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To want my husband to say something about MIL's comments

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danialan · 28/02/2024 14:16

DH is the youngest child of a very wealthy family, he has an older brother who isn’t as close to their mum as DH is, I suspect I know the reasons (see post below) but have no confirmation.

MIL will constantly make comments to us suggesting that if any decision is made that she disagrees with, it’s a stupid decision and only made by us because we’re young (I’m late 20s, DH mid-30s), inexperienced and probably not as smart as her (no one is!).
Example 1 - we went to Young V&A with our DDs and when MIL called early afternoon as we were on our way back in the car, we told her what we had been up to. MIL’s response was “you kept them indoors for half the day?!”, DH responds that actually the girls loved it, it was super interactive, we’ll send some pics when we get home. She goes “right, um, are you at least planning to take them to the park later today? They need fresh air! How sad for them to be in a stuffy museum”
Example 2 - we were planning to name after my grandma who died during my pregnancy, her name was Arina, and yes I’m from abroad. MIL wouldn’t stop with comments like “at least give it as a middle name… with Wembley as a first name hahaha” (for those from outside UK, Wembley Arena is a massive stadium). And “well she won’t thank you when she’s being bullied” or “and Pitch if he’s a boy, yeah?”
Example 3 - one of my daughters was climbing down from the sofa, she’s done this before successfully many times and I don’t think it’s great parenting to run up to your child any time they’re learning / practicing something and “helping” - they’ll never get the chance to learn or develop muscles! The whole time MIL kept saying “I don’t want to see this” “she’ll fall - do you not care?”
There’s more examples to give if needed but don’t want to make the initial post super long, I know it already will be!

DH doesn’t pressure me to do everything she comments on (although our daughter isn’t called Arina) but I can see that the comments make him upset or uncomfortable, I don’t know which. And in front of her he feels like he has to just do as she says, never stands up to her. For example in the sofa example he will lift her down instead of saying “it’s okay mum, she’s safe, she’s learning, it’s a low sofa and it’s stood on a carpet”, whereas at home he’d let her do it. Suddenly after the museum example he volunteered to take them both to the playground.

On the face of it, MIL loves her son (DH) and just wants what’s best for him, loves our 2 DDs and she wants what’s best for them too. She wants to see them lots and she just also has so much life experience that she can’t wait to share with us, all because, in case it’s not been mentioned, she wants what’s best for us. That’s DH’s interpretation and MIL’s reasoning if questioned about the comments or her overinvolvement.

To avoid a drip feed: she does financially help in the sense that she gifted DH a house in which we currently live and often gives nice “gifts” like a car, baby equipment, nice baby clothes etc and invites us on luxurious holidays (which I actually hate because it’s 24/7 comments on every decision we make and how it’s wrong). However the financial support allows me not to work and be a SAHM which I’m of course grateful for and perhaps should keep my mouth shut?

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Nantescalling · 21/04/2024 14:56

If I got it right, you want your husband to speak up for you against his Mum. If she already treated you that way before you married her son and he did nothing then, how can you expect him to bite the hand that feeds you both?

MumsGoneToYonderLand · 11/03/2024 19:17

YAN at all U for wanting your husband to have a spine and (nicely) correct/ laugh at/ ignore/ disagree with his mother as required and be supportive to you.

Ireally cannot stand spineless men who let their parents get away with being rude. It has nothing to do with what she has gifted, as you say it would happen anyway.

Also - I only read the first, say 10, responses and was very surprised they were all negative towards you. Basically ‘suck it up’ or ‘what do you expect you slinging lucky cow foreigner’.

have to think that if you hadn’t said you were foreign born some of these comments might have been more sympathetic. Sorry your husband is being such a pathetic wimp.

Popettypop · 11/03/2024 18:46

Why do you see her gifts as bribery.???
that’s a pretty fucked up way of thinking a tbh.
she’s his mum she is allowed to help financially that’s what parents do if they can surely?

honestly it’s a genuine question why are the gifts bribing him? I really don’t understand that perspective?

