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To bring DD friend away instead of DSD

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2907fe9166a247bb9ghj3 · 04/03/2024 23:13

I’m taking DD11 away in a few months time to Rome for a long weekend. This is a birthday treat for her.

My husband (her dad) will be staying at home with our youngest.

DD asked if a friend could come and after searching for some deals I said she could. This is now booked for me, dd & her friend.

The problem that’s occurred recently is my DSD15 has recently found out I’m taking DD to Rome and has made noises about it being unfair that she’s not coming. DSDs mum has messaged tonight to ask why is DD friend is coming instead of DSD.

Am I being unreasonable taking DD friend? As it’s what my DD wants.

Just incase it gets asked. I paid for this trip out of my own wages, my OH has not paid for it.

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2907fe9166a247bb9ghj3 · 05/03/2024 09:19

ybotsemaj · 05/03/2024 08:54

It boils down to this.

The step-daughter's mother may not be able to afford a trip like that. This makes it unfair in my eyes.

This is the adults' problem to solve.

Respectfully, I have just worked 16 days straight doing extra hours and OT to be able to afford this added luxury for our DD so it doesn’t effect any normal family money.

If It comes down to money then DSD mum can go and get her ass in gear and work to make it happen.

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SD1978 · 05/03/2024 09:17

Not unreasonable. Her dad and her younger sibling aren't going. This isn't a family holiday, it's you, your daughter and her friend.

Bitsiemcgee · 05/03/2024 09:16

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 05/03/2024 09:10

The 15 year old feels like she has been left out treated unfairly. That is a problem that needs to be solved - how is what needs to be determined. Another trip/ a discussion/ something else etc

Then her mum needs to be a good mum and explain that she's had trips and hasn't invited her half siblings and that she's being silly and have a laugh about her complaining with her. Not encouraging it. Maybe dsd might feel silly if she had it pointed out to her like that if she's a nice girl in general, which op hasn't said she isnt

2907fe9166a247bb9ghj3 · 05/03/2024 09:15

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 05/03/2024 09:06

Maybe an opportunity to get to know her friends.
arent you a bit sad that you/ her dad don’t know her friends. Do you not have them over at your house at all? Maybe start small and have a trip out with her and a couple of friends.

I’m not sad that I don’t know her friends well.

We have offered for her to bring her mates around and she has said no but her mates don’t go over her mums house either.

Shes 15, she doesn’t want us to hang around with her when she’s out shopping with her mates.

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MusicMum80s · 05/03/2024 09:15

The 15 year old sounds spoiled. If she goes away with her mother on foreign trips and knows her other sibling (your son) isn’t going as it’s a birthday treat asking to go is super unreasonable. At 15 she should definitely understand why she isn’t invited. I’m hoping it’s a misunderstanding and she just doesn’t have the full picture.

I’d clarify with DaD’s mother to make sure no one is confused but hold firm on not taking her.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 05/03/2024 09:15

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 05/03/2024 09:10

The 15 year old feels like she has been left out treated unfairly. That is a problem that needs to be solved - how is what needs to be determined. Another trip/ a discussion/ something else etc

I agree it's a problem that needs to be sorted. Someone needs to explain to the 15yo that it is not unfair for her half sibling to have trips with her mother to which she is not invited, any more than it is unfair for the 15yo to go on trips with her own mum without her half siblings. This should be pretty straightforward for her to get her head around.

WandaWonder · 05/03/2024 09:14

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 05/03/2024 08:53

Why not the dad?

I was under the impression the mother had the problem with it not the father

OnceinaMinion · 05/03/2024 09:14

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 05/03/2024 08:48

Can dsd get a similar trip instead for her and a friend ?

Yes her mum could organise that. Nothing stopping her.
OP has organised and paid for her a trip for her DD, the ex could do the same.

I don’t even see why DH has to make it up to her, he isn’t going, it’s a separate thing.

Everything OP does with her children does not have to be replicated with SC, she’s allowed to have her own relationship with her own children. Excluding her from a family holiday is entirely different.

I grew up in a large family, we went on different trips and holidays. It’s normal.

BMW6 · 05/03/2024 09:13

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 05/03/2024 09:10

The 15 year old feels like she has been left out treated unfairly. That is a problem that needs to be solved - how is what needs to be determined. Another trip/ a discussion/ something else etc

But the 15 year old has been taken abroad many times by her own mum and the OP's dd wasn't invited along!

They seem to want it all one way only.

WandaWonder · 05/03/2024 09:12

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 05/03/2024 09:10

The 15 year old feels like she has been left out treated unfairly. That is a problem that needs to be solved - how is what needs to be determined. Another trip/ a discussion/ something else etc

A mother is taking her child on a holiday, the 15yo can discuss this with her mother and father it is not up to the op to do anything she has not done anything wrong

2907fe9166a247bb9ghj3 · 05/03/2024 09:12

All kids have had ‘big’ birthday parties in the past.

All kids have had days out in the past to places such as legoland, Thorpe park, Alton towers for their birthdays at some point.

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SoOutingWhoCares · 05/03/2024 09:11

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 05/03/2024 09:02

No, they should balance out trips in their family. What the other parents do is up to them and does not need to be covered.
balancing it out could be the son getting trips with each of his parents and doesn’t necessarily need to be straight away but in upcoming years.

But it's not a son.

It's a daughter.

That makes all the difference.

Boys trip v one man on his own with two teenage girls (DSD plus another female child and a man on his own). Understandably he would be uncomfortable with that and many parents wouldn't allow their 15/16 year old daughter to go abroad with a man. Not to mention sleeping arrangements etc.

