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To think this woman shouldn’t have interfered in the restaurant?

407 replies

Goldenrainbows · 10/03/2024 07:16

We are away at the moment and went to eat last night in a family pub with an indoor play area which seemed to get my ds (3) a bit hyper. He’s normally really good in restaurants but was admittedly being really silly and swinging back on his chair and running off and not eating. I was doing my best to deal with it.

It really wasn’t helped by a woman sitting at the table behind us who kept interfering and shrieking ‘he’ll fall!’ every time he was swinging on his chair and making comments about him and us. I don’t think it was coming from a bad place but AIBU in thinking it really wasn’t appropriate? It was stressful and meant we couldn’t deal with DS properly as she was taking our attention. (By the way ds was far from the only badly behaved child there.)

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WandaWonder · 10/03/2024 08:02

Well if your child was parented and not 'oh they are 3 they are allowed to run riot it is normal' then she wouldn't need to have commented

It's simple really

DitheringBlidiot · 10/03/2024 08:02

"He was listening to me but when she was giving him attention it fed that so he was more inclined to be silly."

So it's her fault that your child was disruptive and "silly"?

I don't know why you didn't just leave or take him outside, sounds very fraught for everyone.

Goldenrainbows · 10/03/2024 08:01

LivingColour · 10/03/2024 07:59

Gently OP, what are you hoping to get from this thread?

You’ve seen the vast majority of people’s views and instead of accepting them and perhaps reflecting on the situation and how it could have been handled better and avoided in future, you are coming across as defensive.… if you didn’t want other people’s views and it appears you don’t, then why ask?

There’s no intent to be defensive. I’ve just tried to explain what happened as while I accept we were obviously in the wrong I am a bit baffled that it’s okay to behave as she did. It really wasn’t helpful. And comments like ‘he ruined her meal’ just aren’t true at all.

But i do accept we shouldn’t have taken DS, as I can’t control him at all so we reliant on his cooperation which obviously wasn’t happening.

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Awumminnscotland · 10/03/2024 08:01

Spotty8 · 10/03/2024 07:49

Play areas hype children up, though. Of course they’re going to be bouncier than usual. If the pub wanted to encourage families, but quietly, they’d provide colouring in.

Besides the Op said she was sitting right next to the play area. So it sounds like the child was running from it to the table and back again between bites. What three year old wouldn’t want to do that?

I agree that's what a child would want to do. But the Op said her son was swinging on a chair and not eating. The chair swinging was likely alarming and sounds dangerous. In this situation with a hyped up 3 yr old not interested in eating I'd have cut my losses and let them not eat and just play in the play area. She said she was right next to it so that sounds ideal. In my thinking play areas are so the parents can eat in peace (as if!) Expecting him to sit and eat next to a fun place was probably a non starter. Not managing the chair swinging was a mistake in my humble opinion.

LivingColour · 10/03/2024 07:59

Gently OP, what are you hoping to get from this thread?

You’ve seen the vast majority of people’s views and instead of accepting them and perhaps reflecting on the situation and how it could have been handled better and avoided in future, you are coming across as defensive.… if you didn’t want other people’s views and it appears you don’t, then why ask?

Fraaahnces · 10/03/2024 07:59

I would have simply told her that you are trying to deal with it and would be much more successful if she turned around and focused on her own meal and left you to it.

As for kids being “just well, kids…”
Nobody can afford for this in a society where people aggressively defend their kid’s right to behave how they like and then turn around and sue the restaurant when their precious little angel knocks into wait staff carrying hot food and burns their special little self.

RunningThroughMyHead · 10/03/2024 07:58

OP, you don't seem to be actively listening. You're reading people's responses and responding defensively.

Was this really the woman's problem? Was SHE the issue? Of course not.

Your 3 year old was being a normal 3 year old and not sitting still. He was swinging on his chair and running about. He's just not ready to be eating in a restaurant. I have a 3 year old too and we don't eat out now. We used to when she was better behaved but she's a boisterous headstrong toddler who doesn't gel with restaurants. When she's older, we'll be able to eat out. For now we stick to home, family or fast food/cafe style venues.

If you have children you have to adapt your lifestyle. It's not up to others to move or accept children being noisy or disruptive. And it's very off-putting watching a 3 year old balance on the edge of their chair. I know it's not easy and not ideal, but that's part of parenting.

Yabu.

Goldenrainbows · 10/03/2024 07:56

Ncncncworkywork · 10/03/2024 07:55

Saying stop? What else did you do to stop your child ruining the atmosphere for everyone?

He really wasn’t doing this.

If she hadn’t been turned round to look at us, no one else would even have noticed.

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sonjadog · 10/03/2024 07:56

Chair swinging - you put your arm across the back and hold the chair down so he can’t swing. And that’s the job done, surely? Why couldn’t you stop that instantly?

Sirzy · 10/03/2024 07:56

Goldenrainbows · 10/03/2024 07:53

I did deal with it but then it would happen again. So he would swing on his chair, I would say to stop and she’d start squealing and commenting, he’d start again a few minutes later. Something like chair swinging isn’t like they stop once and then never do again, unfortunately.

