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To want my husband to say something about MIL's comments

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danialan · 28/02/2024 14:16

DH is the youngest child of a very wealthy family, he has an older brother who isn’t as close to their mum as DH is, I suspect I know the reasons (see post below) but have no confirmation.

MIL will constantly make comments to us suggesting that if any decision is made that she disagrees with, it’s a stupid decision and only made by us because we’re young (I’m late 20s, DH mid-30s), inexperienced and probably not as smart as her (no one is!).
Example 1 - we went to Young V&A with our DDs and when MIL called early afternoon as we were on our way back in the car, we told her what we had been up to. MIL’s response was “you kept them indoors for half the day?!”, DH responds that actually the girls loved it, it was super interactive, we’ll send some pics when we get home. She goes “right, um, are you at least planning to take them to the park later today? They need fresh air! How sad for them to be in a stuffy museum”
Example 2 - we were planning to name after my grandma who died during my pregnancy, her name was Arina, and yes I’m from abroad. MIL wouldn’t stop with comments like “at least give it as a middle name… with Wembley as a first name hahaha” (for those from outside UK, Wembley Arena is a massive stadium). And “well she won’t thank you when she’s being bullied” or “and Pitch if he’s a boy, yeah?”
Example 3 - one of my daughters was climbing down from the sofa, she’s done this before successfully many times and I don’t think it’s great parenting to run up to your child any time they’re learning / practicing something and “helping” - they’ll never get the chance to learn or develop muscles! The whole time MIL kept saying “I don’t want to see this” “she’ll fall - do you not care?”
There’s more examples to give if needed but don’t want to make the initial post super long, I know it already will be!

DH doesn’t pressure me to do everything she comments on (although our daughter isn’t called Arina) but I can see that the comments make him upset or uncomfortable, I don’t know which. And in front of her he feels like he has to just do as she says, never stands up to her. For example in the sofa example he will lift her down instead of saying “it’s okay mum, she’s safe, she’s learning, it’s a low sofa and it’s stood on a carpet”, whereas at home he’d let her do it. Suddenly after the museum example he volunteered to take them both to the playground.

On the face of it, MIL loves her son (DH) and just wants what’s best for him, loves our 2 DDs and she wants what’s best for them too. She wants to see them lots and she just also has so much life experience that she can’t wait to share with us, all because, in case it’s not been mentioned, she wants what’s best for us. That’s DH’s interpretation and MIL’s reasoning if questioned about the comments or her overinvolvement.

To avoid a drip feed: she does financially help in the sense that she gifted DH a house in which we currently live and often gives nice “gifts” like a car, baby equipment, nice baby clothes etc and invites us on luxurious holidays (which I actually hate because it’s 24/7 comments on every decision we make and how it’s wrong). However the financial support allows me not to work and be a SAHM which I’m of course grateful for and perhaps should keep my mouth shut?

OP posts:
Nosleepforthismum · 28/02/2024 17:05

Well you have money in your own right and I think in your position I’d speak to DH and say “Your mum is constantly undermining me and my parenting and has too much say in how we live our lives. I think the amount of financial support she gives us plays a big part in this. The kids are getting older and will pick up on those comments before too long so I suggest we give back the cars and we buy our house (from the sale of my current property) so we can be fully independent and the relationship with MIL can become a bit more balanced. We will also be setting a great example for the kids to encourage their own independence away from us when the time comes.”

It’s not an easy decision (who wouldn’t love a free house, free cars and holidays) but I think part of the problem is that your MIL doesn’t respect you or your DH. She’s treating you both as overgrown children and unless you make a decision to completely cut these financial ties, I can’t see it changing.

pam290358 · 28/02/2024 17:04

Boomer55 · 28/02/2024 16:53

Count your blessings. You’ve been very lucky.

Why ? Because her MiL has bought control of their lives and feels entitled to say and do whatever she wants ? OP doesn’t actually have anything, depending on how enforceable the pre nup is, so given the strings attached I don’t see how she’s lucky.

WhiteLily1 · 28/02/2024 17:03

OddSockChaser · 28/02/2024 14:49

I disagree with posters saying you must put up with these comments because you live off MIL's money.

That implies that in any relationship where someone is looking after someone else financially, the financially dependent party must put up with being spoken to badly because they are receiving money. Receiving money from someone doesn't give them the right to speak badly to you. Money should not be given to pay for the right to be critical. That's absolute bullshit. I suspect a lot of posters can't see past their own envy of your financial situation.

