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scatteredgreymatter · 04/03/2024 10:13

Posting for traffic, sorry.

I am basically pretty sure I have ADHD but I don't want to commit to a life time of medication, don't want to wait 3 years to find out for sure, and don't have a grand to spend on an only semi useful private diagnosis.

So - has anyone seen a private therapist online that they would recommend? I think CBT could really help.

What about these apps, Inflow, etc? Are they any good?

I am looking for something a bit more of a commitment than other coping mechanisms, like write lists. I've tried a lot of different lists app. I think I need something at least partially therapy based.

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FearNotSheHathRisen · 10/01/2025 14:26

ThatEllie · 10/01/2025 13:35

Can you get rhodiola where you live? It’s a supplement that helps with ADHD. When I’m not taking meds I’ll take rhodiola and a caffeine pill which gives me a milder focus.

Thanks so much for the suggestion - I'll check it out as I've not heard about that. All suggestions gratefully received!

Discombobble · 10/01/2025 13:41

FearNotSheHathRisen · 10/01/2025 13:28

I know this is a really old thread, but my goodness, how all of this resonates deeply and OP, I feel like you and I share the same brain, and the same frustrations.

I'd love to know if there are any other threads like this, full of wisdom, kindness and tips?

I have just read this thread too and it resonates a lot with me - and describes one of my children! Very interesting

ThatEllie · 10/01/2025 13:35

Can you get rhodiola where you live? It’s a supplement that helps with ADHD. When I’m not taking meds I’ll take rhodiola and a caffeine pill which gives me a milder focus.

FearNotSheHathRisen · 10/01/2025 13:28

I know this is a really old thread, but my goodness, how all of this resonates deeply and OP, I feel like you and I share the same brain, and the same frustrations.

I'd love to know if there are any other threads like this, full of wisdom, kindness and tips?

melchim · 08/03/2024 20:16

A huge thing for me was acceptance. Learning to be kind to myself, accepting and finding peace with my limitations. Often dropping the bar of my own expectations. Finding hacks, but then knowing the hacks will always stop working and I will need new ones. I always want a forever solution, and then crash when they eventually stop working.

This is the most resonant thing for me from @MrsMikeHeck.

When you say you work from home, that set off alarm bells for me, and hearing you wonder if you're lazy because you can't get things done. I tried medication, it wasn't that helpful for me. In the end I realised I was in a job that really didn't fit my style (content creation, social media management). There wasn't a lot of detailed structure and external accountability - I had to set small goals and find my own strategies.

I have now changed careers to a job with VERY high structure and accountability and lo and behold, I'm incredibly productive and good at my job. Being so busy and productive has made me more careful to stay on top of other things like medical appointments because I have times built into the day to check over calendars etc.

Obviously you can't easily change jobs or change your living situation etc but at least go easy on yourself and consider, maybe I'm fine but it's my circumstances that aren't ideal for my brain. It might make you happier to take a bit of that perspective.

FluffletheMeow · 07/03/2024 12:49

scatteredgreymatter · 07/03/2024 10:04

I think mine said the same. Daydreams, doesn't focus. I was bright though and still did well. Also because I could hyperfocus in exams when there really wasn't another option, i've always been like that - at the 11th hour when it is no longer optional, I can pull my finger out. The other thing that really rings a bell is getting lots of A for attainment, and then the lowest grade for effort. Because of the daydreaming.

This is me. My school reports are full of "very bright but...". I struggled with coursework and usually handed in something very half-arsed done the night before (or often after, after much shouting) the deadline. With the adrenaline of exams, I did well.

Because I was painfully shy, and lived in a daydream, most teachers didn't really notice I existed, but those that did wrote me off as lazy. And I think I internalized it.

I was only when it was something that really did matter to me (namely looking after my son) and I was still struggling and being accused of being lazy, that I started to question the label.

scatteredgreymatter · 07/03/2024 11:54

PollyRuby · 07/03/2024 11:31

@scatteredgreymatter I'm like this. Perform really well "under pressure at last minute" but rapidly realising it's because I'm not motivated to start until o have to. Yet make myself feel sick with fear frequently about not being organised and live in a chaotic house and with children who can't organise themselves. I hate myself for being like this.

