AIBU to ask if you believe that a labour government will go some way to fixing the NHS?

FWIW:

All expert analysis has projected that in order to keep up with the costs created by an ageing population and the increasing costs of treatment, healthcare spending would have to increase IN REAL TERMS year on year. This is true in all healthcare systems, not just the NHS.

But healthcare spending GROWTH, which increased rapidly under Blair & Brown, was significantly below average for 9 years before the pandemic.

According to the BMA there's been a cumulative underspend of £362 billion since 2009/10.

Coupled with the inevitable costs created by the public health fallout of austerity, the abject failure to address social care, and the closure of 5000 mental health beds since 2010 - and, well, this is where we are.

Reading these responses - I'm going to guess hardly anyone here has read any healthcare research which actually analyses what's happened to the NHS over the past 14 years, and sets out what its challenges are.

Just lots of people parroting Conservative/Daily Mail talking points.

The lazy assumption that a nationalised service is inevitably always going to be worse value for money than a privatised system.🤦‍♀️

Do I think the Labour government will give £200 million to a just set up business with no history, that allows a tory MP (baroness Mone) to pocket £20 million and buy a boat, whilst telling the population that they've invested it in the NHS? No

So I think they will do better than this bunch of lying, stealing, incompetents.

They are. The manifesto is out next week. 🙄

Pre COVID you could get a private appointment within two weeks, now it's more like six weeks

I managed a record last week, online BUPA GP appointment at 8, referral letter done by 9, picked a couple of shoulder surgeons I liked the look of and saw one the same afternoon for a consultation and X-ray.

Similar for my hip replacement, had the choice of various dates within a month for the surgery itself (and that was at one of the leading private hip units in London).

It's like a different world to the NHS.

Let's put it this way. Labour believes in spending taxpayers' money on public services. So one would sincerely hope there will be an improvement, although it could take a long time. There isn't a quick fix for this one.

, 🤔 if they want my bloody vote why don't they bloody well tell me.

@justasking111 pre covid I never had phone consultation always face to face

You’ll get it when the manifesto comes out. There’s been loads of media coverage, why don’t you check it out?

spending the kids inheritance

I think you mean their own money that they’ve worked for and saved for a rainy day. The time’s come to put the umbrella up.

It's pitiful with a wife at the heart of issues I would expect far more detail

Pre COVID you could get a private appointment within two weeks, now it's more like six weeks.

You can read it as well as I can.

Employers and employees could be required to pay into some sort of private healthcare. But Bupa etc would have to build new clinics, hospitals.

There's two SPIRE places near us, since lockdown ended they've built two new much larger places to accommodate growing numbers of patients especially the retired who are spending the kids inheritance on routine surgeries for hips, knees, etc. Getting MRI and other scans, seeing consultant for diagnosis, because our Welsh health board has been in special measures for eight years now.

@BIossomtoes what does that actual say??

Tories tried to crack down on non doms... Non doms are the few and they have the means to bugger off.

I think it was raynor in the last debate talking about the elderly on trolleys... And yet my dad was on a trolly in the end of long labour reign last time... If she said " Labour didn't improve the NHS last time we need a new stragety..." I couid get behind her but no same old crap

https://labour.org.uk/missions/nhs/

No. I've heard starmer talk about the NHS but he doesn't mention solutions or why there are problems he just says.... My wife works in it....

I've also not heard a single positive thing about eduction.

I heard Scotland is much worse - what does Wales and Scotland do with the NHS funding? I guess the Labour leader is Wales is very busy with other stuff😂

Sadly its a fact. They have no real plans other than chat BS just like the others

I don’t know what people are expecting - it’s quite common in the US, even with their private healthcare, to have to wait months for an appointment as everyone is using the same system so resources are finite. Currently in the U.K. you will be seen quickly if private as fewer people use this resource.

The Tories devolving power to Labour in Wales is a sham. It’s in no way representative of what a majority Labour government could achieve. Labour in Wales only achieve as much as the Tories allow them to.

I'm guessing your health board isn't Betsi cadwaladr @Oooooooodieeeee

I think for some things the wait is longer. But honestly, I can’t fault the care we have had. All my family have had cause to use it in the last year or so (life has thrown a lot at us) and I’m so grateful for the fantastic care we have had. I dread to think what state we would be in if it was insurance based. My mum would probably be dead. There is no way she could afford insurance.

I had a weekend scan and the staff said they were more than happy to be paid overtime and come in. Weren’t stressed at all and it’s worked to get waiting lists down. We just need the money. It’s out there but we need to tac wealth generated income not raise income tax.