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Food orders for work related events are to be vegan and vegetarian only

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ValerieVomit · 01/03/2024 12:58

We all received an email at work to say that when we order catering in future for work related events we can only order vegetarian and vegan food. The management team has imposed this. It's to reduce our carbon footprint. I don't think that this means there is to be no carnivorous food available for the rest of the organisation but our department won't allow us to order any.

Reasonable or not?

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justteanbiscuits · 01/03/2024 19:46

Treesnbirds · 01/03/2024 19:18

Omg!! Blush
"If a poor sad animal hasn't suffered and died for this meal then I'm NOT eating it!" Angry

People are insane. If the live animals were lined up on the buffet table and people had to kill them themselves you can bet it would be a different story.

I found it hilarious! It weren't any "weird" foods, no tofu or even quinoa. It was mainly cheese and egg based. No fake meats. If there was a lump of ham on the table, they would have happily eaten all the vegetarian options there. Apparently we shouldn't force our politics on others - it was OUR wedding FFS!

ZebraPensAreLife · 01/03/2024 19:46

Vegan cheese is another one everyone gets worked up about, people behaving like cheddar is some kind of pure health food but a cheese spread made from almonds is poison.

I can understand people getting worked up about vegan cheese. I have quite a few friends who are vegan and most of them avoid it on the grounds that it’s largely horrible.

Thementalloadisreal · 01/03/2024 19:43

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 01/03/2024 19:20

It's interesting how many people associate vegan food with UPF. I assume that this is because of the recent trend towards veganism and the growth in fake meat products.

I'm not a vegan but I have had lots of wonderful vegan food over the years that has been made with lovely, fresh, good quality ingredients. It doesn't have to be fake burgers!!

Yes I’m always surprised that people jump to UPF.
Vegan food is essentially vegetables, fruit, legumes, grains… most whole foods.

The new “vegan food” is supplementary/optional on top of that and actually very similar to heavily processed non vegan food. UPF is a food issue, not a vegan food issue.

People get very cross about a vegan sausage but we all know meat sausages are horrendous for health, animals and environment.
Vegan cheese is another one everyone gets worked up about, people behaving like cheddar is some kind of pure health food but a cheese spread made from almonds is poison.

Cerealkiller4U · 01/03/2024 19:41

Changedasouting · 01/03/2024 13:07

As some one who medically needs a high protien low carb diet I would struggle and need to educate my self on high protien vegan options tbh

Lentils

i have a high calorie diet and that’s a good way.

Trufflump · 01/03/2024 19:41

derxa · 01/03/2024 19:33

My sheep eat grass and silage

Exactly they eat silage. Where silage is grown we could grow food for humans instead of food for sheep which will only turn 10% of those calories into lamb.

Cerealkiller4U · 01/03/2024 19:40

BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted · 01/03/2024 13:03

Reasonable, but not for the reason given.

Meat-eaters can (and do) consume vegan and vegetarian foods but not vice versa, so offering foods everyone can enjoy seems fair.

Eating meat is not good for carbon footprint though so their reasoning is actually spot on

crackofdoom · 01/03/2024 19:38

marchintospring
I'm sure if Colin from Accounts is doing some kind of manly ultra- paleo all meat diet, then your average corporate buffet wouldn't have much for him. You don't see many paleolithic cave drawings of sausage rolls, after all.

ZebraPensAreLife · 01/03/2024 19:36

I’m amazed that so many grown adults can’t seem to countenance not eating meat or fish for the odd meal.

Corporate catering doesn’t cater for fussy eaters (as opposed to those with allergies, who should of course be catered for) at the best of times, so surely if you have such a restricted diet that you won’t eat anything vegetarian or vegan you’d bring your own stuff anyway?

derxa · 01/03/2024 19:33

Trufflump · 01/03/2024 14:14

Do you think those beef and lamb are totally grass fed with no other feed given to them? They’d be pretty scrawny if that were true.

My sheep eat grass and silage

Marchintospring · 01/03/2024 19:32

BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted · 01/03/2024 13:03

Reasonable, but not for the reason given.

Meat-eaters can (and do) consume vegan and vegetarian foods but not vice versa, so offering foods everyone can enjoy seems fair.

Some people only eat meat.
It's a super food. You can survive very well on just a beef cow but you need a wide range of plants to stay healthy.
Also you can rear animals in this country pretty easily whereas veg needs to be seasonal. And livestock farming promoted biodiversity. Veg is grown in monocultures. You can't have insects and animals eating your business.

peakygold · 01/03/2024 19:32

Yet more pathetic virtue signalling.

