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To not stop this activity even though school asked me to?

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StoppingTheClassDueToDetention · 08/03/2024 20:35

DD is 9, Year 5 but at a middle school so it’s more like a secondary school than a primary.

If a child gets 2 lunchtime detentions in a half term, the 3rd detention is after school on a Thursday and a meeting with the parents and form tutor is held.

DD got her 3rd Detention so had to do it after school last night. Meeting for me was today.

School urge parents to backup the detention by taking away out of school activities, phones or other rewards and the form tutor urged me to do this.

DD does 3 activities out of school and I am taking away 2 of them; one is tomorrow and the other Monday after school.

The other one I am reluctant to take away, she has a medical condition that causes pain. Her pain levels are much lower and she’s less likely to need painkillers which cause their own issues (constipation, more exhausted so unable to get through the day and do her normal activities etc) if she does this activity. It’s a physical activity, for this thread we’ll say its Yoga but it’s not that but works in a similar way.

When DD doesn’t do yoga due to her teacher being off or her being ill there is noticeable differences in her pain levels and ability to get through the day without pain killers, it affects her school work because she is more tired due to the painkillers so I’m being called to pick her up etc. Basically unless the teacher is off or she’s ill, she goes to Yoga, I plan holidays around it and try and find classes where we stay if we’re going to be away over the normal class it's that important to keep her doing it and exercising as she just cannot function or be a normal 9yo without.

I told DDs form tutor I would stop the other 2 activities, taken away her phone for the weekend and if she carries on will remove her from the Easter Concert for her Choir activity that she’s been practising for all half term both during Choir sessions and also in the shower every single morning before school. She is really excited to be in this concert as she missed out at Christmas due to the concert time falling during her dads weekend so she didn’t even audition (I use that term loosely, literally anyone who auditions gets a place, it’s just to see whether you get a solo or do chorus/duet etc instead). I will also not let her go to the café after Yoga which is our usual ritual every week.

Her form tutor urged me to rething taking Yoga away as there is a social aspect to it. But the class is 30 mins with little time to chat during it and I can hurry her in and out before and after. Teacher is aware of her medical issues but as she's only been at the school less than a year and they've not seen the effects of her not going I don't think they realise how much it's needed.

I don't agree with punishing her to the point of pain either, that just seems counterproductive and borderline cruel to me.

So AIBU to not stop Yoga?

OP posts:
Cascais · 09/03/2024 01:10

Just take away her phone

Cormoran · 09/03/2024 01:08

For that type of crimes, I wouldn't do any extra out of school punishment.
It wasn't a detention for being abusive, lazy, not doing the work .

I would restore the removed activities and tell DD, the world is full of stupid rules we have to obey, you are not in trouble with me or at home.

TempleOfBloom · 09/03/2024 01:08

What lunatic would stop her participation in choir? Something that requires discipline and hard work, giving your time at the weekend to contribute to a community event?

As for anything else I would just say to her tutor “I take the school rules seriously and will support my daughter to observe them in the way I see fit “

JayJay514 · 09/03/2024 01:06

I genuinely cant believe you are continuing to send your daughter to that school. The whole thing is overbearing, disproportionate and ridiculous and you are an awful advocate for the child for allowing this to happen.

Soontobe60 · 09/03/2024 01:04

StoppingTheClassDueToDetention · 08/03/2024 21:11

I always take the phone off her after school anyway unless it's the night she's going to her dads, so that's not an unusual thing for us so isn't a punishment - I take away as she has a tendancy to just sit on it and play games or text as she's 9. It's literally so I can let her know where to meet me as she comes out of school.

She doesn’t need a phone for this - surely you meet her at the same place every day? And if not, because of parking, just tell her you might have to park up further down the road, or better still park the car up and walk to the gate to meet her.

Soontobe60 · 09/03/2024 01:00

The teacher can suggest all she wants - I hope you didn’t have this discussion in front of your DD.
Going forward, your DD may be better to do a yoga class online that she can do daily and isn’t reliant on a teacher being available. Also, why has a 9 year old for a phone anyway!

LouHey · 09/03/2024 00:59

I think the school is a bit much. The detentions are overkill - kids will forget things and wtf about drinking water outside of break times? For the past 15 years our school kids have had water bottles with the school logo on them... it's encouraged they remain hydrated during class. Isn't that normal in schools these days?

I take it its a really good school otherwise? They sound horrid.

Olliequick · 09/03/2024 00:57

Nah I wouldn’t be told what to do out of school by a teacher. How you chose to punish or not punish things that have happened in school is entirely up to you and I wouldn’t even entertain this.

askmenow · 09/03/2024 00:55

Your daughters health comes before anything a teacher says.
I cant believe you're even asking this.
Frankly I'd have complained to head of year about the form teachers over- reach. and total lack of comprehension about her pupils health needs. Shockingly dictatorial.