I don't live in a chaotic house because DH is too strict with me for that to happen, and really pulls his weight, plus I have help in the home and they keep us on the straight and narrow. As a child/at university I lived like a little piglet with the messiest bedroom imaginable. I have actually managed to successfully change that aspect of myself and am now on the most part a tidy person who prefers not to live in mess.

I guess this shows that I can do it. I think being junior at work was better as was just told what to do and when by. I now need DH to be my boss at work too, like in the home. Basically I do much better with supervision.

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Wflwer · 07/03/2024 11:34

scatteredgreymatter · 07/03/2024 09:50

I also get things done better at night, that's when I've always done work. In fact, when I was single/childless and worked in an office, I would dick about the entire day and then have really productive hours between 3-7pm and often later. I'd often log on late at night at home and power through some stuff that I just couldn't get done at other times. However, now my DH wants to go to bed at 10pm and I want to be a productive human like him, so I try and do it too. My time to spend with my kids is basically most of the other time I used to be productive. So now I'm just left with the dicking around the entire day, not catching up as I used to, and hating myself for it!!!

I don't want to go back to how I was though. I want to sleep at night and work in the day. Is there any hope of training myself?!?!

Honestly I’m not sure - I know I’ll need to fix my patterns as my baby gets older and more mobile etc but currently I quite literally nap when she naps because when she’s asleep I do all the cleaning and even do things like meal prep at 11 oclock at night haha. So even if I got to bed at 2 and she has me up at 7:30 I know I’ll have another sleep in the day.

JordanPeterson · 07/03/2024 11:33

A solid cleaning tip is to take something from each room you are in to tidy it

So when you walk from room to room always do a quick scan to pick something up or put it away

Once you get into the habit of this it becomes easier over time

I find this drastically helps with keeping things in order & creating less of a messy trail

PollyRuby · 07/03/2024 11:31

@scatteredgreymatter I'm like this. Perform really well "under pressure at last minute" but rapidly realising it's because I'm not motivated to start until o have to. Yet make myself feel sick with fear frequently about not being organised and live in a chaotic house and with children who can't organise themselves. I hate myself for being like this.

seriouslynonames · 07/03/2024 10:20

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Permanentlyunimpressed · 07/03/2024 10:10

Yep, I did well too but all last minute cramming. My memory is my biggest problem! I regularly forget colleagues names which is embarrassing, I have a real problem with names.
When I went on to do professional exams I vividly remember my entire lounge being covered in notes, like one of those scenes from a crime drama Grin

scatteredgreymatter · 07/03/2024 10:04

Permanentlyunimpressed · 07/03/2024 08:06

Interestingly my old school reports helped put the puzzle together. I am in my 50's and there was no ADHD when I was at school. If you were disruptive you were expelled.
My parents downsized when I was in my 40's and gave me a box of old school stuff. My reports repeatedly stated 'daydreamer', 'talks too much', 'easily distracted '. They actually helped me realise I had ADHD and wasn't just a crap human being. Spent my whole life thinking I had a personality disorder/depression etc. No idea why my parents kept them but I'm glad they did

I think mine said the same. Daydreams, doesn't focus. I was bright though and still did well. Also because I could hyperfocus in exams when there really wasn't another option, i've always been like that - at the 11th hour when it is no longer optional, I can pull my finger out. The other thing that really rings a bell is getting lots of A for attainment, and then the lowest grade for effort. Because of the daydreaming.

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scatteredgreymatter · 07/03/2024 09:50

Wflwer · 07/03/2024 01:41

I live off of a calendar on my kitchen wall!! It’s in a place where I see it every time I leave the kitchen and it’s a godsend. I always lose planners or lose interest in them or just forget about them in general but the calendar I can always see.

if I need to tackle a big cleaning task I give myself hours or days to tackle it not all at once. Had a huge spare room clear out and decided to do it over three days set myself one task that needed to be finished each day and made it my most dreaded task - I procrastinated by doing other tasks to avoid doing the one I dreaded but had to do the dreaded task as it was my one goal for the day.

