Teacher arrested for attempted murder

The responses on here are so different from Couzens, Letby, etc.

as for the post about having this removed as it may impact the trial, look through all the other threads of similar cases. Just because he’s a teacher doesn’t mean people should be silenced.

This - 100%

I'm a nurse in a high security prison - we have hundreds of murderers , rapists , paedophiles , terrorists

They come from all walks of life and are exactly the same as any person you meet out in the community - pleasant , polite , charming , funny , helpful, respectful

There are a small number of course who put the hairs on the back of my neck at full attention and some dead behind the eyes but it's a huge eye opener how " normal " any murderer can be

This is no reflection on the school at all so your fears are unfounded

It's clearly not acceptable which the children will deduce if they hadn't already from the fact he's been arrested and will serve a lengthy prison sentence.....

Well said.
Sensationalising a dreadful attack like this is unnecessary. You should be reassessing your daughter and putting the situation into context.
If you’re that concerned that the school is going to morph into some sort of mob rule situation then you’d better educate her yourself at home.

*Violent people. It’s not just men, let’s not forget Lucy Letby and the like!

Quote them. Because I’ve seen about 3 post that mention mental health may have played a part and not one of those posts used it as a defence for his actions. I’ve seen more posts making sarcastic comments about the number of people using mental health as a defence than I have seen actually using mental health as a defence.

But, as far as public perception goes, that was an issue with one particular set of people in one trust.

I disagree with that, look at the maternity scandals etc but either way it’s going off a tangent. My point was the weird dismissing of the OP.

So because of this your teen will follow his example and stab someone. Okaaaay...

OP. It’s easy when something happens around us for it to feel like it happened to us, that it’s our tragedy. But it isn’t. This man did nothing to your DD and it’s unlikely she was at any risk. This tragedy belongs to the poor woman who has been attacked. Sadly, it doesn’t show teachers are violent but that yet again, men are.

Bullying of teachers by SLT is normal. Bullying of teachers by parents and children is accepted. A culture which disrespects teachers destroys good behaviour and encourages bad. So it goes.

What does the above have to do with the OP? The man was a victim?

Report states he is not considered a threat to the community at large - it doesn’t say much, but I am inferring this was a domestic.

Shocking though it is, it implies nothing about anyone who was in detention with him nor his fellow staff/school culture.

You need to calm down and reassure your child rather than feed her the narrative that she is lucky not to have been harmed. That will put the fear of god into her, when it is a parent’s job to reassure and help children understand the world. MH crises and domestic violence happens in all walks of life - and that is the conversation you should be (calmly, rationally) having with her and your fellow parents.

But, as far as public perception goes, that was an issue with one particular set of people in one trust.

The police issue, is in all forces and on TV. Is that culture goes right through the NHS that should be highlighted.

If people outside the NHS dont know about it, their perception would be different.

The culture of the police has been like that for a long time and it's being highlighted. Its not the odd police officer co.mitinf a crime. Which again, is why you can't compare the 2.

Public perception and public knowledge of the police, NHS and teachers are all different.

To add context to the other side of this. Last year a Yr 11 boy threatened to stab me, was known to carry a knife and take drugs. Nothing was done because he was considered vulnerable. So I had to continue to teach him for another six months, constantly having nightmares about him doing to me what that boy did to his poor French teacher a few years ago.

Male violence and entitlement is the problem. Not teachers. This year I have been sworn at, had sexually intimidating jokes made about me, had a male student track me down to my house and been threatened with stabbing (different kid this time). But it is okay because they are just kids RIGHT!

So don’t worry. Teacher’s authority is already in the bin.

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Wild the number of people who are so desperate to take an opposite opinion on here that they are immediately dismissing the attempted murder of a woman in broad daylight by a man who has just clocked off from his teaching job as mental health issues

It’s a big disturbing!

It's the fact that culture has supported them. That groups of police officers are acting in disgusting ways and not even hiding it. The covering up accusations of serious crimes. Its the culture of the Police.

The NHS had quite the culture of covering up but I wouldn’t say Lucy Letby was the norm or representative of nurses either.

I know someone who worked at the school where a pupil stabbed and killed a well loved teacher (very famous case).
it didn’t start a spate of copycat crimes, cause people to use it as an excuse or affect the schools behaviour policies, or anything like that.
they were all really sad and traumatised but pulled together as a community to get through it.
i think you are being a bit inwards looking about this op. There are people capable of committing violent crimes from all walks of life, and for many different reasons.

Wild the number of people who are so desperate to take an opposite opinion on here that they are immediately dismissing the attempted murder of a woman in broad daylight by a man who has just clocked off from his teaching job as mental health issues 🙃

Why is the trust and safety in the school, gone?

Bullying of teachers by SLT is normal. Bullying of teachers by parents and children is accepted. A culture which disrespects teachers destroys good behaviour and encourages bad. So it goes.

Ohh how sensitive and defensive of us snowflake teachers not wanting to be lumped in with an attempted murderer

I certainly don’t think it’s common for teachers to behave like this & wouldn’t lump them all together but I can still acknowledge the OP rather than lambast her for daring to even start the thread.

Oh I know unfortunately.

I think there's a distinct difference.

The issues people have with the police aren't that individual police officers commit awful crime.

It's the fact that culture has supported them. That groups of police officers are acting in disgusting ways and not even hiding it. The covering up accusations of serious crimes. Its the culture of the Police.

If a police officer committed a crime and the police force hadn't been turning a blind eye, then you could compare the 2.

Maybe it is like that with schools. I do t work in one so don't know. But schools and LAs arent all over the news for ignoring criminal behaviour committed by their teachers. That's why its different.

No it it the behaviour of the less intelligent ones rather than normal.

Anyway apparently she will have a great career in the police because she can already spot a wrong 'un.

Your whole opening post is ridiculous and sounds like the sort of conversation that is no doubt at being had at the school gates amongst those with nothing better to talk about.

Ohh how sensitive and defensive of us snowflake teachers not wanting to be lumped in with an attempted murderer