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To be furious at my MIL for cleaning our living room

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GelatinousDynamo · 08/03/2024 15:20

My MIL and I do not have the easiest relationship, I find her overbearing and "helpful" in a way that totally irritates me. She does whatever she wants and expects to be thanked for it.

It happened again today- FIL wanted to come over to borrow some tools and look at the garage roof with DH (they live about an hour's drive away). She called DH yesterday that she's coming along and will help clean and iron his shirts (he's in his 40s ffs, he's perfectly capable of ironing his own shirts). DH told her that she's welcome to come over, but she won't be cleaning. What happened? While my husband was outside with FIL and on a work call, she "tidied up" our living room. Ultimately, this means that it looks like a tornado swept through it. NOTHING is where it should be, even the furniture has been moved (eg the armchair for "better afternoon light", apparently).

This is not the first time and we've been turning down her "help" for years. Politely at first, then with a categorical no. She used to listen, but since we got married and bought a house, it's like she doesn't give a shit anymore, just comes over and does what she wants. Examples: last summer, she mowed my wildflower meadow in the front garden, because "you don't want those ugly weeds in front". She knew that it was supposed to stay, but she didn't like it, we would not bend when she complained about it being ugly, so she went and killed it. Just before Christmas, she " organised" our kitchen drawers and cupboards. She has form for ironing my clothes (destroying them in the process). Each and every time she's been told not to beforehand.

Every such incident is followed by a conversation with DH and (sometimes) FIL. Every such conversation ends in tears and with statements like "but I only want to help" and "I didn't want to do anything wrong". If DH is really angry (like when she secretly fed our dog to make him like her), it's "but I just want to feel needed". She then tells her sob story to her brothers, who then call my husband complaining that he's not treating his mother right (we're talking about people in their late 60s).

Today, as I came home from work, she welcomed me with "I hope you're not angry with me". I said nothing. They were already leaving as I came in. I'm fucking FURIOUS. I have better things to do than arrange my living room back to the way it should be. Now she's blasting me with text messages all saying "I hope you're not angry with me" and "I've just tidied up a bit". I've ignored her so far, don't even know what I should answer so it it doesn't turn into a huge drama with her in the leading role of Victim. She still doesn't understand that she did something wrong, it's like talking to a teenager.

OP posts:
MeridianB · 08/03/2024 19:27

Urgh. Totally agree with others saying ignore her texts. Even the new one about lunch. If it escalates just say your phone isn’t working properly. Ignore any BS from her brothers, too.

She clearly won’t respond to more chats or reminders about not touching things, so I’d just ensure she doesn’t come to the house for as long as possible and then only when she can be 100% supervised.

Your DH needs to keep backing you all the way. And mostly, she needs to get a grip of herself and stop wasting her life. There are a kazillion charities and organisations that need volunteers.

Naptimeagain · 08/03/2024 19:27

She's awful, and I'm a bit awful too as I literally LOLed at her putting her own photo of her and her son in front of a photo of your parents in your house.

Definitely best response is not to reply, she knows she overstepped and wants you to be cross so she can tell her brothers how horrid you are to her.

Sounds as if your husband is on your side, which is good as he'll have to supervise her all the time she's there in future, though ideally all meetings away from your house in future. He won't be able to tell her she's not welcome because there'll be massive drama, just each time they invite themselves, he says it suits him better to visit them, and do this each time.

If they turn up unannounced you don't have to open the door. If they see you're in and ring, you don't have to answer - your husband can text her later and say you were having romantic couple time, again every time.

Avoid her as much as you can, she's looking for drama, starve her of it and she can start in on one of her sisters in law.

Seeingadistance · 08/03/2024 19:26

Stay resolute and continue to ignore her.

Hatty65 · 08/03/2024 19:22

Don't answer her. She's desperate for a response. Personally I'd block her number so I didn't have to read her shit.

