago DH and I were having lunch in a child friendly place ( so we expected some noise) but there was a child who kept getting up , running around , bumping into people and chairs and generally being a pain . Only the mother was trying to stop the child while the father sat and ate his lunch ! The child then bumped into a waitress , stuff got spilled and the mother shouted at the waitress ! The father still sat 🤷‍♀️

My ex dh also expected me to do all the parenting while he slept, ate, watched TV etc. Thankfully my 4dc only needed me to look at them in a certain way and they behaved. No shouting, smacking or bribery required.

Islandgirl68 · 11/03/2024 19:13

Sounds like she ruined her own meal. What did she expect in a family restaurant with a soft play. Maybe if she wasn't interfering and screeching, maybe yorr wee boy would have been calmer.

HauntedPencil · 11/03/2024 19:04

You clearly were to blame. What you should have done is take duct tape and taped him to the chair and floor so not to ruin the lovely quiet meal everyone decided to go to in prime time at a combi pub and soft play. I often go to such establishments for a tranquil meal. YOU WOULD HAVE RUINED MY DAY

puzzledout · 11/03/2024 18:53

@pictoosh I'm sorry 🤦‍♀️!!

I missed it!

I've got a cold, so that's my defence for being stupid!

As you were!

Pineapples198 · 11/03/2024 18:52

Having kids is hard. It is very frustrating when your or friends are sitting chatting eating their meal and you need to get up and deal with your kids. I get it. However. As soon as my kid runs off in a restaurant he would be grabbed and unceremoniously plonked on my knee. There he would stay until he can show me he’s calm enough for another chance. Same with the chair swinging. I’ve had more years of this than most as my nearly 9 year old is autistic and has adhd and can still act like a toddler. If he is restless, excitable or overwhelmed I take him outside for a walk / play. If he is noisy and disturbing other people I take him outside too. There is no excuse for a child running around in a restaurant. You should’ve grabbed him and restrained him.
I’ve had many meals where I didn’t eat or ate cold food because of this, but sadly it needs to be done. You can’t remain in your seat eating and saying not to do something if the child isn’t listening.
as a parent myself it still annoys me when other peoples children don’t behave. I have to deal with my own children, I don’t need to listen to or put up with other peoples kids shrieking or charging about as well.

pictoosh · 11/03/2024 18:51

puzzledout · 11/03/2024 18:31

NO IT WON'T!

Eat your meal and look the other way!

Are you the sort of person who judges breast feeding mothers, moaning that you could see some flesh whilst staring at the woman feeding.

Look away, ignore, let the parent deal with it.

I was being sarcastic.
I agree with you.

Suitsyousir15 · 11/03/2024 18:49

Americano75 · 11/03/2024 06:28

Except if I go to a family friendly restaurant I expect to see the odd child going off on one. If I go to a more upmarket establishment I would not. That's basic common sense.

This. I cannot believe the amount of harsh comments here! The child is 3 years old! If I wanted a peaceful meal out, I certainly wouldn't go to a restaurant with an indoor play area. 🤦‍♀️

buzzlightyearsaway · 11/03/2024 18:49

I feel for you. Ive had some shitty meals out with a small Child. It’s embarrassing and stressful

it was a pub with play area so surely other diners are expecting small kids to be playing up

she shouldn’t have interfered

Toptops · 11/03/2024 18:35

I don't think the woman was at fault. Your child and his antics caught her attention and she commented on it.
You must parent your child and if they're past that, from tiredness or whatever, you need to remove them as they spoil others' meals.

puzzledout · 11/03/2024 18:31

pictoosh · 11/03/2024 17:11

But, but, it's a child friendly area with a soft play space?!

NO. The soft play is a ruse. No one expects to put up with excited children. A child swinging on their chair will RUIN YOUR MEAL, as any of these fine folks will tell you.

NO IT WON'T!

Eat your meal and look the other way!

Are you the sort of person who judges breast feeding mothers, moaning that you could see some flesh whilst staring at the woman feeding.

Look away, ignore, let the parent deal with it.

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