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To not stop this activity even though school asked me to?

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StoppingTheClassDueToDetention · 08/03/2024 20:35

DD is 9, Year 5 but at a middle school so it’s more like a secondary school than a primary.

If a child gets 2 lunchtime detentions in a half term, the 3rd detention is after school on a Thursday and a meeting with the parents and form tutor is held.

DD got her 3rd Detention so had to do it after school last night. Meeting for me was today.

School urge parents to backup the detention by taking away out of school activities, phones or other rewards and the form tutor urged me to do this.

DD does 3 activities out of school and I am taking away 2 of them; one is tomorrow and the other Monday after school.

The other one I am reluctant to take away, she has a medical condition that causes pain. Her pain levels are much lower and she’s less likely to need painkillers which cause their own issues (constipation, more exhausted so unable to get through the day and do her normal activities etc) if she does this activity. It’s a physical activity, for this thread we’ll say its Yoga but it’s not that but works in a similar way.

When DD doesn’t do yoga due to her teacher being off or her being ill there is noticeable differences in her pain levels and ability to get through the day without pain killers, it affects her school work because she is more tired due to the painkillers so I’m being called to pick her up etc. Basically unless the teacher is off or she’s ill, she goes to Yoga, I plan holidays around it and try and find classes where we stay if we’re going to be away over the normal class it's that important to keep her doing it and exercising as she just cannot function or be a normal 9yo without.

I told DDs form tutor I would stop the other 2 activities, taken away her phone for the weekend and if she carries on will remove her from the Easter Concert for her Choir activity that she’s been practising for all half term both during Choir sessions and also in the shower every single morning before school. She is really excited to be in this concert as she missed out at Christmas due to the concert time falling during her dads weekend so she didn’t even audition (I use that term loosely, literally anyone who auditions gets a place, it’s just to see whether you get a solo or do chorus/duet etc instead). I will also not let her go to the café after Yoga which is our usual ritual every week.

Her form tutor urged me to rething taking Yoga away as there is a social aspect to it. But the class is 30 mins with little time to chat during it and I can hurry her in and out before and after. Teacher is aware of her medical issues but as she's only been at the school less than a year and they've not seen the effects of her not going I don't think they realise how much it's needed.

I don't agree with punishing her to the point of pain either, that just seems counterproductive and borderline cruel to me.

So AIBU to not stop Yoga?

OP posts:
RAPSMom · 09/03/2024 23:54

Absolutely keep doing the exercises. It’s your daughter’s health. The school is stupid to even suggest it. Duty of care springs to mind…Maybe find a different school.

Crackermuncher · 09/03/2024 23:04

I don’t think detentions are appropriate in yr 5 full stop. Schools are beginning to lose the plot and overstep massively.

Whatkindofworld · 09/03/2024 22:52

I would be looking for an alternative school.

Covermeinsunshine · 09/03/2024 22:45

Stop saying it’s like a secondary school. Your daughter is 9yrs old - what they are doing is not age appropriate for your daughter! I have an 11yr old at a private prep school, definitely considered on the strict side. They have children there to year 8. They wouldn’t dish out a detention for any of those things you’ve listed.

I’d want to know why they’re wasting my time with a meeting over such drivel! I wouldn’t remove any electronics or activities.

Lollingabout · 09/03/2024 22:37

Leonarda89 · 08/03/2024 20:44

I would be removing her from that school. Punishing a 9 year old for forgetting a key or having a drink of water is absolutely ridiculous, and to expect you to further punish her out of school by stopping her doing activities which are of benefit to her learning and well being is cruel and completely goes against everything we know about discipline and child development. To ask you to do something which they already know will lead to physical pain is bordering on child abuse!

Absolutely agree. I’d be pulling my child out of this school too. OP - stand up for your child.

RollOnSpringDays · 09/03/2024 22:33

Your daughter has been punished enough. Can’t believe how heavy handed school is being, I’d consider making a complaint.

Yesyoucant · 09/03/2024 22:28

This school is overbearing and ridiculous. I would not be stopping any activities for small errors such as forgetting a key or having a drink of water.
Let her do yoga, her other two activities and have her phone. The school needs to calm down or I'd be thinking about another school.

ZebraDanios · 09/03/2024 22:26

Merryoldgoat · 09/03/2024 21:51

The number of parents on prior posts though praising this utterly hideous model of education.

The woman is an absolute danger and I think the fact that she can reach the position she has tells how broken education is in this country.

That’s what I was about to say. I think she’s a dangerous loon but I thought MN loved her?

Justontherightsideofnormal · 09/03/2024 22:20

I actually have no words for the pathetic reasons your daughter has received detention for. No words whatsoever.
I would absolutely not be removing any of her extracurricular activities.

ThePenguinIsDrunk · 09/03/2024 22:18

WTAF? The school need to get a fucking grip and a sense of proportion.

BirthdayRainbow · 09/03/2024 22:09

If my child received a detention I would not punish them again. If the detention was justified I'd have a word. If it wasn't I'd tell my child they had to do it but I didn't agree with the school.