She gets family holidays with both parents.

OPs dd never has until now.

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 05/03/2024 09:10

Bitsiemcgee · 05/03/2024 09:06

Except there IS no problem to solve

The 15 year old feels like she has been left out treated unfairly. That is a problem that needs to be solved - how is what needs to be determined. Another trip/ a discussion/ something else etc

2907fe9166a247bb9ghj3 · 05/03/2024 09:10

BungleandGeorge · 05/03/2024 08:56

What happens when it’s his daughter’s birthday? If you’re treating the children vastly differently then that is very unfair. What you do with your son is irrelevant to this particular issue as is how her mum treats her. Taking a friend abroad for an 11th birthday is a quite unusually large treat for one child of the family. It’s fine to say that you’ll do equivalent for each at some point before they’re 16 and let them choose large party etc but it’s not fine to favour one

You say ‘if you are treating the children vastly differently then it’s unfair’

Then you go on to say what I do with my son is irrelevant.

Im guessing my son also needs a birthday trip abroad as my son is not irrelevant in this situation at all.

If I’m willing to leave our son behind with his dad then I’m also willing to leave DSD behind.

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Bitsiemcgee · 05/03/2024 09:06

ybotsemaj · 05/03/2024 08:54

It boils down to this.

The step-daughter's mother may not be able to afford a trip like that. This makes it unfair in my eyes.

This is the adults' problem to solve.

Except there IS no problem to solve

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 05/03/2024 09:06

2907fe9166a247bb9ghj3 · 05/03/2024 09:04

He wouldn’t take DSD away with a friend. He would take DSD away but not the friend as well as he/we are not close to her friends like we are for our DD friend.

DSD went to a different secondary school then most of her primary friends so she made new friends at secondary level and as anyone with teens can imagine the are not the most talkative to parents.

He wouldn’t feel comfortable.

Maybe an opportunity to get to know her friends.
arent you a bit sad that you/ her dad don’t know her friends. Do you not have them over at your house at all? Maybe start small and have a trip out with her and a couple of friends.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 05/03/2024 09:06

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 05/03/2024 09:02

No, they should balance out trips in their family. What the other parents do is up to them and does not need to be covered.
balancing it out could be the son getting trips with each of his parents and doesn’t necessarily need to be straight away but in upcoming years.

Yes, I agree that they should balance it out in their own family. So, both girls will have been on trips with their mum. The younger ds should also get a trip with his mum at some point in the future. That would be fair.

If dad decides to do any trips with any of his children, then he should ensure that he does the same for each child.

Andthereyougo · 05/03/2024 09:04

Your DDs birthday treat so her choice of who goes with you both.
Two 11 year olds on a birthday treat us very different to and 11 year old and a15 year old. I’d have thought a 15 year old would understand that.

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 05/03/2024 09:04

So many double standards where the mum is the step mum versus posts where it is the dad who is the step parent.

2907fe9166a247bb9ghj3 · 05/03/2024 09:04

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 05/03/2024 08:53

Why not the dad?

He wouldn’t take DSD away with a friend. He would take DSD away but not the friend as well as he/we are not close to her friends like we are for our DD friend.

DSD went to a different secondary school then most of her primary friends so she made new friends at secondary level and as anyone with teens can imagine the are not the most talkative to parents.

He wouldn’t feel comfortable.

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LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 05/03/2024 09:02

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 05/03/2024 08:59

So if the dad has to balance out any trips or treats offered to the 11yo by her mother, by offering comparable trips or treats for the 15yo, does he also have to balance out any trips or treats offered to the 15yo by her mother, by offering comparable trips or treats to the 11yo?

As it could seem that they are being treated unequally otherwise, with one child getting twice as many trips and treats?

No, they should balance out trips in their family. What the other parents do is up to them and does not need to be covered.
balancing it out could be the son getting trips with each of his parents and doesn’t necessarily need to be straight away but in upcoming years.

SadnessInMyIntestines · 05/03/2024 09:01

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 05/03/2024 08:59

It is a trip being arranged as part of her dads family and not her mums. In order to keep it fair each child in the family should get a trip with a parent.

It doesn’t involve any of her parents, though.

This Is a mother / daughter trip, not funded by DSD’s dad. If DSD wants her own trip, her mother can arrange one.

It would be different if her dad was involved at all. He isn’t.

Futb0l · 05/03/2024 09:00

The step-daughter's mother may not be able to afford a trip like that. This makes it unfair in my eyes.

It is not a stepmothers problem to make up for the DSDs lower earnings.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 05/03/2024 08:59

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 05/03/2024 08:52

I do agree that her dad could offer her a similar birthday treat though. As it could seem like they are being treated unequally otherwise. It’s not fair as you are paying but kids don’t see it that way.

So if the dad has to balance out any trips or treats offered to the 11yo by her mother, by offering comparable trips or treats for the 15yo, does he also have to balance out any trips or treats offered to the 15yo by her mother, by offering comparable trips or treats to the 11yo?

As it could seem that they are being treated unequally otherwise, with one child getting twice as many trips and treats?

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 05/03/2024 08:59

SadnessInMyIntestines · 05/03/2024 08:55

The dad isn’t arranging this trip. If he arranged one for his older daughter, he’d have to do something for his other children as well, to be fair.

This is a mother / daughter trip. If DSD wants the same, her mother should arrange it.

Dad has nothing to do with it.

It is a trip being arranged as part of her dads family and not her mums. In order to keep it fair each child in the family should get a trip with a parent.

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