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To be furious at my MIL for cleaning our living room

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GelatinousDynamo · 08/03/2024 15:20

My MIL and I do not have the easiest relationship, I find her overbearing and "helpful" in a way that totally irritates me. She does whatever she wants and expects to be thanked for it.

It happened again today- FIL wanted to come over to borrow some tools and look at the garage roof with DH (they live about an hour's drive away). She called DH yesterday that she's coming along and will help clean and iron his shirts (he's in his 40s ffs, he's perfectly capable of ironing his own shirts). DH told her that she's welcome to come over, but she won't be cleaning. What happened? While my husband was outside with FIL and on a work call, she "tidied up" our living room. Ultimately, this means that it looks like a tornado swept through it. NOTHING is where it should be, even the furniture has been moved (eg the armchair for "better afternoon light", apparently).

This is not the first time and we've been turning down her "help" for years. Politely at first, then with a categorical no. She used to listen, but since we got married and bought a house, it's like she doesn't give a shit anymore, just comes over and does what she wants. Examples: last summer, she mowed my wildflower meadow in the front garden, because "you don't want those ugly weeds in front". She knew that it was supposed to stay, but she didn't like it, we would not bend when she complained about it being ugly, so she went and killed it. Just before Christmas, she " organised" our kitchen drawers and cupboards. She has form for ironing my clothes (destroying them in the process). Each and every time she's been told not to beforehand.

Every such incident is followed by a conversation with DH and (sometimes) FIL. Every such conversation ends in tears and with statements like "but I only want to help" and "I didn't want to do anything wrong". If DH is really angry (like when she secretly fed our dog to make him like her), it's "but I just want to feel needed". She then tells her sob story to her brothers, who then call my husband complaining that he's not treating his mother right (we're talking about people in their late 60s).

Today, as I came home from work, she welcomed me with "I hope you're not angry with me". I said nothing. They were already leaving as I came in. I'm fucking FURIOUS. I have better things to do than arrange my living room back to the way it should be. Now she's blasting me with text messages all saying "I hope you're not angry with me" and "I've just tidied up a bit". I've ignored her so far, don't even know what I should answer so it it doesn't turn into a huge drama with her in the leading role of Victim. She still doesn't understand that she did something wrong, it's like talking to a teenager.

OP posts:
Weonlyhavealoanofit · 16/04/2024 12:46

When she asks plaintively ‘have I done something wrong?’
Let your husband say firmly and without hesitation:
Mum give it a rest. No one wants you as a martyr, no one in this house wants you rearranging furniture or treating the house as some kind of extension of your own home. You’re very poor at recognising boundaries, and I don't want to have to repeat this conversation again and if you've something to say, about my home you say it to me and don't whinge on the phone to my brothers.
Stop manipulating people. Stop doing the wrong thing, stop intruding and stop asking ‘what’s wrong’ and then pleading justification when you keep on doing inappropriate things. Enjoy your life with Dad. BTW you have a good life, you are still young, still in good health, maybe you're bored, maybe you're feeling fed up whatever it is, you need to fix it and the solution isn't coming into another married couples home and acting like some mini wife. Ive got a wife and one is enough….
More wine anyone…..

Daffydoll · 16/04/2024 12:45

Love the dog photo 😍

Daffydoll · 16/04/2024 12:44

I would just say no need to talk about this any more. You have agreed not to touch anything in our house and as long as you stick to that everything will be fine. If she tries to talk more just repeat repeat repeat. Good luck!

aLFIESMA · 16/04/2024 12:35

You are a better person than me OP Flowers

Marghogeth · 16/04/2024 12:23

Put some dog cameras up, they don't need to be switched on. Tell her they're there. She sounds unbearable.

Scaffoldingisugly · 16/04/2024 12:22

How did you train him to stick his tongue out at mil?

BMW6 · 16/04/2024 12:17

"You need to go over this yet AGAIN? It's very simple. You kept moving my stuff and doing things in my home that I've repeatedly asked you to stop doing. You are NOT being helpful, you are being rude. You are sailing much too close to the wind. Back off before you do something you'll regret"

binkie163 · 16/04/2024 12:13

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 16/04/2024 11:55

@binkie163 also perfect the art of a tinkly laugh while saying 'You know perfectly well that isn't true'.

