Aibu to wonder why private schools produce more "well rounded" children? Is it the school or the parents?

Lol at "polished people". Most of those people have only ever been surrounded by other "polished people"...so they genuinely have no idea how ghastly they are.😂

I think this documentary sums it up.big I was paying £45,000 a year I’d expect a well rounded kid. They investigate state school versus state. It’s an interesting program.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001wtlw

No, they shouldn't criticise people who are prepared to do a job that they won't do themselves.

If a brain surgeon feels that policians are ghastly (like the pp said), then they should do something about it by becoming one.

Are brain surgeons allowed to criticise politicians, or should they change careers and become one?

Tbh most of the parents at those schools will be more polished. So if you are hanging out with polished people you are likely to learn the same behaviours.

What is this artificial leg up? You do realise the kids have to sit the same exams as everyone else don't you. They do have advantages to be sure. Smaller class sizes etc. but they have to actually work to get the grades. The grades don't just get presented to them for having gone to a particular school.

They are generally expected to worked hard. Longer days. Sometimes Saturday school. MASSES of homework.

Yes they have advantages but they are doing the work to get the grades otherwise they wouldn't be getting the grades they get

No, it isn't really. If you won't do the job yourself then you shouldn't criticise other people who are prepared to do it.

Anyone can become a politician. It is not like being a brain surgeon where you need a certain level of intelligence and skill.

Well rounded meaning practiced at many things. Many sports, drama, art, playing at least one musical instruments, fluent in another language. Not sure how that's not well rounded to you.

You seem to be confusing well rounded with exposed to different social classes.

I don't doubt that but that's not necessarily well rounded at all. I would say in a lot of cases they lack empathy and have a narrower view of the world.

It's OK to criticise politicians without wanting to be one

What a bizarre statement

Completely agree

I used to think private was best even if I didn't agree with it politically - having seen how successful my kids have been in state school I don't think that any more. I have a son heading for Cambridge in October, who is a happy well-adjusted young man who volunteers and wants to improve society. I have a talented artistic and kind daughter who plays 2 instruments at grade 8, speaks three languages and is also an Oxbridge aspirant. I very much doubt there would have been a better result if I had sent them to an expensive indie - in fact probably the opposite. I see my best friend from my (private) school who has sent her two to indie and I am afraid has quite unhappy teens who despite both being highly intelligent with loveing parents are struggling both academically and socially. So, family are important but so is the ethos of the school and many of the UK's state schools are brilliant.

No more than in state schools.

I couldn’t agree more, it’s the fetishising and constant hero worship of private school as the pot of gold I can’t get over. There are all sorts of kids at private school and plenty arse about in sport and hate it or refuse to take drama seriously, or don’t go near the music department after year 9 in exactly the same way as they do in any other school. Bizarre

Rather than criticising, what is stopping you becoming a politician so that they aren't quite so ghastly? You can't be bothered can you?

Honestly I’m thinking of transferring my two kids to private. Reasons - fed up with daily reports of disruptive and aggressive behaviour from kids the teacher clearly can’t control. Disrupts my sons’ learning, and whilst I have sympathy for the teachers I am not happy for these children to continue to impact negatively on the learning experiences of my kids. I’m fed up to back teeth with it.

Too many behavioural issues and threats of violence towards my sons in their current school. Of course you get bullying in private too, but I do not think it’s tolerated. A certain standard of behaviour is expected and reinforced.

Wider exposure to a range of experiences and activities, in a more personalised environment. More encouragement and support to participate.

Less exposure to troubled behaviours, peers who cause the school issues and halt learning for everyone else

To answer the question, re more 'well - rounded' children... they don't.
The only person I know who went to a private school, is not well rounded at all.
He is definitely arrogant, but that's not the same thing at all.
So, in my view it very much depends on the child, the parents, the school, etc, and not really much to do with private or state.
Of course, a child from a state school background, and definitely those who are poorer may not have some of the 'expensive' type of life experiences as the 'privately' educated person, but that in itself does not make them any less well-rounded. It really depends on what the school offers, and what else the family can do outside of school.

My independent school specialised in creating an environment that fostered anxiety and eating disorders.
Yes, everyone got a lot of As and could play an instrument and speak more than one foreign language. But it came at a high cost.
I know all schools are different, but my children won't be going to any similar independent school. I want them to value themselves for all their wonderfulness, not for a grade in an exam.

Guess it depends on your social circle. I know lots of parents who facilitate this kind of stuff for their kids.

Well rounded to me means lots of life experiences in all sorts of situations with all sorts of people. Not just experiences in a bubble of wealth and privilege. .

Drugs, anorexia, self harm, mental health issues - are you saying these aren't an issue in private schools?

I agree parent s can, but most parents in my experience don't, whereas the private schools just have it as a matter of curriculum and all the students get the exposure.

These days, I would say probably not. Lots of kids are struggling with anxiety etc these days.

When I was at school in the late eighties/ early nineties... maybe?

They look and sound the same?! What the fuck.

This is just not true, you're just too prejudiced to understand that.