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To be furious at my MIL for cleaning our living room

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GelatinousDynamo · 08/03/2024 15:20

My MIL and I do not have the easiest relationship, I find her overbearing and "helpful" in a way that totally irritates me. She does whatever she wants and expects to be thanked for it.

It happened again today- FIL wanted to come over to borrow some tools and look at the garage roof with DH (they live about an hour's drive away). She called DH yesterday that she's coming along and will help clean and iron his shirts (he's in his 40s ffs, he's perfectly capable of ironing his own shirts). DH told her that she's welcome to come over, but she won't be cleaning. What happened? While my husband was outside with FIL and on a work call, she "tidied up" our living room. Ultimately, this means that it looks like a tornado swept through it. NOTHING is where it should be, even the furniture has been moved (eg the armchair for "better afternoon light", apparently).

This is not the first time and we've been turning down her "help" for years. Politely at first, then with a categorical no. She used to listen, but since we got married and bought a house, it's like she doesn't give a shit anymore, just comes over and does what she wants. Examples: last summer, she mowed my wildflower meadow in the front garden, because "you don't want those ugly weeds in front". She knew that it was supposed to stay, but she didn't like it, we would not bend when she complained about it being ugly, so she went and killed it. Just before Christmas, she " organised" our kitchen drawers and cupboards. She has form for ironing my clothes (destroying them in the process). Each and every time she's been told not to beforehand.

Every such incident is followed by a conversation with DH and (sometimes) FIL. Every such conversation ends in tears and with statements like "but I only want to help" and "I didn't want to do anything wrong". If DH is really angry (like when she secretly fed our dog to make him like her), it's "but I just want to feel needed". She then tells her sob story to her brothers, who then call my husband complaining that he's not treating his mother right (we're talking about people in their late 60s).

Today, as I came home from work, she welcomed me with "I hope you're not angry with me". I said nothing. They were already leaving as I came in. I'm fucking FURIOUS. I have better things to do than arrange my living room back to the way it should be. Now she's blasting me with text messages all saying "I hope you're not angry with me" and "I've just tidied up a bit". I've ignored her so far, don't even know what I should answer so it it doesn't turn into a huge drama with her in the leading role of Victim. She still doesn't understand that she did something wrong, it's like talking to a teenager.

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Grimchmas · 09/03/2024 07:21

TheoriginalMrsDarcy · 09/03/2024 07:14

My MIL does exactly the same as yours. Takes every opportunity to clean and when she does, moves our stuff around. The other year whilst we were on holiday, she cleaned my kitchen cupboards and moved EVERYTHING about so I couldn't find anything. She's tidied up my paperwork and I couldn't find my passport. Looked for it for 6 months then had to apply for a new one. (I'd only had it 1 year). She's even moved my cutlery about in the drawer. I've come to the conclusion to accept the help.
She's not going anywhere and it's better to keep the peace. No point arguing over the little things now. She does a grand job of looking after our child which is the main thing.

If mowing a few 'weeds' make her happy or dusting and cleaning makes her feel useful, then knock yourself out. They think they're being helpful and helping make your life easier. We know shes annoying, even if she doesnt. They're not here forever and one day you will look back with your husband and talk about all the batshit crazy stuff his mum/ur MIL did with fondness and laugh. I did eventually have words that if she cleans, she's to put everything back to its original place. She's does that now.

At least she's not a horrible MIL, in comparison to some you read on here.

Destroying clothes, making the dog ill, destroying a wildlife habitat after she was told not to, and damaging relationships repeatedly does seem to fit the definition of horrible MIL though.

TheoriginalMrsDarcy · 09/03/2024 07:14

My MIL does exactly the same as yours. Takes every opportunity to clean and when she does, moves our stuff around. The other year whilst we were on holiday, she cleaned my kitchen cupboards and moved EVERYTHING about so I couldn't find anything. She's tidied up my paperwork and I couldn't find my passport. Looked for it for 6 months then had to apply for a new one. (I'd only had it 1 year). She's even moved my cutlery about in the drawer. I've come to the conclusion to accept the help.
She's not going anywhere and it's better to keep the peace. No point arguing over the little things now. She does a grand job of looking after our child which is the main thing.