I don’t do my own washing - I send it to the laundrette. I forget about it or I live off clothes horses for weeks on end. I even take my babies stuff there. They’ll wash, dry and fold it all so I only have to take it home and put it away and can generally get it done by the evening if I put it in in the morning.

If I need a break I need a break. I live far from family and don’t have a lot of support around me so my daughter goes to nursery one day a week while I’m on mat leave. I drop her off at 8 and pick her up between 5:30-6 and i lay in bed and rot most of the day. It’s great, it’s quiet and I can just relax and deal with any burn out.

Understanding I get things done better at night. My peak times are between 11pm-2am, I used to get up early to get ahead on tasks till I realised that wasn’t actually working as there were too many distractions but everyone’s asleep between 11 and 2 so it’s perfect.

Most importantly though - I don’t feel guilty about saying my ADD makes things really hard because it does.

I also get things done better at night, that's when I've always done work. In fact, when I was single/childless and worked in an office, I would dick about the entire day and then have really productive hours between 3-7pm and often later. I'd often log on late at night at home and power through some stuff that I just couldn't get done at other times. However, now my DH wants to go to bed at 10pm and I want to be a productive human like him, so I try and do it too. My time to spend with my kids is basically most of the other time I used to be productive. So now I'm just left with the dicking around the entire day, not catching up as I used to, and hating myself for it!!!

I don't want to go back to how I was though. I want to sleep at night and work in the day. Is there any hope of training myself?!?!

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Permanentlyunimpressed · 07/03/2024 08:06

HoppingPavlova · 04/03/2024 14:30

Why don’t you want to go back through school reports….

Off topic, but I’m now fascinated. People keep their school reports? Why? Do they have a school report review day once a year, or decade or something?

My school reports were never kept. In several decades I’ve never once been asked for them (why?). I never kept my kids. The last one got thrown out when the new one was received. Then, at the end of school they went to uni so what good would reports do? Even if they hadn’t gone to uni they would have received leaving certificates with subjects and levels achieved. As each kid graduates, as part of the clean up process, leaving cert also goes as why would they need this when they have a degree? Where do people keep all this shit?

Any diagnoses my kids have had were made while they were at school, and even then the teachers were given realms of targeted questionnaires, we never had to provide school reports as they did their own educational testing as part of the path to diagnosis. How is the fact you got a B in maths at 10yo or a bunch of subjective criteria relevant?

Interestingly my old school reports helped put the puzzle together. I am in my 50's and there was no ADHD when I was at school. If you were disruptive you were expelled.
My parents downsized when I was in my 40's and gave me a box of old school stuff. My reports repeatedly stated 'daydreamer', 'talks too much', 'easily distracted '. They actually helped me realise I had ADHD and wasn't just a crap human being. Spent my whole life thinking I had a personality disorder/depression etc. No idea why my parents kept them but I'm glad they did

Cozytoesandtoast00 · 07/03/2024 06:27

The biggest thing that helped me was listening to Dr Hubermans ADHD episode (podcast)
A neuroscientist from Harvard. He’s having a big moment in the health field.
He’s very thorough and comprehensive.
I don’t take meds for various reasons.

DataColour · 07/03/2024 06:23

We are still waiting for a diagnosis for my 15yr old DS, but the thing that works for him is cardiovascular exercise. He is like a different person after he goes running. Luckily he loves running.

Nonewclothes2024 · 07/03/2024 06:16

Mayorhumdinger19 · 04/03/2024 13:06

I think a good definer will be commit to the therapy….if you make every appointment on time and are able to follow through PROPERLY hand on heart with all the exercises set after the sessions and are fully able to engage for the whole session….then I think that will go some way to telling you that you may not actually have ADHD.

As someone who has ADHD the thought of adding something extra into my life on a weekly basis, which I have to fully engage with, show up on time for and be able remember the sessions to implement anything helpful I might gain from the therapy so much that it becomes habit - is hilarious to me!! And if you have what you think is the inattentive format then you will probably agree.

I came to say this. Also bullet points- I can write them, but I leave the lists unfinished.
I'm diagnosed, never found anything useful.
May try the caffeine.

