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To be considering buying Ozempic

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Spring5 · 07/03/2024 19:02

Anyone else on it? Whats your take on it?

im 40, 17 ish stone, 5ft 8in. The thought of another summer.. i dont want another fat summer, id like a head start on weightloss. Am i wrong to be considering this?

OP posts:
Icepop79 · 07/03/2024 23:35

PissedOffNeighbour22 · 07/03/2024 23:23

@Icepop79 That sounds dreadful and like you need to come off it asap.

I'm on Mounjaro and don't have any side effects at all. It's possible you could have a reaction to any of the weight loss drugs, but it really doesn't sound like taking Wegovy is having any positive result for you at all and it's not worth making yourself ill over.

Tonight has broken me and I can’t imagine I’ll be able to take another dose after what I’ve gone through this evening. I’ll look into Mounjaro tomorrow and see if it’s worth trying. It certainly can’t be worse than what I’m currently facing!

Pmddornot · 07/03/2024 23:25

ItsFunToBeAVampire · 07/03/2024 23:10

I'd go for it. I started Mounjaro on 24th Feb and I've lost almost a stone already. I've got a lot to lose but I'm amazed by it. It works on your brain as well as your stomach.

Here's the thread that convinced me to give it a go - https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/weight_loss_chat/5007744-mourjano-starting-soon

Where do u purchase

Pmddornot · 07/03/2024 23:23

is this usual price?

To be considering buying Ozempic
PissedOffNeighbour22 · 07/03/2024 23:23

@Icepop79 That sounds dreadful and like you need to come off it asap.

I'm on Mounjaro and don't have any side effects at all. It's possible you could have a reaction to any of the weight loss drugs, but it really doesn't sound like taking Wegovy is having any positive result for you at all and it's not worth making yourself ill over.

ThinWomansBrain · 07/03/2024 23:15

I take semaglutide in tablet form for diabetes - but need to lose weight as well.
with the tablets, you work up in incremental doses to the full dose.

I think it depends; a friend gets it privately and gets lots of counselling and support - and I guess paying large sums £££ concentrates the mind.
If you get it online - or prescribed with no support backup - you're rather left to your own devices. That presupposes that you overeat and/or make bad food choices because you're hungry.
Probably sounds odd to someone that doesn't have issues with food - but a lot of overeating is likely to be through habit, rather than because you're hungry, and habit is also likely to be the cause of unhealthy food choices as well.

In my first six weeks on the full dose of the tablets, I really focussed on eating only when I was hungry, and healthy choices of food. I lost 10kg - and got shingles.
When the GP asked whether I was stressed/lowered immune system, I merrily replied that shingles aside, I felt great, spoke about the weight loss - at which point she said that my body was probably stressed at the rapidity of change.

so try it, but with caution.

Icepop79 · 07/03/2024 23:14

I don’t really know anything about mounjaro. Does it have the same side effects? It’s cheaper than I’m paying for Wegovy and if there’s a chance I could stay on something like that without the side effects, I’d be interested.

ItsFunToBeAVampire · 07/03/2024 23:10

I'd go for it. I started Mounjaro on 24th Feb and I've lost almost a stone already. I've got a lot to lose but I'm amazed by it. It works on your brain as well as your stomach.

Here's the thread that convinced me to give it a go - https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/weight_loss_chat/5007744-mourjano-starting-soon

Mourjano - Starting soon! | Mumsnet

I have decided to start with Mourjano. Have put an order in with Asda and should hopefully be delivered soon! Anyone else going to give Mourjano a go...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/weight_loss_chat/5007744-mourjano-starting-soon

Icepop79 · 07/03/2024 23:09

I’m actually thinking of coming off Wegovy because the side effects have been absolutely horrendous. I’ve been on it since the start of January and I’ve lost a stone, but I’m absolutely ground down and exhausted by how ill I feel 2-3 days per week. Tonight I’ve started vomiting which is a new side effect for me. I haven’t eaten anything since lunchtime when I had less than half a pasta salad, so why I’m suddenly being violently sick every hour is a mystery to me.

