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To think airports are so stressful lately?

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Kjones27 · 07/03/2024 18:16

Jesus , I used to like travelling. I just find the airport so stressful now, that I'm utterly exhausted by the time I get anywhere. I have british and irish paaaports. I fly on my irish passport which is supposedly slightly easier to fly to the eu is. In my experience, it is not. I still experience standing around in queues for ages.

I feel like they make it as stressful as possible for everyone.

I recently flew from Dublin to Spain.

I didn't have a bag to check in as that would have taken me even longer. So my first queue was the security queue. I was standing in the long security queue for about 30 mins. Put my carry-on bag through. It set off some alarm. Or maybe they were testing bags randomly. I had to wait for a guy to come over empty my bag , put everything back in. Then I went on.

I sat in the departure lounge for about an hour. Then I went to get on the flight. They let everyone go through the desk, then for some reason they made us all stand on the stairs before rhe flight for another 40 mins. Plane was slightly delayed taking off.

I get to spain. We wete made to stand in another queue to show passports here at the spanish airport. This was an extremely long queue, as there were only about four men dealing with hundreds of people from different flights. I stood in this queue for about an hour. Finally got out. And i was just so tired.

Another thing. The last time that I flew from Spain back to Ireland, a Spanish female security officer asked to pat me down.

I said yes, as I'm sure most people do, as we afraid something worse will happen if we say no.

She then patted me all over. Up and down. She patted me In between my thighs.
She then patted both of my breasts. Which I wasn't expecting. She didnt pay between them or under them. She specifically patted each breast. I would say she slightly cupped them.
I really felt violated. I looked online to see if security officers are allowed to pat you there. And it says airport security officers are allowed to touch you anywhere for security reasons. So you are leaving yourself open to be groped just by taking a flight. I just think some security officers take advantage of their ability to touch others though. There are a lot of stories online of women who say they were molested by female security officers.

All in all, its a very stressful experience.

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Kjones27 · 07/03/2024 19:21

I see a lot of women online complaining about being touched in the vagina, on the breasts by airport guards.

Say you're just going on holiday, and a guard touches your vagina on the way out, it's going to cause you a lot of trauma.

We shouldn't have to say through it. But passengers currently have no rights. They're allowed to touch our genitals. How can that be right.

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fliptopbin · 07/03/2024 19:16

I have barious medical conditions, and my last flight has made me realise that I never want to fly again.
Normally I've everything planned with military precision, as I have a colostomy plus a pacemaker like device which means that I have to be patted down.
However, on the way from a package holiday, there were about 6 flights taking off at the same time by Thomas Cook so there was an ungodly queue at security. Before anyone comes at me, I realise that what I did was stupid -I wore a maxi dress with no bra. As I got through the endless queue, by bag was getting fuller, and because O was flustered, I put the paperwork justifying my stoma through the x ray machine.
As I was patted down, the security guard could feel my filling pouch. Inbthe back of my mind, I knew I could be asked to be examined in private, but I could hear other the people in the queue discussing if I was a terrorist, so I felt like I had to clear my good name. I calculated that lifting my skirt would be more discreet than pulling my top down, and the Spanish security guards were satisfied. However, their flamboyant, over the top apologies were almost as embarrassing as the suspicion, and the disgusted comments from my fellow travellers, who were also angry at me for holding up the queue have put me off flying again.

takemeawayagain · 07/03/2024 19:15

Easyjet always seems to line everyone up well before the plane is ready so I always make sure I am last to join the queue. Also as the planes fly to several places a day, the later in the day you fly the more likely your plane will have been held up elsewhere and end up delayed. I've been patted down lots of times but never felt like I was groped thankfully.

deeter · 07/03/2024 19:10

Dh is a pilot. For various reasons he's been having a lot flights which don't return to his home base so he has to stay over and then fly back as a regular passenger which means he can't go through staff security for his return flight.

He's missed about 4 flights in recent times due just due to overall busyness and staff that frankly don't give a damn.

