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To be furious at my MIL for cleaning our living room

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GelatinousDynamo · 08/03/2024 15:20

My MIL and I do not have the easiest relationship, I find her overbearing and "helpful" in a way that totally irritates me. She does whatever she wants and expects to be thanked for it.

It happened again today- FIL wanted to come over to borrow some tools and look at the garage roof with DH (they live about an hour's drive away). She called DH yesterday that she's coming along and will help clean and iron his shirts (he's in his 40s ffs, he's perfectly capable of ironing his own shirts). DH told her that she's welcome to come over, but she won't be cleaning. What happened? While my husband was outside with FIL and on a work call, she "tidied up" our living room. Ultimately, this means that it looks like a tornado swept through it. NOTHING is where it should be, even the furniture has been moved (eg the armchair for "better afternoon light", apparently).

This is not the first time and we've been turning down her "help" for years. Politely at first, then with a categorical no. She used to listen, but since we got married and bought a house, it's like she doesn't give a shit anymore, just comes over and does what she wants. Examples: last summer, she mowed my wildflower meadow in the front garden, because "you don't want those ugly weeds in front". She knew that it was supposed to stay, but she didn't like it, we would not bend when she complained about it being ugly, so she went and killed it. Just before Christmas, she " organised" our kitchen drawers and cupboards. She has form for ironing my clothes (destroying them in the process). Each and every time she's been told not to beforehand.

Every such incident is followed by a conversation with DH and (sometimes) FIL. Every such conversation ends in tears and with statements like "but I only want to help" and "I didn't want to do anything wrong". If DH is really angry (like when she secretly fed our dog to make him like her), it's "but I just want to feel needed". She then tells her sob story to her brothers, who then call my husband complaining that he's not treating his mother right (we're talking about people in their late 60s).

Today, as I came home from work, she welcomed me with "I hope you're not angry with me". I said nothing. They were already leaving as I came in. I'm fucking FURIOUS. I have better things to do than arrange my living room back to the way it should be. Now she's blasting me with text messages all saying "I hope you're not angry with me" and "I've just tidied up a bit". I've ignored her so far, don't even know what I should answer so it it doesn't turn into a huge drama with her in the leading role of Victim. She still doesn't understand that she did something wrong, it's like talking to a teenager.

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therealcookiemonster · 08/03/2024 18:14

Allofaflutter · 08/03/2024 15:26

Turn up at her house and start moving stuff.

this is the only solution

and don't forget to mow her flower beds

Scaffoldingisugly · 08/03/2024 18:13

Tell dh to ask her if she needs to see her GP as she seems to be having problems with her memory..
I remember dh physically manhandling fil out of our house after repeatedly wrapping a small dc up to the point he was dripping sweat and dangerously overheating.. Fil was adamant he was cold and he was entitled to look after his dgs the way he wanted..

GelatinousDynamo · 08/03/2024 18:12

Beingboredisgoodforyou · 08/03/2024 17:54

I feel your pain. At least you didn't come home from work to find a man fitting a new stair carpet with MIL supervising. She'd measured it, chosen the new carpet (nasty), paid for it, and arranged for it to be fitted. Things did not end well. Poor carpet fitter was a bit scared.
Before people tell me I'm ungrateful, she was only being kind, NO! This was the final straw. I thought she'd learnt after the magnolia paint incident but no, control, dominate, power...😡

Omg, now I'm scared. She's been complaining that our walls are too white 😂

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misskatamari · 08/03/2024 18:12

I would be furious.

i don’t know the best way to approach it but I’d probably text back something like “I am upset. We have asked you many times not to tidy or move things in our home. When that is ignored it oversteps a boundary and shows a total disregard for our feelings and happiness. You know this. You are asking now if I am angry. Yes, and it should have been expected, because you have done something purposefully that you know we are uncomfortable with, and makes us feel this discomfort in our own home. I don’t know the best way to move forward from this, as it is very hurtful to have our wishes ignored, when we have made our stance very clear many times.” And id leave it at that and refuse to engage in any histrionics she tries to pull. It’s so fucking disrespectful and rude! I wouldn’t be having her round again if she couldn’t respect my space and wishes. And it’s her own bloody fault, so crying, whatever, don’t care, and the flying monkeys could fuck right off!

Shetlands · 08/03/2024 18:09

Hatty65 · 08/03/2024 18:05

I'd ignore all messages. And I'd make it very clear to DH that if she ever crossed my doorstep again without being constantly shadowed by him that I was leaving.

I would go very LC with her.

I agree - she has to know that she's not allowed inside your house without one of you being there. She has no respect for you or your husband because she totally ignores everything you say. You owe her nothing in return. She's lucky you both speak to her at all.

LadyBird1973 · 08/03/2024 18:09

She'd be banned from my house. I honestly wouldn't allow her to cross the threshold.

GelatinousDynamo · 08/03/2024 18:05

Crochetablanket · 08/03/2024 17:18

You have to tell us the dog story now !

I might start another post on the dog 😂but it mostly boils down to her following the dog everywhere and touching him all the time, the dog being weirded out and avoiding her, and her then feeding the dog mountains of meat and snacks to make him like her. Which ended in hourly trips to the garden in the night (for us and the dog).

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Hatty65 · 08/03/2024 18:05

I'd ignore all messages. And I'd make it very clear to DH that if she ever crossed my doorstep again without being constantly shadowed by him that I was leaving.