Wflwer · 07/03/2024 01:41

I live off of a calendar on my kitchen wall!! It’s in a place where I see it every time I leave the kitchen and it’s a godsend. I always lose planners or lose interest in them or just forget about them in general but the calendar I can always see.

if I need to tackle a big cleaning task I give myself hours or days to tackle it not all at once. Had a huge spare room clear out and decided to do it over three days set myself one task that needed to be finished each day and made it my most dreaded task - I procrastinated by doing other tasks to avoid doing the one I dreaded but had to do the dreaded task as it was my one goal for the day.

I don’t do my own washing - I send it to the laundrette. I forget about it or I live off clothes horses for weeks on end. I even take my babies stuff there. They’ll wash, dry and fold it all so I only have to take it home and put it away and can generally get it done by the evening if I put it in in the morning.

If I need a break I need a break. I live far from family and don’t have a lot of support around me so my daughter goes to nursery one day a week while I’m on mat leave. I drop her off at 8 and pick her up between 5:30-6 and i lay in bed and rot most of the day. It’s great, it’s quiet and I can just relax and deal with any burn out.

Understanding I get things done better at night. My peak times are between 11pm-2am, I used to get up early to get ahead on tasks till I realised that wasn’t actually working as there were too many distractions but everyone’s asleep between 11 and 2 so it’s perfect.

Most importantly though - I don’t feel guilty about saying my ADD makes things really hard because it does.

Anotherparkingthread · 07/03/2024 00:32

scatteredgreymatter · 05/03/2024 00:52

Thank you, your message is really encouraging! Well done. Are you on meds?

I am particularly struggling with work atm. But if it wasn't that it would be my personal life (young kids, 2 x full time jobs). I can't do both really. I wfh and should be able to but I spend a lot of days staring at my screen not able to start anything. It's currently quite a self directed role with not much accountability which is terrible for me.

Hey sorry for the delay replying.

It's going to sound cliche but just start the thing. Honestly just jump in and force yourself to start it. Once you do it will be much easier. I find with exercise the dread of doing it and build up is worse than just starting! It's another really good thing to practice because eventually you procrastinate less and just jump in to get things over and done with.

Don't be too hard on yourself with two kids and a full time job. Could you try slowing things down and just spending time being present? I often have to remind myself to just slow down and breath and that the world won't end if I'm not going at 110 percent. I try to practice some simple living things as well, walks in the park, cheap snacks and a TV show etc. but really stay present for them and enjoy the moment, otherwise it feels like another thing thats rushed past me or taken for granted. I find my mood improves a lot if I actually take time for these things instead of distractedly thinking about other things I need to do or feeling bad about what I haven't done etc.

I don't take any daytime medication I do take prescription sleeping pills as I really struggle with insomnia and switching off. If I don't sleep I'm utterly useless too. Obviously I've had to have a specialist prescribe these as I'm on them long term.

Muffintopper · 06/03/2024 23:40

Following! 💖

PollyRuby · 06/03/2024 21:21

FlyingUnicornWings · 04/03/2024 16:18

oh and join the women with adhd Facebook group you’ll get LOADS of tips and advice over there.

I've found a couple of groups? Which is it please ?

scatteredgreymatter · 05/03/2024 00:52

Anotherparkingthread · 04/03/2024 15:35

I have ADHD and Im actually pretty good at balancing everything.

I make a list every night before bed. It's more so that I can info dump everything I need to do tomorrow and stop worrying or thinking about it. It helps me sleep, I won't forget because it's all written down and I feel I processed it and can leave it until the time comes. I actually just do it on a chat with myself on my phone (duel sim I message my other number).

I'm bad for starting tasks and not finishing them. I've found it's a bit like a muscle. You have to start small and flex your ability to finish what you start. I started with getting to the end of 10 minutes yoga sessions and I it's culminated in a finished book (writing one not reading) earlier this year.

The same thing is true of attention span you can improve it with a bit of practice, it is frustrating though.