Kjones27 · 07/03/2024 19:10

Twoshoesnewshoes · 07/03/2024 19:09

I’ve recently flown twice, from Gatwick and Heathrow, no long queues and no issues .
Flying back into the UK there were long queues, as we can no longer use the EU passport gates 🥺

I go through the EU gates and there were still massive queues.

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JustWhatWeDontNeed · 07/03/2024 19:09

It's highly variable. Frankfurt security are very miserable and the "pat down" I had there did make me raise an eyebrow.

When I leave Saudi I just have a wand waved at me. London is usually the body scanner. It's highly variable.

Queues also vary hugely. Last time I landed at Heathrow I didn't have to queue at all and was waiting for my bag within 10 minutes of getting off the plane. Other times I've queued half an hour for the eGate.

Customer service in Spain is horrendous, in general. Usually you can use an eGate with an EU passport. Queued for ages with British one.

Twoshoesnewshoes · 07/03/2024 19:09

I’ve recently flown twice, from Gatwick and Heathrow, no long queues and no issues .
Flying back into the UK there were long queues, as we can no longer use the EU passport gates 🥺

Kjones27 · 07/03/2024 19:09

Shortkiwi · 07/03/2024 18:57

I was once ‘patted down’ by a female security officer and it was tantamount to being molested. She felt under my bra, through my clothes and put her hand down the back of my trousers. I told her to stop. Her manager was called and I was offered another check by someone else. I put in a complaint by email but got nowhere. I have never experienced anything like it before or since. I was with my 3 kids and they were watching this, I totally understand your experience OP.

I definitely don't think they're meant to put their hands under your bra. I'm sorry that happened.

Honestly I'd rather take a ferry next time I think.

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Kjones27 · 07/03/2024 19:07

DoodleMum12 · 07/03/2024 19:06

It’s not all bad. Last few weeks I’ve been through 6 airports, including Central America and flew out of Manchester. No issues, no major queues and even in the states where I had a connecting flight it wasn’t too bad (I had to clear security again) I agree that it’s not right having your breasts examined like that!! I wouldn’t have been happy and I’m
sorry to hear it happened to you.

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Thank you.

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Kjones27 · 07/03/2024 19:07

SeatonCarew · 07/03/2024 19:06

I travel and get searched a lot, and I must say I was once searched by a female security officer abroad who I felt was deriving far too much job satisfaction from her task. It's only happened once, but yes, it happens.

Let us hope that the new security systems being rolled out in British airports this summer go at least some way to reducing the stress.

Oh what are they rolling out? I hadn't heard about that.

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Kjones27 · 07/03/2024 19:06

Toottooot · 07/03/2024 19:00

Victim blaming - awa bile yer heid min.

I wonder why some people find it hard to believe that airport security staff might sexually assault people.

Is that because they are in a respected role.

Like police and doctors.

Oh wait police and doctors have raped and sexuallt assaulted people.

I definitely think airport security staff (where you can youch people as part of your job) will attract perverts to the job

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DoodleMum12 · 07/03/2024 19:06

It’s not all bad. Last few weeks I’ve been through 6 airports, including Central America and flew out of Manchester. No issues, no major queues and even in the states where I had a connecting flight it wasn’t too bad (I had to clear security again) I agree that it’s not right having your breasts examined like that!! I wouldn’t have been happy and I’m
sorry to hear it happened to you.

SeatonCarew · 07/03/2024 19:06

I travel and get searched a lot, and I must say I was once searched by a female security officer abroad who I felt was deriving far too much job satisfaction from her task. It's only happened once, but yes, it happens.

Let us hope that the new security systems being rolled out in British airports this summer go at least some way to reducing the stress.

Kjones27 · 07/03/2024 19:05

JMSA · 07/03/2024 18:59

Yeah, you do feel a bit like cattle with the queues.

Yeah you do, don't you!

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Kjones27 · 07/03/2024 19:04

Oblomov24 · 07/03/2024 18:58

I feel exactly the same op. I adore travelling, investigating, booking flights, being in the airport, the whole lot.