And she would not be crossing my threshold again.

binkie163 · 08/03/2024 19:22

You are in a pissing competition OP, have you checked the carpets, she probably pisses in the corners every time to mark her territory! and spits on your pillow case 😂
Trying to deal with dysfunctional drama addicts is pointless and exhausting. You are a stronger calmer person than me, I would have tarred and feathered her by now.

sprigatito · 08/03/2024 19:21

I'd have hit the fucking roof about the wildflowers. How dare she?

If your DH can't stand up to his mother and put a stop to her nonsense, I would be refusing to spend time with her at all. She knows what she's doing.

Itisverycomplicated · 08/03/2024 19:19

WhenIsTheGeneralElection · 08/03/2024 18:58

I don't think this is right. I think firm clear boundaries with associated consequences are needed.

i.e. "If you do this again you will be barred from visiting for X number of months."

Then when she cries say "I told you and you did it anyway. You knew what you were doing. See you in X months" and DH has to say it and enforce it.

I totally agree with this in terms of it being a healthy way to set boundaries. But it’s clear the OP has implemented boundaries and narcissists will not let you put in boundaries with them. I have a MIL who is a covert narcissist and she’s lost when there’s no drama and she can’t play the victim. We went in with strong boundaries, it went nuclear, held onto hope and boundaries but eventually had to go no contact for two years. So you’re right, I missed that step because of my own experience. It is a really important step and OP’s DH has to do it and make decisions about next step. But i tell you now, it will not work. A narcissist will not allow you to put in a boundary

Advicediddlyice · 08/03/2024 19:17

GelatinousDynamo · 08/03/2024 18:49

She's changed her texting strategy, asking if I've liked the food she's brought for lunch (she brought lunch for DH, FIL and herself and DH has put some aside for me).

That clever woman. If I ignore it, I'm ungrateful, while she's provided me with a home cooked meal. If I answer, I'm back online and she's not being ignored any longer. That CLEVER CLEVER woman.

I haven't eaten it btw, DH has wolfed it down while cooking dinner.

You don’t have to reply though. Who cares if she thinks you’re rude…she doesn’t care about you or your feelings clearly.

Personally I think I’d have to say she is no longer allowed in your home. Maybe keep that in place for 6 months then see what happens after that. You’ve described multiple situations where she has not just been annoying and rude but really invaded your privacy.

Don’t speak to her brothers if they call. I’d respond to them with “she hadn’t respected our home and so she can’t visit until she can learn to respect our space and be polite In our home” then Hang up and don’t answer any future calls .

Thing is she is being allowed by everyone to act in this self centred rude way. It’s ridiculous

MCOut · 08/03/2024 19:15

OP believe me, she knows what she’s doing, she is attention seeking. That’s why she keeps doing it. She doesn’t even really mind when you get upset with her because it just gives her an opportunity to extend her three act play and get others involved. Do not respond.

ElbiTut · 08/03/2024 19:15

She is bored and wants to pick a fight with you.
Hence pinging you "hoping she didn't do anything wrong and you are not mad', regardless the fact you took the higher road and didn't tell her off. She knows very well what she has done.
Well done to you.
Just ignore it, she just enjoys arguing.

user1984778379202 · 08/03/2024 19:12

Keep ignoring her! Or simply text back: DH ate it all.

She sounds like an absolute nightmare. Who cares if she goes crying to her brothers – your DH needs to put them straight that she oversteps boundaries all the time and you've both had enough of it.

whynotwhatknot · 08/03/2024 19:10

wats dh take on this-had a go at her but was it dont do that mum

he needs to tell er now shes not welcome anymore as she wont listen

Laara · 08/03/2024 19:08

Nothing can be as bad as my mum, who stripped our living room wallpaper, chose something else and put it up, all while I was at work….😳

Dartwarbler · 08/03/2024 19:07

GelatinousDynamo · 08/03/2024 17:33

I think it's actually a good idea, I might suggest it when the waterworks come

Be aware, it’s not always easy volunteering. It needs commitment from the get go, and a commitment to defined hours. If she has the drive to volunteer she’d have done so before to feel “useful”
this women has poor self esteem and is living her life and rewards through her son and brothers- she wants their attention and appreciation even when she’s crying about being misunderstood

hemce why U3A may be a better option. She can drop in and out, needs very little firm commitments, she can try a whole bunch of things. She needs the validation of friendships, companies and feeling useful in a way that won’t actually have to be a full commitment

LovePoppy · 08/03/2024 19:07

FenellaBestwick · 08/03/2024 19:04

At least she didn't re-decorate in her taste... that's happened in my family more than once...

