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Food orders for work related events are to be vegan and vegetarian only

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ValerieVomit · 01/03/2024 12:58

We all received an email at work to say that when we order catering in future for work related events we can only order vegetarian and vegan food. The management team has imposed this. It's to reduce our carbon footprint. I don't think that this means there is to be no carnivorous food available for the rest of the organisation but our department won't allow us to order any.

Reasonable or not?

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LordSnot · 30/05/2024 13:14

Jenepeuxpasdiscuteravecdesstupides · 30/05/2024 12:49

Read up on how vegan fake fish/meat is made

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Read up on... Well, everything about the carbon footprint of food. You don't even understand the basics let alone the nuances.

Trufflump · 30/05/2024 13:09

DancefloorAcrobatics · 30/05/2024 12:59

Just copied ingredient list from online supermarket:

BACON:
Pork (87%),
Water, Salt,
Preservative (Sodium Nitrite).

VEGAN BACON:

  • Water,
  • Soya Protein Concentrate (11%),
  • Olive Oil (8%),
  • Dextrin,
  • Soya Protein Isolate (3%),
  • Smoke Flavouring,
  • Pea Protein Isolate (1%),
  • Smoked Water,
  • Alginate, Maize Starch, Psyllium Fibre,
  • Rapeseed Oil,
  • Potato Starch,
  • Vegetable Extracts (Radish, Beetroot, Carrot, Paprika),
  • Salt,
  • Maltodextrin,
  • Smoked Salt,
  • Stabiliser: Calcium Sulphate,
  • Vitamin B12,
  • Iron

    • Who has bacon at work events? A better comparison would be veggie vs meat sausage rolls.

    DancefloorAcrobatics · 30/05/2024 13:03

    PS: it's also a rule to list the greatest ingredient first... so vegan bacon is probably overpriced water with a smoky flavour and a few other random things 🤢

    Jenepeuxpasdiscuteravecdesstupides · 30/05/2024 13:02

    crackofdoom · 30/05/2024 13:01

    You're still talking bollocks.

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    Explain why

    crackofdoom · 30/05/2024 13:01

    Jenepeuxpasdiscuteravecdesstupides · 30/05/2024 12:49

    Read up on how vegan fake fish/meat is made

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    You're still talking bollocks.

    DancefloorAcrobatics · 30/05/2024 13:00

    Don't know what happened there... but you see my point clearly!

    DancefloorAcrobatics · 30/05/2024 12:59

    Just copied ingredient list from online supermarket:

    BACON:
    Pork (87%),
    Water, Salt,
    Preservative (Sodium Nitrite).

    VEGAN BACON:

  • Water,
  • Soya Protein Concentrate (11%),
  • Olive Oil (8%),
  • Dextrin,
  • Soya Protein Isolate (3%),
  • Smoke Flavouring,
  • Pea Protein Isolate (1%),
  • Smoked Water,
  • Alginate, Maize Starch, Psyllium Fibre,
  • Rapeseed Oil,
  • Potato Starch,
  • Vegetable Extracts (Radish, Beetroot, Carrot, Paprika),
  • Salt,
  • Maltodextrin,
  • Smoked Salt,
  • Stabiliser: Calcium Sulphate,
  • Vitamin B12,
  • Iron

    • MassageForLife · 30/05/2024 12:54

    Beyond Burger is probably one of the most processed vegan alternatives around. This is from https://www.statista.com/statistics/1254448/environmental-impacts-beyond-burger-us-beef-patty/

    Food orders for work related events are to be vegan and vegetarian only
    Jenepeuxpasdiscuteravecdesstupides · 30/05/2024 12:49

    LordSnot · 30/05/2024 10:38

    You're talking bollocks.

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    Read up on how vegan fake fish/meat is made

    LordSnot · 30/05/2024 10:38

    Jenepeuxpasdiscuteravecdesstupides · 30/05/2024 07:32

    Given the energy and water required to make those processed 'it needs to look like a fish-finger or bacon' vegan foods use, the 'carbon footprint ' of meat is negligible.

    Management needs to get it's facts straight

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    You're talking bollocks.

    Pin0cchio · 30/05/2024 07:37

    Georgyporky · 13/03/2024 18:32
    A bit off-topic, but don't people know that celery is meant to be peeled ?

