Page 12 | Food orders for work related events are to be vegan and vegetarian only

Slanketblanket · 02/03/2024 22:04

NoMoreFalafelsForYou · 02/03/2024 21:53

What kind of food did they serve?

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It's sandwiches for most events. They have undescribed contents, usually meat substitutes or curried lumps of white stuff (assume it's soya/tofu??) most of it is spicy. They will also do cold falafel balls on their own.

We've had high profile visitors run over the road to pret and come back, it's embarrassing.

CarrotOfPeace · 02/03/2024 22:03

Kalevala · 02/03/2024 21:59

I didn't say Dave was a bit fussy. Dave may have known that plain chicken was a safe option that wouldn't cause him pain.

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Yeah perhaps Dave is autistic and has sensory issues.

Hmm..

It might just be best if everyone brings their own food

TidydeskTidymind · 02/03/2024 21:59

I can't eat nuts, seeds, legumes, wholefoods or refined carbs.

The vegan fare my works supply at big meetings is falafels, samosas, wraps, sandwiches - all with undefined vegan fillings of god knows what so I just can't risk eating it.

I just take a banana, yoghurt and an avocado, drink lors of tea and avoid the buffet.

Kalevala · 02/03/2024 21:59

MassageForLife · 02/03/2024 21:35

It would depend on the business.

Some would definitely pick up on it, some might not.

Pretty sure most people wouldn't go against the companies others just because Dave can be a bit fussy though!

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I didn't say Dave was a bit fussy. Dave may have known that plain chicken was a safe option that wouldn't cause him pain.

CarrotOfPeace · 02/03/2024 21:57

MassageForLife · 02/03/2024 21:38

Right.

So you have an issue with them not going far enough with what's being ordered (despite not knowing what's being ordered), but you happily eat the things you think they shouldn't offer to their staff?

I appreciate your honesty.

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I don't have a policy no. I don't eat meat. But I also don't shout about it and make out how amazing I am.

NoMoreFalafelsForYou · 02/03/2024 21:53

Slanketblanket · 02/03/2024 21:44

My work did this last year. It's a nightmare for me as I can't have soya so I can't eat at work events. Most of our visitors think the food is awful and it makes events very awkward as people shuffle around the food and then walk away, leaving early because they're hungry.

What kind of food did they serve?

derxa · 02/03/2024 21:53

Cel77 · 02/03/2024 21:13

Just wanted to point out that raising animals for their meat uses much more water than growing plants.

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Do you think we’re short of water in Scotland

EatSprayGlove · 02/03/2024 21:52

Wouldn't bother me as long as it wasn't meat substitute as I won't eat that and would much prefer actual meat as trying to avoid too many over processed foods but I'd happily eat egg and cheese (proper cheese not vegan) sarnies if the ham and chicken are removed. I usually try and avoid veggie ones at a work buffet because I worry veggies will end up missing out but would otherwise be my preference. Mind you I don't think it's necessarily environmentally significant as it depends on sourcing. I would hope it would decrease wastage though and all round mean the spread of food was fairer.

BlueFlowers5 · 02/03/2024 21:50

Hummus and anything with chick peas in it is nearly as high a protein level as steak.

Slanketblanket · 02/03/2024 21:44

My work did this last year. It's a nightmare for me as I can't have soya so I can't eat at work events. Most of our visitors think the food is awful and it makes events very awkward as people shuffle around the food and then walk away, leaving early because they're hungry.

MassageForLife · 02/03/2024 21:38

CarrotOfPeace · 02/03/2024 21:11

I am about the emails yes. I always say thank you in the email I send so I don't have to send a follow up one. I don't know the carbon footprint on a mumsnet post so perhaps I should consider that.

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Right.

So you have an issue with them not going far enough with what's being ordered (despite not knowing what's being ordered), but you happily eat the things you think they shouldn't offer to their staff?

I appreciate your honesty.

MrsLighthouse · 02/03/2024 21:37

It’s a fully reasonable decision. It’s work - presumably not where rely on for your full dietary needs ? I’d only think it was a bit tough if you were away for a few days. Daily events it’s fine. Eat a burger later !

MassageForLife · 02/03/2024 21:35

Kalevala · 02/03/2024 21:04

So the person who places the order, orders a vegetarian sandwich selection plus some plain chicken sandwiches for Dave who can't have what's on the general menu, then would someone check up on that?

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It would depend on the business.

Some would definitely pick up on it, some might not.

Pretty sure most people wouldn't go against the companies others just because Dave can be a bit fussy though!

TidydeskTidymind · 02/03/2024 21:34

ValerieVomit · 01/03/2024 12:58

We all received an email at work to say that when we order catering in future for work related events we can only order vegetarian and vegan food. The management team has imposed this. It's to reduce our carbon footprint. I don't think that this means there is to be no carnivorous food available for the rest of the organisation but our department won't allow us to order any.

Reasonable or not?

What else are the management team doing to lower the organisations carbon footprint?