So with the issue of MIL, absolutely you and DH need to learn the art of standing up to her. This won't come easily, or come overnight. I suggest some googling around standing up to critical parents etc, or possibly even some therapy or coaching to help you both develop the skills to politely and respectfully stand up to MIL and encourage better behaviours from her. I say both of you, but I recognise that this problem is mainly his, however it would benefit for you to learn the skills as well so you can back each other up and work as a team to stop her doing this.

She is not behaving herself but the only way to stop it is for both of you to change your responses. It might be hard at first but well worth it.

Exactly. Hit the nail on the head.
So many bitter posters saying get back to work. Pure jealousy of the financial position. Loads of posters will have MIL like this who will have got sweet FA from them!
Does anyone on this thread honestly believe that MIL would be sweet as pie if the OP got a job and they both took no more handouts and paid for the house?
MIL would be like this money or no money!!

Abeona · 28/02/2024 17:02

Kindly, OP, you sound young and spoiled and completely unaware of your extraordinary privilege. If you won't work, and thus build some independence and resilience, at least volunteer a couple of days with a charity so that you get a taste of what most ordinary people have to put up with. Sometimes you need a wider perspective to enable you to see how fortunate you are and how little things that wind you up matter. If you've got nothing serious or worrying going on in your life then you tend to make big things out of tiny things that the rest of us ordinary mortals would just laugh at.

Flyeeeeer · 28/02/2024 17:01

MrsTerryPratchett · 28/02/2024 14:23

the financial support allows me not to work and be a SAHM

Who pays the piper calls the tune. Your MIL and DH know she's paying to do this. Your choices are to be independent or not. I'd choose independence. But that means you get a job.

This. But doubt OP wants to tbh. Sounds like quite a nice cushy life playing at grown ups without any of the grown up responsibility.

Travelsweat · 28/02/2024 17:01

There’s an old saying that goes something like “the borrower is a slave to the lender”. If you’re being supported with things like a house, a car, baby necessities, and holidays — there isn’t much to fund in life beyond food if those things are covered! — to the point that you don’t have to work to fund your lifestyle, then I think YABU to expect that she won’t want a say in said lifestyle.

If you want to be free of her involvement, I think you need to stop accepting the lifestyle subsidy.

Rosscameasdoody · 28/02/2024 17:00

Flamingos89 · 28/02/2024 16:17

Her comments are standard annoying grandparent comments…. Annoying, but not pure evil…

Her generosity however is above anything I have ever heard off before and allows you a life style a lot of people dream off. (People who also have the comments from grandparents)

Weigh it up!

With a pre nup, if the marriage goes tits up - and if DH won’t stand up to his mum it becomes a question of how long before this happens - OP has precisely nothing. She has no choice but to fall in line and accept MiL’s behaviour, or walk away. Sounds like MiL knew exactly what she was doing. Control bought and paid for.

101Nutella · 28/02/2024 16:58

@danialan the holiday thing?! No more of that!!! You are not the hired help!! Why are they treating you like the nanny?! N ct time it comes up you say no because you leave me to parent alone. I want quality family time without your mother . And book a trip.

if he manages to persuade you to go one more time at the first sign of him doing that you say ‘no he needs to parent’. If he doesn’t help you get hen you need to make a fuss coz right now he’s acting like her companion not yours! You need to cut those apron strings! You have a DH issue.

sharingzoe · 28/02/2024 16:58

DistingusedSocialCommentator · 28/02/2024 14:19

What more do you want?

If someone gifted us a house - trust me, I put up with a lot, lot and lot more than that

Terrible attitude! So money equals being treated badly forever? No way

MammaTo · 28/02/2024 16:56

I don’t think the examples you’ve given are that bad, I don’t know - maybe it’s my sense of humour.

Flyeeeeer · 28/02/2024 16:55

DistingusedSocialCommentator · 28/02/2024 14:19

What more do you want?

If someone gifted us a house - trust me, I put up with a lot, lot and lot more than that

This. A roof over my head and the chance to sit at home all day? Believe memo have a cushier life than most.
Although I do admit if someone insulted my deceased gran's name I would be angry too.

Boomer55 · 28/02/2024 16:53

Count your blessings. You’ve been very lucky.

