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To be surprised that 65+ is deemed ‘elderly’

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Helfs · 09/03/2024 20:03

Off the back of another thread I wanted to see what the actual definition or classification of ‘elderly’ was and I was very surprised to see it defined as 65+

I always thought 80+ as being elderly so this has really surprised me. Especially looking at those I know around the 65-70 mark, they’re fit, healthy, living their best life and do not scream ‘elderly’ if you looked at them.

Personally I’ve always seen it as;
0-1 baby
1-3 toddler
3-13 child
13-19 - teenager
19-25 young adult
25-40 - adult
40-55 - Middle Aged

55-80 - old
80+ - elderly

So do you think this definition is fair on those who are 65, should the definition not evolve as life expectancies rise?

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SashMontgomery · 12/11/2024 17:16

My dad is 55 so I consider that elderly (just to wind him and his wife up)

SleepQuest33 · 12/11/2024 17:16

Ankor · 12/11/2024 17:03

55 old ??? What is wrong with you? That's when the fun starts again.

This!!
im not 55 yet but not far off!

Dartmoorcheffy · 12/11/2024 17:09

Hahaha.. I'm 55 and still lead a very full active work and social life. I still feel like I'm in my 30s, I certainly don't feel old.

ObieJoyful · 12/11/2024 17:08

I’m 58, I don’t reckon I’ll be elderly until around 86-90.

My dad is 76 and he’s certainly not elderly!

Ankor · 12/11/2024 17:03

55 old ??? What is wrong with you? That's when the fun starts again.

Getitwright · 12/11/2024 14:02

I’m not going to say what my age is, as frankly, the World seems to have gone mad labelling folks. It’s almost as if you cannot exist without someone trying to shove you into one box or another. Since when did conforming to a label suddenly come back into fashion? I grew up in an era when the brave, the mavericks, the want to be different, carved their own path. And it’s been and still is bloody lovely. 😎

Lou7171 · 12/11/2024 13:37

Gallowayan · 12/11/2024 13:23

Your definition of "elderly" tends to get pushed back as you draw closer to it. Its always going to be subjective. Mumsnet is pretty ageist. You will be considered a dotard once you are over 60 on here.

I'm in my 30s and definitely don't think 60s is elderly! Most people are still working well into their 60s. I would say 75+.

I think posters like to be a bit controversial on these kind of threads. I once read that 35 is middle aged on here... nobody in real life actually thinks this.

stayathomer · 12/11/2024 13:34

When I was 40 I went to the doctor about joint pain, he was in his possible late 20s and did a lot of ‘at your age’, when I said it another time to my doctor (late 40s), he laughed and said that was ridiculous 😅 I’d personally call 70s elderly. I hate ‘middle aged’ because to me it’s not a realistic term when you look at upper age ranges which I don’t want to do😅

KimberleyClark · 12/11/2024 13:27

Newsenmum · 12/11/2024 13:25

So you expect to live to 120?

I’m not old is what I’m saying.

Newsenmum · 12/11/2024 13:25

KimberleyClark · 12/11/2024 13:24

I’m 63. I’m late middle aged.

So you expect to live to 120?

KimberleyClark · 12/11/2024 13:24

I’m 63. I’m late middle aged.

Gallowayan · 12/11/2024 13:23

Your definition of "elderly" tends to get pushed back as you draw closer to it. Its always going to be subjective. Mumsnet is pretty ageist. You will be considered a dotard once you are over 60 on here.

Chowtime · 12/11/2024 13:12

EmpressSoleil · 11/03/2024 15:26

Sorry to pick on this poster in particular, but I knew as soon as I opened this thread it would be filled with old people adamant that they are not old! And yes 3 or 4 posts in, there it was. I didn't read any more of the thread as it's so predictable. Lots of "I'm fitter at 60 than most 30yr olds" etc etc. Yes sure you are.

I'm sorry but late 60's is old. You may feel younger in mind and body. But your age is late 60's which is old. I say that as someone in my mid 50's and yes I am firmly middled aged. Yes, I still travel and go to gigs, all sorts. That doesn't change my actual age.

The issue for me is, all these people are saying what they're saying because they are attributing stereotypes to various ages. Oh I'm not old because I'm doing all these things that "old people" don't do.

Your age is your age. You can't change it. So why even bother worrying whether you're classed as middle aged, old or elderly? Just do what you enjoy doing and be happy you're alive! Stop trying to insist "oh but I'm not old", it doesn't matter.

Really lovely post, thank you x

Chowtime · 12/11/2024 13:08

I agree with your list

The problem with mumnet is that they think "being old" or "being called old" is an insult. It's not.