Berlin86 · 01/03/2024 19:29

WhatsitWiggle · 01/03/2024 13:14

Did they specifically say carbon footprint? As veganism is a more sustainable diet than carnivorous, but unless you're only going to source products within a specifuc mileage of the event, then the carbon footprint / food miles could be higher.

Found this on Google.

Livestock farming produces from 20% to 50% of all man-made greenhouse gas emissions. Shrink That Footprint's chart shows that a meat lover has the highest carbon footprint at 3.3 tons of greenhouse gas emissions. A vegan diet has the lowest carbon footprint at just 1.5 tons CO2e (Carbon Dioxide Equivalent)

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 01/03/2024 19:27

crackofdoom · 01/03/2024 19:24

Mrs Bennett
In a way I understand that. There are loads and loads of adverts on TV at the moment for fake meat products, so I guess people who don't know many veggies/ vegans might jump to the conclusion that it's what we actually eat, rather than what they're desperately trying to sell us. You don't see many ads for eg pulses- Big Lentil hasn't got much of a marketing budget 😆

Big LentilGrin

crackofdoom · 01/03/2024 19:27

And it's not only lunch buffets. Did you not realise that most biscuits at meetings are vegetarian, and some are EVEN VEGAN 😱

Obviously this means that you can't eat them if you're a meat eater.

The woke mob are even coming for our custard creams!!!!!

DragonGypsyDoris · 01/03/2024 19:26

Sounds like virtue-signalling stupidity.

crackofdoom · 01/03/2024 19:24

Mrs Bennett
In a way I understand that. There are loads and loads of adverts on TV at the moment for fake meat products, so I guess people who don't know many veggies/ vegans might jump to the conclusion that it's what we actually eat, rather than what they're desperately trying to sell us. You don't see many ads for eg pulses- Big Lentil hasn't got much of a marketing budget 😆

Georgyporky · 01/03/2024 19:22

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 01/03/2024 19:20

It's interesting how many people associate vegan food with UPF. I assume that this is because of the recent trend towards veganism and the growth in fake meat products.

I'm not a vegan but I have had lots of wonderful vegan food over the years that has been made with lovely, fresh, good quality ingredients. It doesn't have to be fake burgers!!

You & I know this, I hope the company management do as well.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 01/03/2024 19:20

It's interesting how many people associate vegan food with UPF. I assume that this is because of the recent trend towards veganism and the growth in fake meat products.

I'm not a vegan but I have had lots of wonderful vegan food over the years that has been made with lovely, fresh, good quality ingredients. It doesn't have to be fake burgers!!

Treesnbirds · 01/03/2024 19:18

justteanbiscuits · 01/03/2024 15:44

The evening buffet at our wedding was all vegetarian. There were 3 people who refused to eat it.

Omg!! Blush
"If a poor sad animal hasn't suffered and died for this meal then I'm NOT eating it!" Angry

People are insane. If the live animals were lined up on the buffet table and people had to kill them themselves you can bet it would be a different story.

Georgyporky · 01/03/2024 19:17

I'd be concerned about the unnatural products often found in vegan foods.

I'd hope they would stick to non-UPF as well.

Over40Overdating · 01/03/2024 19:17

@Wonderfulstuff I actually love carrot and hummus sandwiches. Nasty to have sultanas though.

TeenyTinyCrocodile · 01/03/2024 19:17

I also note that when I cook meat and fish at home, or go to a restaurant, these meals are usually also full of lovely fresh ingredients including plenty of veg. There's a lot of falacy on this thread (and generally) around this issue.

TeenyTinyCrocodile · 01/03/2024 19:16

My best friend's dietary requirement often gets lumped in with the vegans for convenience and while she doesn't mind this for individual meals, she does stress for an overnight event or longer that she expects a balance of the foods and foodgroups that she eats, because she was getting things that didn't meet her nutritional needs over a day or more.

A PP said "vegan dishes are full of lovely fresh ingredients", well this is sometimes true and sometimes not; for example a dry salty 'cheeze' sandwich, even if it's got a bit of salad in it, is definitely no more healthy than anything else on offer and probably less so.

Wonderfulstuff · 01/03/2024 19:15

The vegan sandwich offering by our work caterers is 'carrot, sultana and hummus'... the only good thing is that it unites everyone in agreement that it is disgusting.

So grateful to be a Coeliac and used to bringing lunchbox everywhere.

QuestionableMouse · 01/03/2024 19:15

bakewellbride · 01/03/2024 19:06

@Mumofoneandone it's much worse to impose abuse, pain, suffering and death needlessly on billions of innocent animals every year.

Every single type of farming harms animals.