    Since when? Ive never seen it peeled in my life. You just eat it as is.

    Pin0cchio · 30/05/2024 07:34

    Id be really annoyed about this.

    I find whats offered in vegan options often either relies on very processed things, or is overseasoned/full of chilli. It can be really carby and have a lot of non local food.

    Our workplace has done something similar - reduced meat offering and increased vegan/veggie. It leads to a massive amount of waste as people try the vegan food, find it unpalatable and leave it.

    Jenepeuxpasdiscuteravecdesstupides · 30/05/2024 07:32

    ValerieVomit · 01/03/2024 12:58

    We all received an email at work to say that when we order catering in future for work related events we can only order vegetarian and vegan food. The management team has imposed this. It's to reduce our carbon footprint. I don't think that this means there is to be no carnivorous food available for the rest of the organisation but our department won't allow us to order any.

    Reasonable or not?

    Given the energy and water required to make those processed 'it needs to look like a fish-finger or bacon' vegan foods use, the 'carbon footprint ' of meat is negligible.

    Management needs to get it's facts straight

    Einwegflasche · 30/05/2024 07:29

    Being vegan/vegetarian does NOT automatically reduce carbon footprint.

    Kalevala · 13/03/2024 19:23

    Georgyporky · 13/03/2024 19:18

    @Kalevala @MassageForLife 😀😀

    It was in response to those who complained about celery being stringy.

    You aren't 'meant' to peel it anymore than you are meant to peel an apple. People may read and think they can't eat that bit, even if they are cutting it up to cook.

    Georgyporky · 13/03/2024 19:18

    @Kalevala @MassageForLife 😀😀

    It was in response to those who complained about celery being stringy.

    MassageForLife · 13/03/2024 19:06

    Georgyporky · 13/03/2024 18:32

    A bit off-topic, but don't people know that celery is meant to be peeled ?

    Is this going to be the new 'life's too short to stuff a mushroom' 😆

    'Life's too short to peel celery'...

    I've never felt the need to peel celery. I have occasionally peeled a broccoli stalk though...

    Kalevala · 13/03/2024 18:50

    Georgyporky · 13/03/2024 18:32

    A bit off-topic, but don't people know that celery is meant to be peeled ?

    All parts are edible.

    Georgyporky · 13/03/2024 18:32

    A bit off-topic, but don't people know that celery is meant to be peeled ?

    Kalevala · 13/03/2024 18:28

    MassageForLife · 13/03/2024 16:59

    I don't find the flavour of celery mild at all. I think it can be overpowering in things! I don't mind it, as long a the flavours are balanced, but I find too much really unpleasant.

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    I can't eat it raw without it being filled with houmous or something to disguise the taste. I'll use loads in a bolognese, but cut in 5mm slices so it isn't stringy. I prefer celeriac.

    MassageForLife · 13/03/2024 16:59

    Panackelty · 13/03/2024 11:56

    Me too, lovely subtle peppery flavour, and great in a soup. I wonder if some of the people who dislike it have a mild intolerance to it, as it’s an allergen, so have learned to avoid it naturally? Or perhaps that’s overthinking and it’s just the string!

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    I don't find the flavour of celery mild at all. I think it can be overpowering in things! I don't mind it, as long a the flavours are balanced, but I find too much really unpleasant.

    SuePine69 · 13/03/2024 15:48

    I think there are many people who are unable to enjoy or even sense subtle flavours. That's why they like to put sauce on everything. Sugar and acid, if they don't have them then they think it lacks flavour. I can enjoy celery, to some people it would be flavourless.

    Panackelty · 13/03/2024 11:56

    MikeRafone · 12/03/2024 20:14

    I like the taste of celery, it has depth of flavour and can be turned into an amazingly flavoursome soup.

    Im not sure what is weird about enjoying the flavour of a food, or understanding that concept - even if you don't actually like the flavour.

    Me too, lovely subtle peppery flavour, and great in a soup. I wonder if some of the people who dislike it have a mild intolerance to it, as it’s an allergen, so have learned to avoid it naturally? Or perhaps that’s overthinking and it’s just the string!

    Kalevala · 12/03/2024 22:46

    @Panackelty

    I'm the same, happy to eat wholefood vegan foods. I don't understand the assumption that people eat upf that contains meat just because they haven't announced that they avoid upf in general.