I would go very LC with her.

azlazee1 · 08/03/2024 18:05

I would go to her house and rearrange every bloody thing and see if she gets the point. I would also tell her if she rearranges things again she will Not be welcome in house. Change locks if you have to. The nerve of her!

SignoraVolpe · 08/03/2024 18:05

It's simple.
When mil pays your mortgage she gets a say!

graceinspace999 · 08/03/2024 18:05

I’d hate anyone cleaning/rooting or otherwise messing with my stuff!

So I wouldn’t allow her in unguarded and her lovely son can be the guard or they can all live happily ever after - in MIL’s house.

TomeTome · 08/03/2024 18:03

Ignore the whole thing. Do not discuss it. Do not allow it to be discussed in her presence.

Shetlands · 08/03/2024 18:02

GelatinousDynamo · 08/03/2024 17:56

They used to have a key, obviously it's been taken away after the lawn mower incident

Well that's a good step forward - never let them in the house unless you're there.

LittleSnowdropsHeraldingSpring · 08/03/2024 18:02

Find your way to the stately homes thread on the relationships board
its a pattern of behaviour

laclochette · 08/03/2024 18:01

OP I think your current approach of not reacting is the best strategy! She's desperate for something to do and some kind of role/way to be needed, for attention. If you don't react at all I really think it will end with her stopping. Just completely pretend as if nothing has happened. She'll get no emotional feedback from anyone. Not you. Not her brothers rallying round (because nothing to whinge about). It'll take some teeth gritting but could be quite fun too, acting as if nothing has happened and seeing her realize you won't rise to her bait.

GelatinousDynamo · 08/03/2024 18:00

zzpleb · 08/03/2024 17:14

PLEASE DO THIS!!!

Or at least leave paperwork lying around that suggests you and DH are emigrating to New Zealand or something similar.

I love this, especially if I left it on my desk (my work is often confidential, so no one is allowed into my office at home, I still always lock everything up). I know she tries to snoop around every time when here, caught her once at Christmas, apparently on her way to the bathroom... Which she passed on the way.

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OnlyTheBravest · 08/03/2024 18:00

@GelatinousDynamo Could you lock things away. Take the iron and mower etc and put them in a shed with a key. Remove the key when she visits.

And find a random job that she can do to keep her from 'helping' e.g. fold bedding.

Phineyj · 08/03/2024 18:00

If they don't have a key then I'd meet them only outside the house for a few months. Pub lunches or whatever. Dog walk.

DH can see his dad at theirs. DH should also take up percussion. Maybe electric guitar. They can start a band.

It's ok not to have people in your house who can't be trusted. I would definitely put a lock on your bedroom in the meantime.

GelatinousDynamo · 08/03/2024 17:56

SleepingStandingUp · 08/03/2024 16:54

How much unsupervised test me does she have in your house? How did she manage to move a whole lawn without you noticing? How does she get hold of your iron and washing pile?

They used to have a key, obviously it's been taken away after the lawn mower incident

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Beingboredisgoodforyou · 08/03/2024 17:54

I feel your pain. At least you didn't come home from work to find a man fitting a new stair carpet with MIL supervising. She'd measured it, chosen the new carpet (nasty), paid for it, and arranged for it to be fitted. Things did not end well. Poor carpet fitter was a bit scared.
Before people tell me I'm ungrateful, she was only being kind, NO! This was the final straw. I thought she'd learnt after the magnolia paint incident but no, control, dominate, power...😡

GelatinousDynamo · 08/03/2024 17:54

muggart · 08/03/2024 16:39

I wonder what prompted her to ask whether you are angry at her. Did FIL or DH tell her off already or does she intuitively know that she's been out of order?

DH told her off

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GelatinousDynamo · 08/03/2024 17:53

Mischance · 08/03/2024 16:38

Clearly it is not your job to entertain her.
But I am suggesting that she is mentally ill. Nothing you have described is normal. How old is she? What does she do all day? Does she seem cognitively intact?
Not making any attempt to engage socially is not normal. And not able to go shopping on her own?
Where does her OH stand on all this? Is he a caring man, or does he just shrug his shoulders when she behaves like this?
I have a deep aversion to online mental health diagnoses, but this woman is not well and needs some help.

I don't think it's mental illness. She's just used to everyone always accompanying her and accommodating her in every way possible. She can drive, but always insists on being chauffeured by FIL oh her brothers because "she's scared of traffic". FIL is very caring and loves her, so he kind of bows to her wishes and has his own hobbies and things going on. She has lots of social contact, but mostly with her brothers and their wives. As for what she does all day... I really have no idea. Goes to the shops thrice a day, mostly.

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Superscientist · 08/03/2024 17:51

When she asks if you are angry reply with, why was that your intention? I see what you mean about the chair but I will be putting it back. Where it was is better for reading maybe next time bring a book and you can see for yourself?

mardylookingfrump · 08/03/2024 17:51

Plant bindweed in her garden. Introduce bedbugs and silverfish to her house. Keep her busy at home.

NoCloudsAllowed · 08/03/2024 17:48

She's deranged. I wouldn't let her near my house without supervision. I'd be lobbing a few seed bombs in her garden too ;)

I'd suggest dh/fil help her find some clubs or activities near her, she's obviously got too much time on her hands.

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