I've had very similar experiences to you, on all of my flights for the last few years. Such a shame, ruins it a bit.

I'm sorry that happened to you. It's a really awful feeling. I really think some of them take advantage of their positions.

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DewinDwl · 07/03/2024 19:03

I travel relatively often and yes airports are the opposite of a good time, really.
I am old enough to remember the times when flying was exciting and glamorous and customers were fussed over. Now it's an endless hassle, quality-wise it's a race to the bottom. And yes not everyone is physically able to stand in crowded queues in unventilated rooms for ages.

I agree with the poster above - avoid Manchester Airport at all costs. It's not only shabby and poorly managed, but also overcrowded to the point of unsafety.

DinnaeFashYersel · 07/03/2024 19:03

Pay for fast track and lounges whenever possible. It makes a huge difference.

Toottooot · 07/03/2024 19:00

Victim blaming - awa bile yer heid min.

SeatonCarew · 07/03/2024 19:00

taxguru · 07/03/2024 18:53

Manchester Airport is an absolute hell hole these days, bad enough in terminals 1 and 2 but terminal 3 is probably the worst airport I've ever suffered, and I've been through lots of airports in places like Africa and Egypt where facilities are non existent. What I can never understand is why staff in overseas airports are so much more helpful and friendly, yet those at Manchester seem to love being obstructive, ignorant and generally arrogant for no real reasons. Having to suffer Manchester is one of the reasons I have no real desire to go abroad ever again - whenever I start thinking about it, I remember Manchester and soon decide not to bother.

I completely agree with this, I avoid Manchester whenever possible.

Kjones27 · 07/03/2024 19:00

EmilyTjP · 07/03/2024 18:55

I can’t believe you think the security woman touched you up infront of hundreds of people. She’s just doing her job. She has to check around the bra to make sure nothing is concealed.

Really?

Do a quick Google search. There are HUNDREDS of women online, saying that they were molested by female security guards at airports. Do you think they are all lying.

After it happened to me , I read other stories online. One woman said that the female guard didn't even pat her arms or legs.

She said that the guard went straight so squeeze her boobs and bum and then felt and groped her vagina. She said she felt used like a sexual object.

If there is only one job that exists where you are allowed to touch anybody in every sexual part of their body.

, do you not think that job is going to attract sexual predators?

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JMSA · 07/03/2024 18:59

Yeah, you do feel a bit like cattle with the queues.

Oblomov24 · 07/03/2024 18:58

I feel exactly the same op. I adore travelling, investigating, booking flights, being in the airport, the whole lot.

I've had very similar experiences to you, on all of my flights for the last few years. Such a shame, ruins it a bit.

Shortkiwi · 07/03/2024 18:57

I was once ‘patted down’ by a female security officer and it was tantamount to being molested. She felt under my bra, through my clothes and put her hand down the back of my trousers. I told her to stop. Her manager was called and I was offered another check by someone else. I put in a complaint by email but got nowhere. I have never experienced anything like it before or since. I was with my 3 kids and they were watching this, I totally understand your experience OP.

Deathbyfluffy · 07/03/2024 18:57

Kjones27 · 07/03/2024 18:51

Victim blaming much?

As I said already I had been patted down before , by two different women , and they had respectfully only touched my arms and legs.

That's what I thought I was agreeing to .

Had I known she would feel my breasts, I never would have agreed to it.

I looked it up later when I got home as I felt strange about it. And it did say on some website that if a security officer touches sensitive parts of the body, they are meant to use the back of their hands.

She used the front of her hands on my breasts.

They’re not victim blaming - you’re just being massively dramatic if you genuinely think that’s what they’re doing.

MojoDojoCasaHouse · 07/03/2024 18:57

This is why we go by Eurostar or ferry. I don’t mind planes but absolutely hate airports. Luton was the worst. The queue for passport control was an absolute joke. Luckily a member of staff saw my elderly mother was about to keel over so we got fast tracked through a avoiding hours of queuing.

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