I have never managed the tinkly laugh, I would love to do it, its so pass agg with a side portion of up yours. When wind up merchants try their shit with me, I have to glue my gob shut or it comes out as a 10 min expletive rant, losing the moral high ground and wanting to throat punch them😂
I am learning manners rather late in life dealing with family!

therealcookiemonster · 16/04/2024 12:06

maybe have a chat with your DH beforehand and ask him to step in while you say nothing. best policy

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 16/04/2024 11:55

@binkie163 also perfect the art of a tinkly laugh while saying 'You know perfectly well that isn't true'.

binkie163 · 16/04/2024 11:50

@Vegemiteandhoneyontoast brilliant idea, saves spluttering for answers.
I would say you & husband have asked her many times not to rearrange your home and interfere in your 'tightly run ship' it isnt helpful and want no further discussion about it. It is a shame that she rode rough shod over your feelings but it is no longer a problem. (you dont have to add that is because she is banned from your home) just refuse to discuss it....if she pushes and you fancy an argument just tell the whole family the truth and then ask them all to get the fuck out your house.

Sillybillypoopoomummy · 16/04/2024 11:44

agreed with the script
"with respect MIL that is not true, you know you are not helping as you have been told multiple times that it is not, and asked multiple times not to" Calm and factual
, then a breezy 'more potatoes anyone?".

pinkyredrose · 16/04/2024 11:42

Gorgeous dog!! 😀

When she says something just say you've already asked her to leave your things alone and maybe she needs a Dr's appt for her hearing problems.

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 16/04/2024 11:41

What I do is write a script, learn it and then deliver my lines when the cue arrives. It helps a lot.

GelatinousDynamo · 16/04/2024 11:37

OK, I'm refreshing this post because you all have helped me lots back then and I could use some more MN common sense.

My ILs are coming over on Friday for dinner (it's DHs birthday). We've been pretty LC since exchanging those messages after the "cleaning" incident, she's tried to contact me multiple times, but I've always kept it short and focused. Thing is, I KNOW she will want to address our issues, in front of everyone, and it stresses me out. I don't even know why I'm so stressed and worried about it, I just know that she will make me look bad in front of DHs entire family.
So, when the topic inevitably comes up (she will definitely try and make herself look accommodating and heartbroken and so so sad because she's only tried to help, the poor darling), how do I act?
My first instinct would be to tell her that I consider everything cleared and that there's nothing else left to be said. But I know her, she will push the issue. What do I do?

Seriously, I'm a grown up woman with a stressful, successful professional career where I handle entitled assholes all day long, I don't understand myself here, why does the idea of speaking to her again worry me so much?

And btw, this is the dog photo that has replaced the picture she put up last time, I'm very proud of it 😂

To be furious at my MIL for cleaning our living room
OP posts:
AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 12/03/2024 12:18

LovePoppy · 11/03/2024 21:01

So she marked her territory and you said thank you?! She didn’t mean well. You both know it. Her reply shows it. She just won.

god speed OP. This won’t get better.

I can't find "thank you" in the OP's text any more than I can find "sorry" in the one from the MiL.

InlikealionOutlikeahare · 12/03/2024 07:54

I'd go for photoshopping the picture, but replace MIL with you. It's what she's fighting against, anyway, so you might as well fight fire with fire. And put the photo of your parents beside it.

LovePoppy · 11/03/2024 21:01

GelatinousDynamo · 10/03/2024 10:23

Yes, I kept it short and used some phrases PP have posted here.
"You are welcome here, but please don't tidy up anything or move or furniture around while you are here, we have asked you many times not to clean or move things around in our house. When you ignore it, it crosses a line and shows a total disregard for our feelings and opinion. You know this. It causes unnecessary stress and our house is the way we like it. The fact that you've sent me multiple messages to check if I'm "angry" shows that you know you've overstepped the mark. I am not angry. We know you mean well. But you need to stop this."

Her reply was:
"Thank you. I didn't want to change anything, just help you. Thank you for getting in touch again. Thank you so much, I can sleep again. You two are the most important thing for us."

... Which is seriously both a lie, as well as pathetic and a bit sad. Also, unhinged and a bit scary, to be told you're practically her entire life focus.

We'll leave it at that and see where it goes.

So she marked her territory and you said thank you?! She didn’t mean well. You both know it. Her reply shows it. She just won.

god speed OP. This won’t get better.

whynotwhatknot · 11/03/2024 20:49

she still aruging the point -she didnt movestuff she was just helping you

someone like tat wont ever change

Hatty65 · 11/03/2024 16:14

I'm impressed at the tolerance of all those posters saying they'd reply 'I'm not angry with you'. I could not do that.