101Nutella · 28/02/2024 16:53

I don’t think she owns you because she is CHOOSING to give you gifts. She might but unless she’s explicitly given those terms and conditions then don’t accept weird controlling behaviour.

also just coz she’s older doesn’t mean she’s expert- times are very different, situations are different. She was expert making decisions in her time and situation for her kids as she knew all the facts. U are for yours. Also she was only each age once, as you are, so same level of experience but yours is more current. Don’t lose yourself in this.

can you let it was over you with closed phrases like ‘hmmm, ah I see, oh interesting, good point’ then ignore it.
for the direct ones you need to shut it down eg sofa one ‘oh she’ll be fine anyway … change subject. Or ‘yeah we let her do that- don’t look then!’ And make husband be on same page.

good luck- I would say something nicely and ask my husband to support. But u won’t change her so I’d pick my essential battles and reduce info to her that she can comment on.

OhmygodDont · 28/02/2024 16:52

I’m sorry but when someone finances your entire life of course there’s going to be comments.

A bit like when you tell your child they can buy one thing from the toy if you really think they are being silly about their choice you direct them to something better. That’s what you Mil is doing. She’s being mum because she’s paying for everything.

You married your husband knowing this, you get to be a sahm because of her, not him. Frankly you where stupid to marry him if you couldn’t deal with the none life of the family you where marrying into.

Fionaville · 28/02/2024 16:50

When you accept any financial help from people, they have the power over you to comment on how you live your life. As you say, she'd no doubt continue if you got a job. Honestly, in your position (the money to DH is never going to stop) I'd just learn to tune her out.
I have a completely different dynamic with my MIL (no help financially or otherwise) but she is very vocal about her opinions. I will either ignore, laugh it off and have some banter with her or tell her to give it a rest. It's an active decision to be a door mat or disrespected by a MIL. The best relationships come from being open and honest. When she comments on things, answer her back!

FootOnTheGas · 28/02/2024 16:47

Maybe she doesn't respect your lack of independence and gratitude.
Do you ever do nice things for her?

DaBlackCatsAreDaBestCats · 28/02/2024 16:47

Because she spends a lot of money on you she thinks she can speak to you how she likes. Unfortunately everything comes at a price

Rosscameasdoody · 28/02/2024 16:46

TheShellBeach · 28/02/2024 14:23

Really? But you're married.

Clearly the house was gifted before they were married if there’s a pre nup in place. Regardless of that though, it’s not a reason to behave the way MiL does. It’s controlling.

Unicorntearsofgin · 28/02/2024 16:43

Sorry I suspect you don’t want to hear this but if she is funding your choice to be a SAHM this isn’t going to change. I’d strongly advice maintaining some financial independence and stop accepting the handouts if you don’t like the strings

N0tfinished · 28/02/2024 16:43

I don't like the big pile-on of OP re financial help. Most of us accept support of some kind or other from family. In my case it's physical help because they're not wealthy but it's help nonetheless.

OP, I think the best advice is to have a stock number of trite responses and otherwise let them roll off you. in my case it was a variety of 'is that right' and 'Oh yeah?' and then continue to parent exactly as before. Frankly, her giving out because you brought the kids to a museum is hysterical. Obviously theres no winning with her, so better to shrug it off and take some breaks from seeing her. Send your DH with the kids & do something else.

Ive seen hundreds of posts on here over the years about interfering Grandparents, you're not at all unique unfortunately. Your options are either to distance yourself (which you say your husband is reluctant to do) or to change your reaction to the comments.

Ulysees · 28/02/2024 16:40

@MrsCarson has it right about the dcs. It's not good for them to think this is normal.

rwalker · 28/02/2024 16:39

As they say there’s no such thing as a free lunch
I think her finical involvement make her think she has some input

Ulysees · 28/02/2024 16:38

Springcat · 28/02/2024 16:29

Well there you go ,she's bought you
Her money will silence your DH ,and you by the sounds of it
Nothing in life is ever free without strings

It is with my Mil and my previous lovely Mil. And my late dm. And so it is with me and dcs/friends and family. You should never give and expect anything I'm return. Or think it gives you power over someone

This whole thing is unhealthy.

MrsCarson · 28/02/2024 16:34

You could always tell Dh he can either have your back and help stop her criticisms and undermining of you or you could move to your own house and he can visit if he is so attached to material things she uses to control him.
I'd also tell him that you and the kids will no longer go on her toxic holidays you would like to relax and not listen to all the things not done to her way or her standard.
He either wants a happy family with you or to be single and see them during visitation.
The kids will soon start to pick up on the comments and it is hard for a child to see/hear their parent being reprimanded and it won't do your/his relationship with them any good.

Tontostitis · 28/02/2024 16:34

I live like a child dependent on handouts and don't like the downside.. ...