My week tends to look like this:
Tuesday evening - inject.
Wednesday - no side effects during the day. No loss of appetite either so have to be careful with what I eat.
Wednesday night - insomnia. Through the night I’ll have short bursts of sleep of about half an hour followed by 2 hours being awake.
Thursday - crippling stomach pain and nausea throughout the day. Generally can’t face eating so have to try and force myself to eat something bland.
Thursday night - stomach pain continues through the night.
Friday - wake up rabidly hungry and remain hungry through the day. This day is really tough - I’m tired, I’m hungry but I know the stomach cramps will return that night if I eat too much.
Saturday and Sunday - these tend to be the best days - reduced appetite with no other side effects except for toxic sulphur burps people can smell from across the room.
Monday and Tuesday - no side effects but appetite no longer reduced.

For a long time the good days and the weight loss would see me through the bad days, but as I increase my dose the bad days are worse and last longer and I don’t think I can keep going - I’m dreading my next injection. I’ve thought about reducing my dose but my appetite wouldn’t be surprised on a lower dose now.

Flatleak · 07/03/2024 23:09

Pmddornot · 07/03/2024 22:59

How much are injections per month? Would I start with the lowest dose and work up?

Between about £180-300.

And yes.

Pmddornot · 07/03/2024 22:59

How much are injections per month? Would I start with the lowest dose and work up?

Flatleak · 07/03/2024 22:46

Midwinter91 · 07/03/2024 21:25

I got saxenda but couldn’t bear to inject myself!! Waste of money

You honestly can't feel the needles. They're not like vaccine or blood needles they're thinner than a human hair!

TheWayOfTheWorld · 07/03/2024 21:40

anxioussister · 07/03/2024 21:33

You are getting a lot of horrible advice on here OP. Some wild internet rumours being repeated as ‘facts’!

It will help you lose weight. Primarily because it stops you eating. Some of that weight will be fat + some will be muscle. If you make an effort to do some weight based exercise along side your meds it will help counteract muscle loss

It is imperative that you use the time you are taking it to address the issues that lead to your initial gain - plenty of people manage to taper of it without significant regain if they’re sensible.

in your shoes I 1000% would. If I struggle to lose the weight after baby 3 I definitely will!

Yes I agree you need to use the "breathing space" to ground new, better habits.

I am now much better at ignoring my "hunger" pangs - I realise it's just a sensation and that actually I'm not hungry. 9 times out of 10 I power through without caving into snacking etc. which is a huge win.

Boomarang · 07/03/2024 21:39

Spring5 · 07/03/2024 21:32

Im happy to pay for it, i believe its worth it for sure but wanted to go via gp to keep under their guidance/monitored

thank you for giving the GP perspective

Edited

Pleasure.

Do, if you have a GP you know or trust, book an appointment to discuss it. Health promotion and risk reduction is part of our job. Patients motivated to improve their health are always a pleasure. They possibly (probably) can’t prescribe but they may also have signposts to other funded weight loss services.

TheWayOfTheWorld · 07/03/2024 21:38

I started 10 months ago and have lost nearly 4 stone, going from 13st 2 to 9 stone 3.

I've combined it with intermittent fasting and added on lots of exercise - I've built up from puffing up hills on walks to running 3x a week (inc a 10k) and 2x PT. Whilst I may have lost a bit of muscle overall, I'm actually a lot more toned and can feel/see my leg muscles and abs in a way I couldn't before.

My BMI is now 23, my fat % has dropped from 42 to 26.5, my resting heart rate is 59 (down from 72), my VO2 max is now above average, my recovery rate has improved by 20 points.

I never went above 0.75 and did most of it on 0.5. I did have awful side effects for the first 3 doses of 0.5 (d&v, etc) but then I learned to eat extremely plainly in the day or two after the injection.

I'm so pleased I did it and persevered.

anxioussister · 07/03/2024 21:33

You are getting a lot of horrible advice on here OP. Some wild internet rumours being repeated as ‘facts’!

It will help you lose weight. Primarily because it stops you eating. Some of that weight will be fat + some will be muscle. If you make an effort to do some weight based exercise along side your meds it will help counteract muscle loss

It is imperative that you use the time you are taking it to address the issues that lead to your initial gain - plenty of people manage to taper of it without significant regain if they’re sensible.

in your shoes I 1000% would. If I struggle to lose the weight after baby 3 I definitely will!