If mowing a few 'weeds' make her happy or dusting and cleaning makes her feel useful, then knock yourself out. They think they're being helpful and helping make your life easier. We know shes annoying, even if she doesnt. They're not here forever and one day you will look back with your husband and talk about all the batshit crazy stuff his mum/ur MIL did with fondness and laugh. I did eventually have words that if she cleans, she's to put everything back to its original place. She's does that now.

At least she's not a horrible MIL, in comparison to some you read on here.

justtidying · 09/03/2024 07:01

PurplePansy05 · 09/03/2024 06:09

OP, I agree with PPs she can never be in your house alone. She's obviously manipulative and controlling and she won't respect your boundaries. I don't know if you're planning to have kids, but if you do, I feel for you already!

I have every sympathy for you. She's so batshit I lolled several times at her behaviours, in a this cannot be fucking real kind of way 🤣

Edited

Yup yup yup!

DrJoanAllenby · 09/03/2024 06:59

AnotherDayAnotherDoller · 09/03/2024 06:30

I see where this would be frustrating but honestly I'm a little jealous!
If happily let her clean my house - maybe not iron though if she ruins the clothes.

Intact I would just leave her a pile of DH clothes when she comes.

She has y just cleaned though. She has moved furniture around and reorganised where the op and her husband place familiar items. She has put a photo of herself and her son in front of a photo of the op's parents!

She has previously been asked/told not to move things around.

She fed the dog all manner of crap so that the dog was ill in the night.

The op and her husband have tried to be kind and asked her to do specific jobs thinking that would satisfy her need to interfere but she's said no citing back ache etc.

The woman is not doing anything to help, she is undermining the op and causing trouble.

Completely different to your idea of someone giving a helpful hand with household duties.

Grimchmas · 09/03/2024 06:53

I also think installing pet cameras is a good idea. Don't tell her you've done it either, it's none of her business, and it's for legitimate reasons. That way if DH slips up, or if she manages to "go to the bathroom" alone you can tell her off immediately because your pet cam pinged you. If she weeps and wails, off she fucks home, and the brothers get put on pre-emptive ignore for a few days.

GinForBreakfast · 09/03/2024 06:51

My SIL is identical to your MIL OP, I would love to know her "diagnosis".

Her son (DH's nephew) has just had a breakdown because of her and has said that he won't visit or call until she apologises and gets some insight into the effects of her behaviour. It's tragic.

Grimchmas · 09/03/2024 06:50

Adding my voice to those saying that she simply cannot be allowed in your house unless she is accompanied at all times, with the same unhealthy level of dogged attachment that she gives to the dog.

When the brothers grim ring up to complain tell them it's nothing to do with them and promptly hang up on them. Refuse to engage with them on the subject at all. DH needs to do the same.

In all honestly it sounds like DH is going to have to stop taking his father up on offers to help in the garden or with DIY etc, and change his relationship with his parents to one which is wholly just social, and to at least a greater part, outside of his home.

Northernsouloldies · 09/03/2024 06:46

I was wondering that if she destroyed her son's clothes or just the dil.

AnotherDayAnotherDoller · 09/03/2024 06:30

I see where this would be frustrating but honestly I'm a little jealous!
If happily let her clean my house - maybe not iron though if she ruins the clothes.

Intact I would just leave her a pile of DH clothes when she comes.

PurplePansy05 · 09/03/2024 06:12

tothelefttotheleft · 08/03/2024 23:56

How do you not get what has happened here?!