You keep hold of the chair so he can’t swing.

you take him out.

at 3 you put him in a high chair if needed!

what you don’t do it let him repeat the behaviour constantly and just ask him not to when that isn’t working.

Goldenrainbows · 10/03/2024 07:56

I’m not trying to be defensive, just trying to explain what happened. I agree he should not have been running off, but it was made harder not easier by her interference. He was literally running into a play area we were next to not all round the restaurant.

DS doesn’t always recognise hunger or other feelings, you do need to prompt him or he doesn’t really eat.

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Ncncncworkywork · 10/03/2024 07:55

Goldenrainbows · 10/03/2024 07:53

I did deal with it but then it would happen again. So he would swing on his chair, I would say to stop and she’d start squealing and commenting, he’d start again a few minutes later. Something like chair swinging isn’t like they stop once and then never do again, unfortunately.

Saying stop? What else did you do to stop your child ruining the atmosphere for everyone?

ThePriceIsWright · 10/03/2024 07:55

I wouldn't want my evening meal ruined by kids running about but then again I would not ever go out for an evening meal in a place with a play area cos that's what happens!! Over reaction on her part

ZebraD · 10/03/2024 07:54

You said he was running off and not eating but that he was hungry. You should have ignored the woman if he was running off and dealt with him. It’s dangerous and poor waiters/waitresses are trying to deliver food around your wild son?! No good asking a question and getting defensive. Have your kid behave or don’t go.

Ncncncworkywork · 10/03/2024 07:53

Control your kid

Goldenrainbows · 10/03/2024 07:53

Sirzy · 10/03/2024 07:50

I don’t get this. Ignore her and parent your child.

if you had dealt with it she would have had nothing to comment on.

I did deal with it but then it would happen again. So he would swing on his chair, I would say to stop and she’d start squealing and commenting, he’d start again a few minutes later. Something like chair swinging isn’t like they stop once and then never do again, unfortunately.

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shoppingshamed · 10/03/2024 07:52

I don't understand the *dealing with" it part, how did the chair swinging happen multiple times, that's not dealing with anything and why would you need to engage with the woman

Remove child from table, ignore woman - job done, you made a situation where there didn't need to be one

Goldenrainbows · 10/03/2024 07:51

Hellocatshome · 10/03/2024 07:48

Surely if you are sat right next to the play area it is so your child can play whilst you eat? No amount of chicken nuggets and chips is going to be more fun than the play area. I would have just let him play and eat something later.

We did but there did come a point where he had to eat something. I think one of the problems was actually that he was hungry but over excited and got giddy as a result.

He was listening to me but when she was giving him attention it fed that so he was more inclined to be silly.

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Sirzy · 10/03/2024 07:50

Goldenrainbows · 10/03/2024 07:44

I agree children should absolutely not be running round in restaurants but stopping him doing this was made harder by her as she kept talking so my attention would be diverted by her and then ds would try to run off (to the play area we were next to, he wasn’t just randomly doing laps.)

I don’t get this. Ignore her and parent your child.

if you had dealt with it she would have had nothing to comment on.

IHateWasps · 10/03/2024 07:50

All that anxiety probably comes from a place in her past - one where she wasn’t allowed to be a normal three year old.

Oh hark at Poundland Freud!

Spotty8 · 10/03/2024 07:49

Awumminnscotland · 10/03/2024 07:45

It seems to be common to think that if there's a child's play area in a pub or restaurant then it's a 'child centred' place where children being tired,bored or over excited and the resultant behaviour is seen as not having to be managed to the normal level of expectation.

Play areas hype children up, though. Of course they’re going to be bouncier than usual. If the pub wanted to encourage families, but quietly, they’d provide colouring in.

Besides the Op said she was sitting right next to the play area. So it sounds like the child was running from it to the table and back again between bites. What three year old wouldn’t want to do that?

Hellocatshome · 10/03/2024 07:48

Goldenrainbows · 10/03/2024 07:44

I agree children should absolutely not be running round in restaurants but stopping him doing this was made harder by her as she kept talking so my attention would be diverted by her and then ds would try to run off (to the play area we were next to, he wasn’t just randomly doing laps.)

Surely if you are sat right next to the play area it is so your child can play whilst you eat? No amount of chicken nuggets and chips is going to be more fun than the play area. I would have just let him play and eat something later.

FiveShelties · 10/03/2024 07:47

Goldenrainbows · 10/03/2024 07:44

I agree children should absolutely not be running round in restaurants but stopping him doing this was made harder by her as she kept talking so my attention would be diverted by her and then ds would try to run off (to the play area we were next to, he wasn’t just randomly doing laps.)

I am surprised you were distracted by her when you were trying to stop your child from running around and swinging on chairs - in fact I am amazed you even noticed her.

betterangels · 10/03/2024 07:47

Username947531 · 10/03/2024 07:18

I feel for the poor woman trying to enjoy her meal. You should have taken your child straight out and not allowed him to be 'silly'. Parenting fail on your behalf I'm afraid.

Absolutely this.

Hardbackwriter · 10/03/2024 07:47

She was being passive aggressive about it, which is quite irritating. You're right that her flapping around probably didn't help at all. However, she was right that you needed to be dealing with it right then and there.