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To think this woman shouldn’t have interfered in the restaurant?

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Goldenrainbows · 10/03/2024 07:16

We are away at the moment and went to eat last night in a family pub with an indoor play area which seemed to get my ds (3) a bit hyper. He’s normally really good in restaurants but was admittedly being really silly and swinging back on his chair and running off and not eating. I was doing my best to deal with it.

It really wasn’t helped by a woman sitting at the table behind us who kept interfering and shrieking ‘he’ll fall!’ every time he was swinging on his chair and making comments about him and us. I don’t think it was coming from a bad place but AIBU in thinking it really wasn’t appropriate? It was stressful and meant we couldn’t deal with DS properly as she was taking our attention. (By the way ds was far from the only badly behaved child there.)

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notacooldad · 01/08/2024 15:54

Old thread though so presumably sorted a long time ago now.
Indeed, but I bet you can go into many restaurants up and down the country tonight and there will be repeats of this behavior and the parents think that other people are the problem.

notacooldad · 01/08/2024 15:53

I feel for the poor woman trying to enjoy her meal. You should have taken your child straight out and not allowed him to be 'silly'. Parenting fail on your behalf I'm afraid. I agree with this.

By the way ds was far from the only badly behaved child there.)
So there were more ineffective parents out. However it was yours that was directly behind her. It was yours causing an issue and it was yours that wasn't disciplined. The other badly behaved children are of no consequence to you.

lemonmeringueno3 · 01/08/2024 15:45

It sounds as if she was incredulous that he was in a potentially dangerous situation without a parent taking effective control of the situation.

Old thread though so presumably sorted a long time ago now.

Nanny0gg · 01/08/2024 13:27

Goldenrainbows · 10/03/2024 07:53

I did deal with it but then it would happen again. So he would swing on his chair, I would say to stop and she’d start squealing and commenting, he’d start again a few minutes later. Something like chair swinging isn’t like they stop once and then never do again, unfortunately.

So you take them outside...

muggletops · 01/08/2024 13:06

I didn't mind when other people told my DS off, he would listen to them more than me sometimes! Or I would loud whisper to him "that man/woman over there will tell you off you don't behave" (a sinister loud whisper in the ear from my mum always did the trick) still makes me shiver at the thought :-)

Balloonhearts · 24/03/2024 12:19

I'm not sure why anyone can't control a 3 year old tbh?

Just get up, grab him by the arm and march him outside, carry him if necessary.

Hold onto him firmly if there is a road and tell him very sternly that he needs to sit down quietly without swinging on the chairs and eat his dinner otherwise you will take him home and he won't be allowed to come back here as he can't behave. Then follow through.

Every parent has had to leave an event midway through at some point due to badly behaving children. It's just a hazard of the job.

Don't waste your time on wishy washy parenting telling him over and over to stop. He isn't going to. He knows you won't do anything if he doesn't.

You need to be more strict. My kids don't do that because they know damn well that I only say things once. They get one warning. Stop doing it or they go home. They do it again, I get up and physically remove them and we go home. They might scream the whole way to the car, that's fine. Let them. They will remember next time that if they don't make good behaviour choices, the choice gets removed.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 24/03/2024 12:13

@Yalta

well as the meal was 2 weeks ago yesterday, and the Op never came back to the thread since the day/evening she wrote it ( 2 weeks ago today ) - we will never know...

Yalta · 24/03/2024 11:57

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 15/03/2024 19:19

Nowhere in the OP's post does s/he say that the woman did or did not have children with her at her table...

Given how this woman had moved her chair so she could concentrate on someone else’s children I don’t think she had children with her
If she had then her dc must have felt completely ignored

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 15/03/2024 19:19

Nowhere in the OP's post does s/he say that the woman did or did not have children with her at her table...

Jeannie88 · 15/03/2024 17:37

When our DC acted up at that age, and it was a lot, we were very on the ball the moment it started. We woukd take it in turns to take outside and eat, wasn't ideal but wouldn't dream of allowing poor behaviour to spoil for others. It was hard work and sometimes we would leave the cafe early or not even order a meal. Also in other places, usually me on my own, I would have to cut short a day out with family and friends, it wasn't easy at all.

pineapplecrushed · 12/03/2024 23:09

the replies here lol, if I wanted a child-free experience I wouldn't go to a pub with soft play ffs. She was being unreasonable and should have butted out.

pictoosh · 12/03/2024 17:07

This thread is ridiculous.

Donsyb · 12/03/2024 11:04

If your child gets hyper because there is a play area then I suggest you don’t take your child to a restaurant with a play area in future. If he behaves well in normal restaurants, stick to those until he can behave.

T1Dmama · 12/03/2024 10:58

Did you at any point politely suggest to the woman that she turn round and stop commenting? I’d have had to say something to her. Even if that was a ‘Yes, thank you but your input isn’t wanted/needed!”