Yoga is really helpful. I've done running as well but I detest it and it's boring, the yoga took me around a year to fully learn to contain my thoughts to the present and be present on the mat but when I got it down I was so grateful I'd stuck at it.

Sometimes I let myself be as distractable and indecisive as I want. I take a day to myself and let the ADHD run rampant. It's hard containing it all the time, if you try you will burn out. You can't punish yourself for being you and you will waste energy trying, and then feel like you failed, of course you didn't, but it will feel like that. Instead, giving yourself time to decompress and be yourself will give you balance.

Is there anything in particular you are struggling with?

Thank you, your message is really encouraging! Well done. Are you on meds?

I am particularly struggling with work atm. But if it wasn't that it would be my personal life (young kids, 2 x full time jobs). I can't do both really. I wfh and should be able to but I spend a lot of days staring at my screen not able to start anything. It's currently quite a self directed role with not much accountability which is terrible for me.

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medianewbie · 04/03/2024 17:35

Fruitystones · 04/03/2024 14:49

I take ADHD meds because at my point of diagnosis and prescription, I had tried everything to improve myself and work through my struggles and nothing was helping. After multiple misdiagnosis I was diagnosed with severe combined ADHD two years ago. My body isn't hyperactive but my brain is both hyperactive and impulsive.

I tried CBT and it didn't work for me at all, so I did normal counselling to help offload any stressors and help build routines that worked for me. I plan to do DBT next, as that focusses more on emotional regulation than behaviours and thought processes but we're relocating soon, so I'm delaying until then. I'm hoping that DBT will allow me to reduce my medication.

Meds help but they're not a magic cure all. I do a lot every day to help bridge the deficits I have :

Supplements: I take a high dose of omega 3 and a high dose of vitamin D. I also use a magnesium moisturiser most nights.

Diet:
I eat regularly. I aim for 3 meals and two snacks a day because I struggle with interoception and often don't recognise I'm hungry until I'm at the point I feel nauseous or dizzy with hunger.

I try to eat as balanced a diet as possible, and try to include all food groups in the majority of my meals.

I've found massively reducing the amount of sugar and ultra processed foods I consume really helps (although it takes a while to see results).

I also don't drink alcohol, or caffeine as I find those make my ADHD worse.

Routine:
I try to go to bed at the same time and I have an alarm to get me up at the same time every morning.

I write down all major tasks that will need doing the night before. I will also list a few small, easily achievable tasks as well. That means that even on really bad days I can look at the list and see I've achieved something which means I'm more likely to be able to push through the more difficult tasks I need to do.

After my daughter is ready for school, I put a load of washing in and dry it.

I try to cook dinner so that it's ready for between 5.30 and 6 every evening.

I have alarms set on my phone to remind me to shower and brush my teeth because otherwise there are some days I just get distracted and forget or endlessly procrastinate because I know I should do it but my brain won't let me.

I always feel a lot better if I get up and dressed in the morning. It helps me feel more motivated and makes a clear line between "rest" and "productivity"

I aim to go out at least once a day for some fresh air and exercise, as this massively helps with being able to complete tasks.

I ditch all screens for an hour before bed. I usually read or colour to wind down.

I also have an hour a night to myself to just "be" and re regulate. When I go through periods of high stress, my sleep goes out of the window, and I often won't sleep until after 2am, so my husband will take our daughter out for a few hours at the weekend so that I can catch up on sleep.

Written down everything probably sounds really extreme and OTT. And it probably sounds quite restrictive. But my routine just fits into every day life. I'm happy to break routine if anything comes up or if we're doing something else, like going on holiday or eating out etc.

Ultimately though, I need the structure to be able to function properly, and I need the medication to function properly. They go hand in hand with each other and you can tell when either of them are missing.

THANK YOU for posting this ! My Ds (19) was NHS dx ASD, Clinical Anxiety & Dyslexia aged 12 (all are quite severe but we lived in an area that 'didn't diagnosed in Primary'). I am quite clear he also has ADHD but GP won't refer. I am looking for what I can do to support him without ADHD meds. He doesn't sleep well either.

Isitbedtimeyet3 · 04/03/2024 16:18

CBT was life changing for me (diagnosed ADHD)