JustBloodyWellSayNo · 12/11/2024 13:04

Medically, 65 is classed as elderly. My GP told me that. I'm 65 and don't give a toss about being described elderly

LeeMoz · 12/11/2024 13:03

@Helfs You can't count the 20 years that you are growing up. Early adulthood starts around 20, so if life expectancy is 80 then middle age is 40 to 60, but it has been extended to 45 to 65 due to many people now living to 90 and the increased potential and life expectancy.

silvergarden · 11/03/2024 23:09

Tahinii · 11/03/2024 09:30

I agree saying “old” isn’t a good descriptor as, clearly, it means different things to different people but comparing it to “gormless” is just silly. 😂 I would describe someone by their hair and clothes and location though. It’s easier to avoid any potential offence.

Oh? So when you wrote this, you were not making a "comment on your posting style nor your individual use of a word"...

Tahinii · 11/03/2024 22:38

silvergarden · 11/03/2024 22:05

I am pointing out that your need to offer me a grade on my comment and correct a word and my usage of it in a phrase - and announce it is silly (complete with a passive-aggressive 😂- is unnecessary and offensive to me.

Go correct someone else's posting style.

To clarify, I didn’t correct you nor comment on your posting style nor your individual use of a word. I disagreed with the sentiment of what you said. I felt the comparison ruined your point which I had agreed with. Anyway, I apologise. It clearly landed far worse than I intended. I’m sorry it came across that way and it was not my intention.
I genuinely didn’t realise and there was no intention to tell you how to post! I definitely overuse the 😂 emoji and it was out of context. Apologies again, I will leave it there as it was not intentional and this is an interesting thread, so I don’t want to derail.

silvergarden · 11/03/2024 22:05

Tahinii · 11/03/2024 14:22

I agree with you, why are you arguing with me?! It was just a comment that your association with age and pejorative descriptions are not equal.

I am pointing out that your need to offer me a grade on my comment and correct a word and my usage of it in a phrase - and announce it is silly (complete with a passive-aggressive 😂- is unnecessary and offensive to me.

Go correct someone else's posting style.

EmpressSoleil · 11/03/2024 19:27

But don't you think that a part of that is that styles have changed. Older women often used to go for those unflattering perms, although I guess they were more popular at the time. Likewise they might wear something like elasticated slacks. Where now we wear joggers or leggings. You need to really study the faces to decide if people genuinely look younger now or if it's more style based. Plus things like botox are more popular now which also somewhat skews perception.

ALongHardWinter · 11/03/2024 18:24

I think 'older' people don't appear to be anywhere near as old as they were maybe 50 or so years ago. I can remember my grandmother,who was 65 when I was 5, looking positively ancient. This was in 1970. I know that when you're a young child,anyone over the age of 20 seems ancient! But my memory of her is backed up by photos of her. She looks more like an 85 year old today might look. By comparison,I know people who are in their mid 60s - mid 70s who still seem remarkably youthful.

CatamaranViper · 11/03/2024 16:00

Old age is a privilege, people should be buzzing they reach it.

SallyWD · 11/03/2024 15:49

Redlarge · 11/03/2024 15:14

Omg it's not. 65 is very very much not middle aged.

Definition of middle aged from the Oxford dictionary:

middle-aged

adjective

(of a person) aged about 45 to 65

Chillin2Day · 11/03/2024 15:46

Some countries have an average life expectancy of 50s eg Lesotho in Africa

Some countries have a higher life expectancy like Japan

Therefore it depends where you live

Until recently UK women state retirement age was 60, now 66 jointly with men

Not everyone reaches old age

EmpressSoleil · 11/03/2024 15:26

Isseywith3witchycats · 09/03/2024 20:07

Im 67 my OH (68) and i go to live rock gigs go round the country in the summer on a large American cruiser motorbike, go to motorbike rallies , club nights and i still work part time i definitely dont consider my self old

Sorry to pick on this poster in particular, but I knew as soon as I opened this thread it would be filled with old people adamant that they are not old! And yes 3 or 4 posts in, there it was. I didn't read any more of the thread as it's so predictable. Lots of "I'm fitter at 60 than most 30yr olds" etc etc. Yes sure you are.

I'm sorry but late 60's is old. You may feel younger in mind and body. But your age is late 60's which is old. I say that as someone in my mid 50's and yes I am firmly middled aged. Yes, I still travel and go to gigs, all sorts. That doesn't change my actual age.

The issue for me is, all these people are saying what they're saying because they are attributing stereotypes to various ages. Oh I'm not old because I'm doing all these things that "old people" don't do.

Your age is your age. You can't change it. So why even bother worrying whether you're classed as middle aged, old or elderly? Just do what you enjoy doing and be happy you're alive! Stop trying to insist "oh but I'm not old", it doesn't matter.