Also I don’t think parenting from the chair is adequate, you or your husband should’ve gone after him when he ran off, returned him to the table and told him off. Maybe sit him so one adult is either side of him so he couldn’t just run off, and be ready to grab his arm should he try. Also sat each side of him you both could’ve stopped him f tipping chair, I’d have sat with my foot on the ring or hand on the back of the chair so he couldn’t tip it, it sounds like you’d both eaten and paid so I’d have taken his food home and fed him there.

MrsScarecrow · 12/03/2024 09:42

So other children were not behaving so that makes it ok? I feel for the woman.Having sat in a restaurant and watched a 2-3 year old wander unsupervised, finally leaving the restaurant by the main door. People from 3 other tables rushed to rescue her from the busy main road. Parents and friends too busy enjoying themselves to keep a watch on her. No thanks was offered, just grabbed the child and left - had finished their meal. They had had a lovely peaceful time. No regard for others anxiously keeping a watch on their offspring.

puzzledout · 12/03/2024 09:00

JRM17 · 11/03/2024 23:43

Why would you have stayed and ruined other people's evenings instead of taking your ferral child out of the restaurant. My DS is 6 now and has never been allowed to behave in such an abhorrent way in a restaurant. It doesn't matter if it was the first time it shouldn't have been allowed to happen. I'm with the other lady except I would have asked you directly why you were ruining my evening by not parenting your child.

I don't think you would! I think it's easy talking nonsense about "abhorrent" (from a 3 year old GrinGrinGrin, how do you cope with real life?) behaviour and you'd say this or that as a keyboard warrior. But actually doing it, is unlikely.

TheLambtonWorm · 12/03/2024 08:43

JRM17 · 11/03/2024 23:43

Why would you have stayed and ruined other people's evenings instead of taking your ferral child out of the restaurant. My DS is 6 now and has never been allowed to behave in such an abhorrent way in a restaurant. It doesn't matter if it was the first time it shouldn't have been allowed to happen. I'm with the other lady except I would have asked you directly why you were ruining my evening by not parenting your child.

Feral, abhorrent? Is this how adults really talk about children, he's a hyper 3 year old with no boundaries not Charles Manson.

Sulley2222 · 12/03/2024 08:09

Isthisreasonable · 11/03/2024 22:42

How do you think she can be firm with the lady when she can't be firm with her child?

Because I don't know her and neither do you. Which is why I said what I personally would have done.

timesaretight · 12/03/2024 02:49

Goldenrainbows · 10/03/2024 07:29

We really didn’t ruin her meal. She had angled her chair so that she was sat sideways and looking at us. If she had sat properly (for want of a better word) she wouldn’t have known he was there. He was playing up but not to the extent it would have disturbed anybody else, the chairs weren’t so close together him swinging back got in anyone else’s way.

What absolute rubbish, you need to take some responsibility. You don't let kids run around restaurants, he probably upset lot of people.

JRM17 · 11/03/2024 23:43

Why would you have stayed and ruined other people's evenings instead of taking your ferral child out of the restaurant. My DS is 6 now and has never been allowed to behave in such an abhorrent way in a restaurant. It doesn't matter if it was the first time it shouldn't have been allowed to happen. I'm with the other lady except I would have asked you directly why you were ruining my evening by not parenting your child.

Cissy1962 · 11/03/2024 23:43

Goldenrainbows · 10/03/2024 07:29

We really didn’t ruin her meal. She had angled her chair so that she was sat sideways and looking at us. If she had sat properly (for want of a better word) she wouldn’t have known he was there. He was playing up but not to the extent it would have disturbed anybody else, the chairs weren’t so close together him swinging back got in anyone else’s way.

He shouldn't have been swinging back on his chair though! Sort your kid out, or eat at home !

Isthisreasonable · 11/03/2024 22:42

Sulley2222 · 11/03/2024 20:52

Very situation dependent but if this had happened to me I would have politely but firmly asked the lady to please keep out of it and you'll be able to deal with his behaviour much more effectively.
Kids can be unpredictable and us parents don't always act perfectly when we are under pressure and feeling under the spotlight.

How do you think she can be firm with the lady when she can't be firm with her child?

Sennelier1 · 11/03/2024 22:10

You are most def. not being unreasonable! Right, your child didn't behave as well as you're used too - children are often unpredictable. But being in a restaurant with a play area that other person should've kept to herself and not commented on yóur child. If a person isn't capable of sticking to their own company and minding their own business they shouldn't be out in a child-friendly restaurant.

rooftopbird · 11/03/2024 21:15

How was her 'interrupting' making it harder for you, OP

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 11/03/2024 21:14

puzzledout · 11/03/2024 18:31

NO IT WON'T!

Eat your meal and look the other way!

Are you the sort of person who judges breast feeding mothers, moaning that you could see some flesh whilst staring at the woman feeding.

Look away, ignore, let the parent deal with it.

I don't see the analogy between breastfeeding (✔️ ) and a badly behaved child 🤷

edited: sorry - I see you were being sarcastic