I'd have had to say straight to her 'Yes I am angry with you. Of course I am, and you know it. You've had the nerve to come into my home and re-arrange my furniture, remove a photo of my parents and replace it with one of you. Of course I'm angry. It's an utterly disgraceful way to behave and you know it. Now go away and cry to whoever you like, but you and I both know that you would be furious if someone came round to your house and pulled this kind of silly stunt. It's fucking ridiculous. You won't be allowed into my home again because you are intrusive, rude and you don't listen. The only excuse would be if you are developing dementia - which is of course a possibility, but I suspect you are just doing it on purpose'.

I can't be doing with tip toeing round narcs.

MrFlippersPancake · 11/03/2024 10:02

Ahh reminds me of the time my MIL was feeding our cat whilst we were on holiday, a simple once a day job really and at the time she lived a few roads away...

For some reason unbeknownst to us she decided to strip just our bed whilst we were away, but then hid the bedding at her house, I wish I was joking. That was a great discovery after over 24hrs travelling! Confused

She also said she missed the bin collection whilst we were away, no biggie I thought, but it turned out she had proceeded to go through the entire contents of the wheelie bin as in literally taking everything out of the bin bags and re bagged everything including the contents of the bathroom bins. Wtaf!

I imagine she had a blast going through all of our stuff uninterrupted for 2 whole weeks.

Oh and she used to take down notes/dates from our family calendar and school stuff on the fridge and opened two letters on the side. I shit you not.

Unsurprisingly, we don't have a lot to do with her anymore and thinking about it, I'm not sure we ever got that bedding back Confused

Cca · 11/03/2024 09:44

Oh my god this behaviour would make my head explode! First of all, if she has a key please change the locks, no more coming over and doing what she wants. You’ve asked her, told her and even had arguments about and she doesn't care to listen and instead emotionally manipulates everyone to bend her will. These messages of “I hope you’re not angry with me” are baiting you, so you could reply with “ I’ve been thinking about what you did, and I’m not angry just disappointed that even though we’ve asked you not to rearrange our living room, you ignored our request or forgot? Do you think so little of us that you will ignore our wishes? You say are only trying to help, but it’s not help if it’s against our wishes. For example you mowed down my wildflower meadow without my permission, I would never do that to you.” It sounds like MIL loves a guilt trip so let her have one of own. Or say “we’ve said many times the help is not required and in fact is quite unhelpful, so are you deliberately ignoring our wishes or did you forget? I’m worried that we might need to get you some help for your memory.” I hope it’s not memory issues and is in fact MIL being a pain in the arse. X I wish you luck 💐

Wexone · 11/03/2024 08:54

Abbyant · 11/03/2024 08:50

Cloths sorry I have different cleaning cloths for the bathroom and kitchen that I replace weekly one wipes down the bathroom sink and bath and one wipes down the toilet seat and lid and sits in bleach, I then have one in the kitchen for wiping down counters and sink. I had to reclean my whole kitchen because I obviously didn’t know if she’d used the toilet cloth all over my kitchen.

ah get ya. makes sense now would kill her
I actually have colour coded clothes blue is bathroom pink is kitchen etc. helps ensure everyone knows what one to use

Abbyant · 11/03/2024 08:50

Wexone · 11/03/2024 08:16

Whole heartily agree agree MIL is cracked in the head but what is bathroom clothes and why couldn't they go in the washing machine if they touched the toilet instead of binning them ?

Cloths sorry I have different cleaning cloths for the bathroom and kitchen that I replace weekly one wipes down the bathroom sink and bath and one wipes down the toilet seat and lid and sits in bleach, I then have one in the kitchen for wiping down counters and sink. I had to reclean my whole kitchen because I obviously didn’t know if she’d used the toilet cloth all over my kitchen.

Wexone · 11/03/2024 08:16

Abbyant · 10/03/2024 19:43

This is why my dp has gone nc with his mother she even sent a message today playing the victim because he’d not been in touch for Mother’s Day but the last time she came to the house she soaked our new wooden floors, put the children’s water bottles in the dishwasher (melting them) as well as facing all the knifed upwards, moved my bathroom clothes into the kitchen so I had to bin them all as I didn’t know which ones had touched the toilet and told my dp that we shouldn’t have had children.

Whole heartily agree agree MIL is cracked in the head but what is bathroom clothes and why couldn't they go in the washing machine if they touched the toilet instead of binning them ?