Spring5 · 07/03/2024 21:32

Boomarang · 07/03/2024 21:21

I’m a GP-

I’m supportive of it for weight loss reasons but where I work (and I believe most trusts) it’s not permitted for GPs to prescribe on NHS. Don’t blame your GP if they say no, it’s out of their control. I suspect there are negotiations going on in the background about who will be able to prescribe, to whom, where will the funding come from and be funnelled to etc…

It’s NICE approved and as long as prescribed and monitored appropriately in the private sector I think it’s a great new addition to the obesity toolkit. I have several patients getting it from private sector- we get copied in all prescriptions and monitoring (as can interact with anything we prescribe etc) and there are some decent and conscientious practitioners out there. There may be complete charlatans I don’t know about and never hear from… so do your research. Possibly chat with your GP… if they can’t prescribe due to formulary rules do they know of any reputable prescribers locally?

The infrastructure (clinics, appropriately trained prescribers with capacity to monitor) simply isn’t there in the NHS at the moment. The supply is an issue and concern (like so many medications now), especially when it impacts supply for people who already have diabetes and all the risk that diabetes brings. But that’s not your problem so I don’t think that should come into your own person decision matrix.

Im happy to pay for it, i believe its worth it for sure but wanted to go via gp to keep under their guidance/monitored

thank you for giving the GP perspective

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leilani83 · 07/03/2024 21:29

It costs somewhere around £150-300 a month, depending on the dose so it's expensive but worth it if you can afford it. I think few people get it prescribed by a GP, I didn't, but bought it privately online.

Midwinter91 · 07/03/2024 21:25

I got saxenda but couldn’t bear to inject myself!! Waste of money

Boomarang · 07/03/2024 21:23

BedRot · 07/03/2024 21:21

Does it interfere with HRT at all? I’ve just started an HRT trial but would really like to try ozyempic as well.

I don’t know of any interactions but I’d defo suggest get established on one medication trial before embarking on another.

Otherwise if you get positive or negative effects you can’t tell what the culprit is.

Trial the HRT, give it maybe 6 months with dose titration, and then see where you’re at.

BedRot · 07/03/2024 21:21

Does it interfere with HRT at all? I’ve just started an HRT trial but would really like to try ozyempic as well.

Boomarang · 07/03/2024 21:21

I’m a GP-

I’m supportive of it for weight loss reasons but where I work (and I believe most trusts) it’s not permitted for GPs to prescribe on NHS. Don’t blame your GP if they say no, it’s out of their control. I suspect there are negotiations going on in the background about who will be able to prescribe, to whom, where will the funding come from and be funnelled to etc…

It’s NICE approved and as long as prescribed and monitored appropriately in the private sector I think it’s a great new addition to the obesity toolkit. I have several patients getting it from private sector- we get copied in all prescriptions and monitoring (as can interact with anything we prescribe etc) and there are some decent and conscientious practitioners out there. There may be complete charlatans I don’t know about and never hear from… so do your research. Possibly chat with your GP… if they can’t prescribe due to formulary rules do they know of any reputable prescribers locally?

The infrastructure (clinics, appropriately trained prescribers with capacity to monitor) simply isn’t there in the NHS at the moment. The supply is an issue and concern (like so many medications now), especially when it impacts supply for people who already have diabetes and all the risk that diabetes brings. But that’s not your problem so I don’t think that should come into your own person decision matrix.

FluffyToesMeow · 07/03/2024 21:08

user1471553275 · 07/03/2024 19:47

I'm 43 later this year, also 5'8" and I was 16st 5lbs when I started. I needed to lose weight after being told I was pre-diabetic. I believe that it can be done without medication. It's about massive lifestyle change.

I calorie count using My Fitness Pal to stay in deficit. Got a personal trainer and go to the gym or run 6 days a week. I'm down to 12st 7lbs. I have never felt better. My goal is 11st later this year.

It's been hard work but I know I can maintain this as this has to be forever. I'm comfortably in a size 14 and think I'll be a 12 by the end.

It's been hard and I've wanted to give up but for me the effort has absolutely been worth it. It's changed my mindset completely.

Personally I wouldn't take the medication route but you have to do what's right for you. Good luck whatever you decide.

That's amazing well done! 👏

EmmaEmerald · 07/03/2024 21:06

My doctor would likely prescribe it

but if you get terrible side effects from the injection, you’re stuck with them for at least a week? I have changed my rating and stopped taking ADs but progress is slow.

Itsmeamandaberry · 07/03/2024 21:06

Twatneighbours · 07/03/2024 21:04

Is it a one off payment of £300?

No it's about £170 to £200

Twatneighbours · 07/03/2024 21:04

Is it a one off payment of £300?