To be considering buying Ozempic

So did I 🤷‍♀️ - it's not a magic potion that melts all the fat off you. It's a tool to help you address the underlying eating issues and give you space to get to a better, healthier place.

I've gone from being out of breath walking up a hill to running a half marathon. What a lazy cheat I am

Sorry that should be @DreamyMintFish (am on app, can't edit)

@AfterTheWatershed ah so I have read it then. I thought it was very interesting. Although I think he concluded that on the balance of facts and risk factors he was going to stay on it (or have I misremembered that...)

I lost 4 stone in 10 months by cutting out crap and increasing exercise. I'd much rather do it the healthy way

I thought it was only approved in the UK for Type 2 diabetes?

Well that's something I suppose! I did see an article by Johan Hari (?) about neurological effects, I wonder if it's the same one.

@AfterTheWatershed I haven't read it (yet) but I'll ask the question I always ask - are these concerns related to people using it for weight loss or do they also extend to the diabetics that use it?

Because I see a lot of negative press but it's only ever aimed at the weight loss users - but presumably the drug doesn't make a moral judgment and switch off the bad side effects for diabetic people?

That article is subscription only, what’s the gist?

Asda is out of stock on the higher doses.

No ! Being obese is also an illness so if people need it to help them lose weight then they should be entitled to buy it.

I tried it last year, honestly it was very expensive and my weight loss on it and my hunger level was no better than when I've done low carb calorie controlled diets.

If you can get past the first 2 weeks of hunger on a keto/low carb/high protein type diet then hunger drops significantly.

Ive been dieting using MyFitnessPal, 1690 calories a day and cut down on bread/pasta/rice/potatoes etc. started 1st Jan and I'm 20lbs down as of today.

Using ozempic/Wegovy has been one of the best decisions I have made in my life.

I’m be been obese for longer than I like to remember and tried countless diets with varying levels of success and then failure.

I lost over 4 stone over 10 months and it has been worth every single penny. For me, The relief it gave from quieting all the food noise and emotional eating meant I lost weight, I stopped the cycle of hating myself and eating more and actually started to deal with my underlying issues relating to food rather than just eating my feelings like I did before.

I had very minimal side effects and feel like I finally have my life back. I’m pregnant now, but will 100% return to it as soon as I can go get the remaining excess weight off.

I cannot stress how life changing it has been for me.

How much do you get for £200? Can you afford to keep spending that each month or whatever till you lose 7 stone? Or maybe even half that?
If not then I would try and go down a low carb diet route.
Would your GP not prescribe it, if you are at risk of diabetes etc?
If cost is no issue then I can't see why you shouldn't try it.

It's great. I initially had mine prescribed by an endocrinologist but now I get it from Boots. I started at a similar weight to you and I lost 2 stone pretty quickly. Now I'm around 15 stone 10 lbs so still a way to go but I feel so much better health wise.

I know how it works! I'm a practice nurse in a GP surgery and prescribe it for a living. Many patients experience more side effects when having fatty or high carb meals so when they have reduced this, the effects of nausea have been reduced and they have been able to tolerate it better.

Can diabetics not use wegovy?

@bakebeans

this drug doesn't like carbs fat and alcohol rather than calories Risk of pancreatitis too.

That's not how ozempic works. 🤦🏻‍♀️

Ozempic works by mimicking a naturally occurring hormone. As those hormone levels rise, the molecules go to your brain, telling it you're full. It also slows digestion by increasing the time it takes for food to leave the body. This is similar to the effect of bariatric surgery.

Not read full thread. I was considering going on it, but the cost was putting me off. I listened to a Michael Mosley podcast during the Feb half-term (Just one thing), and it was one about green tea. I started drinking three cups of green tea every day (I try to do it in the morning), and it seems to be having quite a significant effect on my appetite (whereas it was like a constantly roaring tiger, it is more like it is purring now!). So I have found it much easier to reduce snacks and eat healthily (in the space of about 3-4 weeks I have now lost 10.5 lbs. Still got a long way to go, but I am definitely going to keep on with the green tea, rather than wegovy / ozempic. I have also started eating during an eating window, ie skipping breakfast, and I have found that having a green tea first thing sort of switches off my appetite, and I can now last until maybe 11.30am to have my first meal. Apparently there are other health benefits as well :)

this drug doesn't like carbs fat and alcohol rather than calories Risk of pancreatitis too.

I've been using wegovy for 8 weeks, I'm 25lb down and have been calorie counting. Wegovy has allowed me to stay in calorie deficit. I'd recommend it!

Correct, thats what I said, you have to eat less

Given that lots of people criticise the overweight for eating when they're not hungry, the point Im making is that appetite or no appetite, you still have to eat less. You can still overeat with a small appetite on this medication, off this medication, even having weight loss surgery etc.

So people cant have it both ways, they cant criticise people for using this drug by saying 'oh but you have to look at the reasons you overeat and deal with the emotional side' and the on the other hand view it as a 'quick fix' because the weight falls off because you naturally eat less

If you naturally eat less just by being on the meds, then ergo, you have solved the problem. If you're going to eat emotionally you're going to do that appetite or no appetite.