It's probably her MIL 🤣🤣🤣

PurplePansy05 · 09/03/2024 06:09

OP, I agree with PPs she can never be in your house alone. She's obviously manipulative and controlling and she won't respect your boundaries. I don't know if you're planning to have kids, but if you do, I feel for you already!

I have every sympathy for you. She's so batshit I lolled several times at her behaviours, in a this cannot be fucking real kind of way 🤣

user1492757084 · 09/03/2024 05:54

Brefugee · 08/03/2024 15:24

Frankly: get DH, MIL and FIL in a room.
Say "I am being very clear here MIL - you are not to step foot within the boundary of this property without a) express permission from both DH and me, and b) that you are accompanied at all times. And now you will put everything back exactly as it was"

or words to that effect.

Three choices ..
One ..This, above.

Two.. Don't allow her to visit when you are not there.

Three .. Have DH give her a written, detailed, list of cleaning that she can do if she visits him while you are not there. Such as ironing from specific basket, folding clothes from specific basket, hanging up washing on line, taking down washing from line, sweeping hard floors, cleaning the bathroom with specific cleaning kit. washing outthe fridge,
Outdoor yard work like - weeding specific garden beds, mowing back lawn, picking up sand toys from lawn, washing the car, washing the rubbish bins, vaccuming the car and sweeping up leaves. Have such a long list every time and if she deviates from it she will not be welcomed next time.

When she does help and does stick to task, be very thankful.

Carlou · 09/03/2024 05:13

you aren't being unreasonable. Your home should be just that.... YOURS. Not hers.

Fraaahnces · 09/03/2024 04:23

I also suspect that she does this shit to create drama that she can share with the brothers too. It wouldn’t surprise me if the brother’s wives think she’s a manipulative witch too. PLUS, OP becomes the enemy, not her. Cow.

Mothership4two · 09/03/2024 03:05

My DM has done that sort of thing. We have had some straight talks over the years.

Once I had a new bathroom put in all done in sea greens and blues against white and when she came to stay she changed all the towels (including our personal ones) and mat replacing with (clashing) dark orange ones without telling anyone. I just put them in a pile on the landing. She said "you don't like them do you?", "nope", "I'll take them away shall I?", "yep"

Weenurse · 09/03/2024 03:03

The wild flower incident would have ended in a permanent ban here

Flyhigher · 09/03/2024 02:45

It is mental illness. This is not normal. My mother was similar.

RawBloomers · 09/03/2024 02:43

Growuppeople · 09/03/2024 02:10

Hope your kids are boys and this happens to you.

You think if you have sons it turns you into someone who can’t respect her children or their partners?

That seems like a particularly bizarre view of psychological development.

Flyhigher · 09/03/2024 02:42

Can you husband go and see her at her house instead? So she doesn't visit you?

Hippyhippybake · 09/03/2024 02:24

I’m staying with my elderly mother at the moment and the clutter, chaos and complete lack of logic to kitchen cupboards etc is making me crazy. Never in a million years though would I start rearranging stuff or sorting it out. She likes it the way it is and it’s her house.

pikkumyy77 · 09/03/2024 02:18

Growuppeople · 09/03/2024 02:10

Hope your kids are boys and this happens to you.

What is happening to the MIL? She isn’t being murdered.

My MIL was an absolute bitch but she was wise enough to recognize that my home was not her home. We respected each other and when I was a guest in her home, or she a guest in mine, we knew how to behave.

Growuppeople · 09/03/2024 02:10

Hope your kids are boys and this happens to you.

pikkumyy77 · 09/03/2024 02:01

Not demented! Garden variety narcissism. If OP hangs tough she should expect an extinction burst of hysterical activity and probably a “lawn tantrum” where she comes to your front yard-in an American suburb it would be a lawn—and throws herself down and flails her arms and legs like a toddler in a rage.

BobbyBookcase · 09/03/2024 01:32

Dementia?

KomodoOhno · 09/03/2024 01:23

My Ex MIL was exactly like this ugh YANBU at all

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