Teachers need to remember they aren't their children. They aren't dictators and they don't get a say on anything out of school hours.

Pipeskeepleaking · 09/03/2024 22:05

Year 5!!! She’s mini. This is insane.
you can’t change what happens in school but that sounds like PLENTY already to me.

Illbebythesea · 09/03/2024 22:04

Read through all your posts and I can’t believe a school don’t let children drink water for 2.45
mins a day. Either you’re getting incorrect info, or you’re being dramatic…

mammaCh · 09/03/2024 22:01

Wooooah the reasons for her detention are crazy! That's so minor- she's a kid, she will forget things.
I am quiet honestly shocked that you're even considering taking the yoga away, knowing it will cause her such pain, when she's done so little wrong.

Illbebythesea · 09/03/2024 22:00

Ffs. Use some common sense… the school sound batshit don’t back them up.

CelestiaNoctis · 09/03/2024 21:59

I just read the reasons why and you're as insane as this teacher. Those are literally insane things to punish a child for so extremely. She has a condition on top of that.. wow wow wow. I'm speechless. Don't be surprised if she no contact when she grows up, honestly. You should be backing her up over such little tiny little things, not pushing on her even harder. She's so young too!!

CelestiaNoctis · 09/03/2024 21:57

Why would you stop any of it? That's on her personal time. Unless she's being extremely naughty or hurting someone I don't understand why such an extreme punishment?

ParrotPirouette · 09/03/2024 21:52

ZebraDanios · 09/03/2024 18:22

There is no afternoon breaktime so they're expected to go from 1pm-3.45pm with no drinks. They're not allowed water bottles in class with them or even in their bags to carry around.

Does that mean they can’t go to the loo between 1 and 3:45 either?!

I’m imagining being at work as a fully grown adult and not being able to go to the toilet if I need to. Urgh, why do we do this to our children?

Merryoldgoat · 09/03/2024 21:51

ExAbused · 09/03/2024 21:27

This school has an unhinged lead.

The number of parents on prior posts though praising this utterly hideous model of education.

The woman is an absolute danger and I think the fact that she can reach the position she has tells how broken education is in this country.

TotoroElla · 09/03/2024 21:43

Menapausemum1974 · 09/03/2024 12:19

@StoppingTheClassDueToDetention I’m probably going to be in the minority here but I think this is downright ridiculous 🙈 maybe stop her deserts and teddy at night as well 🤷‍♀️ she been “ punished” already,
would you like to get hauled up at work then get home to a bolocking from your DP about the same thing 🤷‍♀️ I work in the third sector and have supported loads of “ harder to reach kids” not saying there shouldn’t be consequences ( school have already provided them) but a bit of “ ok you’ve messed up let’s draw a line under it and move on” can in my opinion work wonders. When it comes to things impacting on her health however the teacher should butt right out, think they are already well overstepping the mark.

You thought you'd be in the minority???? 🤯

RecklessGoddess · 09/03/2024 21:42

Tell the teacher that you are absolutely not going to do something that will cause your daughter to be in unessecary pain, by cutting something out that eases her pain!!

DanceMumTaxi · 09/03/2024 21:42

As a teacher I think school are being outrageously over the top. The detentions are punishment enough for her ‘crimes’. I don’t think you should punish further, especially at 9 years old. My school is pretty strict but this is another level. Total insanity.

ExAbused · 09/03/2024 21:35

Call in ChildAbuseUK. Children's society's
Ofstead speak to other parents.

Itsreallynotdifficult · 09/03/2024 21:27

Itsreallynotdifficult · 09/03/2024 21:20

School could take a running jump if they think they could dictate how I punish my child outside of school. Regardless of that anyway, Some kids might not do any activities outside school at all. So the ones that do or do more than others are having to lose them and are being punished more than others? Some afterschool activities are for the benefit of wraparound childcare rather than just a fun extra curricular activity. Are those parents supposed to stop that activity and then not work or have to find additional childcare just to cover it? Absolutely impossible for these expectations to be equal for all. Also the fact that one of her activities is a health benefit and not just for fun and they’re expecting it to stop is cruel! Detention for having a drink? Wtaf! Are they joking! We should be encouraging children to drink more water not preventing it! I thought it was 2024 not 1924. These reasons she’s got detention are absolutely bonkers. Fair enough if she’d actually had bad behaviour, but you as a parent then get to decide additional punishment, be that taking away a phone for a weekend or a Nintendo switch etc. but that’s up to you as a parent and these types of punishments are for correcting bad behaviour not the ridiculous things she’s being punished for. Punishments like that don’t correct forgetting a locker key etc. it’s totally disproportionate! She’s not been naughty! So don’t stop any of the activities or even the cafe after yoga! It’s not their business!

Also, we pay for these activities. There’s no way I’m not taking my child and just having that money spent go to waste!

ExAbused · 09/03/2024 21:27

This school has an unhinged lead.

To not stop this activity even though school asked me to?
To not stop this activity even though school asked me to?