BigDogEnergy · 09/03/2024 00:45

Does it have to be a middle school? Can't she just go to a primary school and be a kid?

Anele22 · 09/03/2024 00:45

Please don’t stop any of her activities or the choir. Children need to do these things for their own well-being and development. Madness to cut activities which generally keep children on the straight and narrow anyway.

Firstsimnelcake · 09/03/2024 00:43

I am surprised your poor daughter isn’t a nervous wreck, giving detentions for crap like this to a 9 year old! Seriously? Drinking water and forgetting a key? Well throw me in jail then, I lose my car keys all the time! Usually found in the dog basket or in the fridge.
Of course she shouldn’t miss exercise or her choir performance for this. Unless there is a back story and she is badly behaved (doesn’t sound like it).

Princessfluffy · 09/03/2024 00:40

This sounds bonkers. Misdemeanours are v minor. No way would I be punishing my child at home over this kind of thing. Do you live in North Korea?

Bobandbear · 09/03/2024 00:34

There’s absolutely no way I’d be changing anything outside of school. These are all such minor things that a detention is over the top. I wouldn’t even have considered stopping any out of school activities for these. I’d also be having a strong word with school too about this pressure, the detention is the punishment.

winterplumage · 09/03/2024 00:33

I'd withdraw her from the school as it sounds way beyond insane and disgusting. I'd never allow my child to be subjected to that.

Obviously, I wouldn't withdraw her from any activities or take her phone.

StaunchMomma · 09/03/2024 00:31

The school are asking way too much, IMO.

I agree that it's important that school sanctions are supported at home, they're over-reaching by demanding she lose all activities/privileges at home, especially those that allow her to manage her pain.

It all sounds a bit much, really!

Lindy2 · 09/03/2024 00:30

Your poor daughter.

ClairDeLaLune · 09/03/2024 00:29

StoppingTheClassDueToDetention · 08/03/2024 20:42

@Merryoldgoat Quite strict, they wear blazers and expect perfect uniform.

1 detention was for forgetting her locker key so she couldn't get any of her stuff (they didn't give her a chance to call me to bring it in as a one off I'd do this as I wfh)
1 detention was for being caught drinking out her bottle in the corridor between lessons (drinks only allowed at break and lunchtime)
1 detention for not wearing her houses pin on her tie (it was on her blazer lapel)

What on earth?? Those are tiny infringements. There’s no way I’d even take away one activity or punish her at home in any way for those. Sounds like a military prison not a school.

wanttogetadvice · 09/03/2024 00:29

and I votedUBU as you are allowing the school to bully your child

wanttogetadvice · 09/03/2024 00:27

sorry for the typos and grammatical errors in my post. I am just so furious on your daughter's behalf.

wanttogetadvice · 09/03/2024 00:26

I never say this but just read the reasons for detention and bloodly hell! She is 9 for goodness sake! I have a 9 year old and guess what, their heads are always in the cloud. Mine would live in detention if she starts getting one for everything she forgets. It's school's job to support her and give her tools to eal with forgetfulness but these issues are so ridiculous and reaction to them over the top. Why are you not standing up for your child and letting the school bully her? You will destroy her mental health this way? This has got to be a very strict private school or a public school where they had a history of difficult children. None of the acts she is punished for hurt any one or disrupt hers or others education. Change her school and stand up for her. Do not at any cost cancel any of her activities.

tolerable · 09/03/2024 00:23

SHE is 9. What merits detention?
at 9 -ONE consequence of actions is bad enough-far less telling parents. Expecting you to cube the punishment? id say.nope.you do it your way.
at school.
i deal with at home, sure if her wanna push-you gotta tighten reigns but- what?thats awful

wanttogetadvice · 09/03/2024 00:19

Is this a prison or a school? Why on earth is she being punished by taking her out of school activities away for what she has done in school and is already being punished by getting a detention. The school is controlling and you are nuts for accommodating them. All of this seems excessive, overkill and will not teach her anything. Unless she badly harmed someone, I would not be taking any of these activities away and tell the school to do one.

BlueFlint · 09/03/2024 00:18

Insanity. Why are you going along with any of this? I assumed it was something terribly serious, e.g. vicious bullying. She forgot some stupid pin??

I would not send my child to a school who treated children this way. They're not allowed to drink when the want? How is that healthy? They're not prison inmates!

Lovethistimeofyear · 09/03/2024 00:14

I voted that you are being unreasonable because you are allowing a school to dictate to you.

Far too many consequences - she is your child and it isn’t up to the teacher to tell
you how to discipline your child.

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