I need to know more

NeedthatFridayfeeling · 08/03/2024 19:04

Get a cheap security camera and set it up when she's due round, watch via your phone then if she starts moving things etc shout to her via the camera

Raccaccoonie · 08/03/2024 19:04

I think the pp who said "we know you struggle with boundaries and inappropriate behaviour" has the right idea. Maybe a bit of "concern" over this?

FenellaBestwick · 08/03/2024 19:04

At least she didn't re-decorate in her taste... that's happened in my family more than once...

Jifmicroliquid · 08/03/2024 19:02

Tell the dreadful busy body that if she wants to come to your house again, she will stop with the incessant need to interfere. If she can’t then she is no longer welcome.
I despise people like this.

viques · 08/03/2024 19:01

GelatinousDynamo · 08/03/2024 15:30

I guess it needed dusting, I was planning to do it this weekend. Still, no reason to move everything around.

I just saw that pushed the picture of my parents back and put one of her and my husband in front. It's not our picture. The frame has tiny hearts all over. This woman is crazy.

I would be popping that back to her in the post with a note.

did you accidentally leave this behind the other day, it’s not ours so am assuming it is yours.

WhenIsTheGeneralElection · 08/03/2024 18:58

Itisverycomplicated · 08/03/2024 18:55

She’s a covert narcissist. She will continue to do wildly inappropriate things to evoke your anger so she can play the victim. That’s the attention that feeds her. Don’t give her what she wants. What she’s doing is absolutely wild! I would go no contact she will never change. Putting in stronger boundaries she will dine out on. She wants the anger so I think that needs to be hidden. Agree about playing around with that and maybe playing the victim yourself.

I don't think this is right. I think firm clear boundaries with associated consequences are needed.

i.e. "If you do this again you will be barred from visiting for X number of months."

Then when she cries say "I told you and you did it anyway. You knew what you were doing. See you in X months" and DH has to say it and enforce it.

Itisverycomplicated · 08/03/2024 18:55

She’s a covert narcissist. She will continue to do wildly inappropriate things to evoke your anger so she can play the victim. That’s the attention that feeds her. Don’t give her what she wants. What she’s doing is absolutely wild! I would go no contact she will never change. Putting in stronger boundaries she will dine out on. She wants the anger so I think that needs to be hidden. Agree about playing around with that and maybe playing the victim yourself.

WhenIsTheGeneralElection · 08/03/2024 18:53

Hi OP, I think you need to get your DP up on his hind legs. She's never going to cave until he stands up to her. I've been there.

BroccoliHighkicks · 08/03/2024 18:53

Raccaccoonie · 08/03/2024 18:45

I wouldn't do this but I'd be tempted... "MIL, there was a small envelope with £200 in I had to pay someone. Where did you put it? I need to drop it off tomorrow morning"

I think you might be an evil genius!

Shetlands · 08/03/2024 18:53

GelatinousDynamo · 08/03/2024 18:49

She's changed her texting strategy, asking if I've liked the food she's brought for lunch (she brought lunch for DH, FIL and herself and DH has put some aside for me).

That clever woman. If I ignore it, I'm ungrateful, while she's provided me with a home cooked meal. If I answer, I'm back online and she's not being ignored any longer. That CLEVER CLEVER woman.

I haven't eaten it btw, DH has wolfed it down while cooking dinner.

Just ignore it. You'll be called ungrateful whatever you do. I know it's hard but you have to get past caring about she thinks or says or what her interfering brothers think or say. You either accept being bullied and manipulated by this woman or you stand up to her and shut her out of your home.