Cel77 · 02/03/2024 21:13

Herdinggoats · 01/03/2024 13:02

Totally unreasonable. I’d rather buy my own. It doesn’t take into consideration other people’s dietary preferences. For me I like high protein diet but try to steer clear of anything hyper processed like a lot of the vegan alternatives.

It’s also quite ignorant as doesn’t take into account the huge water consumption and impact of many vegan foods.

I think I would refuse to be part of these meals and networking sessions.

I also think it’s an inappropriate use of higher-ups power to impose their beliefs on junior staff.

Just wanted to point out that raising animals for their meat uses much more water than growing plants.

CarrotOfPeace · 02/03/2024 21:11

MassageForLife · 02/03/2024 20:01

Are you this discriminating about what you eat and the messages you send in real life?

How far is reasonable? At what point are they doing enough?

Because clearly there are plenty of people that think they are doing too much!

I guess if people are complaining that they are both doing too much and doing too little, maybe they've got it about right.

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I am about the emails yes. I always say thank you in the email I send so I don't have to send a follow up one. I don't know the carbon footprint on a mumsnet post so perhaps I should consider that.

Lindyloomillion1 · 02/03/2024 21:10

I would be annoyed by this. I'm a carnivore and dislike people telling me what I can eat but am liberal about other people's choices. Provide a choice. What's the issue with that?
Btw, I often choose vegetarian food in a buffet. But I want to be able to choose, unless budget says otherwise

CarrotOfPeace · 02/03/2024 21:10

ExpatAl · 02/03/2024 20:08

What’s the big deal? We just had a staff lunch and had gorgeous fresh spring rolls and dip plus Pad Thai. All vegetarian and delish. Out org has an ethics policy too so staffing/everything is looked at. I like this.
We often use a Syrian caterer who only hires migrants.

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That's what I mean. Look at all the ethics. Sounds great

threatmatrix · 02/03/2024 21:08

Herdinggoats · 01/03/2024 13:02

Totally unreasonable. I’d rather buy my own. It doesn’t take into consideration other people’s dietary preferences. For me I like high protein diet but try to steer clear of anything hyper processed like a lot of the vegan alternatives.

It’s also quite ignorant as doesn’t take into account the huge water consumption and impact of many vegan foods.

I think I would refuse to be part of these meals and networking sessions.

I also think it’s an inappropriate use of higher-ups power to impose their beliefs on junior staff.

Spot on 👏👏

cremebrulait · 02/03/2024 21:05

Presumably all the people saying its reasonable like eating vegan vegetarian. This isnt saving the planet. This is BS because some idiot one thinks that will be more inclusive. Nobody is ordering for the celiacs, diabetics, or whatever preference. Lol reminds me of how bat shit crazy the vegan EA went when I told her I couldn’t have sugar. Lol

if they wanted to make a difference they buy local and sustainable.

Kalevala · 02/03/2024 21:04

MassageForLife · 02/03/2024 20:08

I suspect most catering companies are pretty good at understanding what's needed if someone orders vegetarian and vegan food. If they can't manage to supply a vegetarian quiche when it's ordered, then I would be changing suppliers pdq!

I would be surprised if people are ordering individually. It sounds like someone will be ordering for the department.

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So the person who places the order, orders a vegetarian sandwich selection plus some plain chicken sandwiches for Dave who can't have what's on the general menu, then would someone check up on that?

ExpatAl · 02/03/2024 20:14

MassageForLife · 02/03/2024 20:10

Well you see, it's because they are clearly ordering nothing but avocados, soya beans and highly processed vegan food.

At least, that's the impression this thread gives 😁

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🤣

MassageForLife · 02/03/2024 20:10

ExpatAl · 02/03/2024 20:08

What’s the big deal? We just had a staff lunch and had gorgeous fresh spring rolls and dip plus Pad Thai. All vegetarian and delish. Out org has an ethics policy too so staffing/everything is looked at. I like this.
We often use a Syrian caterer who only hires migrants.

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Well you see, it's because they are clearly ordering nothing but avocados, soya beans and highly processed vegan food.

At least, that's the impression this thread gives 😁

MassageForLife · 02/03/2024 20:08

Kalevala · 02/03/2024 20:03

I wonder how this would be policed if ordering from a caterer that also supplies non vegetarian food? Are they checking that a quiche is goats cheese and roasted pepper or cheddar and caramelised onion but not cheddar and bacon? What if Dave, who can't eat falafel or hummus, orders some plain chicken sandwiches?

I suspect most catering companies are pretty good at understanding what's needed if someone orders vegetarian and vegan food. If they can't manage to supply a vegetarian quiche when it's ordered, then I would be changing suppliers pdq!

I would be surprised if people are ordering individually. It sounds like someone will be ordering for the department.

ExpatAl · 02/03/2024 20:08

What’s the big deal? We just had a staff lunch and had gorgeous fresh spring rolls and dip plus Pad Thai. All vegetarian and delish. Out org has an ethics policy too so staffing/everything is looked at. I like this.
We often use a Syrian caterer who only hires migrants.