Hmcs · 10/03/2024 21:33

hi sorry didn’t read all of the post
but i actually work at the young v&a
so wanted to comment on that

its an amazing space for kids
creative
fun
it so open and bright

for under 5s it’s great
as an adult i enjoy it

there does seem to be as an age gap over 5 they havent worked out yet

but for younger kids please go

there’s a reason there’s queue around the building in the school holidays

LanaL · 09/03/2024 13:47

It’s wrong that she speaks to you like this and I don’t agree with the fact that by gifting you and supporting financially she feels able to have any form of control over your life . However , unfortunately if you bring this up , it could get heated and you do take the risk of her withdrawing the support or you having the decline it . It’s not right but it’s how it is .

I would imagine a life without these comments but with having to work and pay for your own home , car etc would be a lot worse than what you have now . It sounds like you have financial security and are extremely lucky to be able to spend this time with your children at home . As a mother who has always had to work and my children are now teens / pre teens .. I would have given anything for that . I won’t get that special time back . Really hold on to the situation you have that allows that . You said she wants the best 2 is she a good grandmother? Would your children lose out if she weren’t involved ? Bite your tounge , you don’t live with her so you have escape … it’s just a matter of biting your tounge ! It would be really foolish to risk all you have over an annoyance x

Stacybrown · 07/03/2024 09:24

You’re not being unreasonable and you need to explain this to him. I’ve started refusing to see my in laws because of something similar.
I know they’re all bitch about me behind my back and it puts DH in an awkward situation sometimes but it also need to protect my own mental health.

Greenpolkadot · 04/03/2024 17:20

Dont fuel her criticism. Dont tell her everything youv been doing

Kyliemichelletaylor · 04/03/2024 07:16

This is nearly identical with my own situation (except my MIL wasn’t as generous although still does help her son out every so often). It’s awful - I feel your pain. The only way I’ve been able to manage it is putting up boundaries, but DH doesn’t let her comments slide thankfully…. Although it does create so much drama, angst and anxiety.

Findinganewme · 03/03/2024 15:33

I think that you know that she has leverage due to her investments, financially or otherwise.

im older than you, have made mistakes and one thing i would say is m; have your own independence and power or choice.

Jcf1977 · 03/03/2024 08:08

The holiday sounds awful tbf but easily avoided. Just send DH with the kids and say “you know I don’t enjoy it, so you go and have a great time.”
you don’t need to stop accepting gifts. It’s up to her what she gives. But you (as it sounds like DH won’t) need to stand up for yourself. Every time she says something, say, that’s not my choice. After a few in a row, quietly say, these are my children, I will parent them as I choose, and if you continue to belittle me in this way you will be seeing a lot less of them. Choose not to go, she will soon get bored of having to do actual childcare when she sees them. If she chooses to stop taking you all on holiday then brilliant. She is never going to kick DS out of his house. If you choose to leave him bC of his reaction to any of the above, you are in a decent position. Better than most by a country mile.

JMSA · 03/03/2024 05:43

Holy fuck, are these really the worst examples you can come up with?

And she has gifted you your HOME?! Confused

What do you honestly expect us to say here, OP? Other than how bloody lucky you are Grin

In fact, how can this post even be for real ...

MustWeDoThis · 03/03/2024 05:32

danialan · 28/02/2024 14:31

@saraclara none of the gifts are to me. My DH is accepting the help (and yes I know I benefit from living in a nice house!). I can't exactly say to him "your mum isn't allowed to gift you X". I know for a fact he wouldn't stop accepting the gifts.

How do you think the rest of us survive without a wealthy family behind us!? We work!

I work full-time and study full-time, so does my husband. We have 3 children.

Family gift us stuff through the years and my Mother is very controlling - I nipped it in the bud. She didn't like it, I didn't care.

You need to come away from them. Move DH into your home you have bought and see how he likes it when you don't add his name to the mortgage. Get him to sell the other house and use that money to give back to the MIL, or just give the house and the cars back.

Use your inheritance to buy a car.

Get a job.

Tell your MIL she is free to continue gift giving, but she is not free to Continue treating you like a door mat. Tell her if she continues then she will not be invited into your home and it will be indoor visits with the grandchildren only. Advise her she is free to buy them clothing and toys, but again she us not free to Mother them.

Tell your husband to grow a spine and grow up. If your husband doesn't change to your advantage then his true colours will show and he will also see his MIL's true colours. Your husband doesn't respect you and I would move out with the children, into your own house, get a job, use the inheritance for a nursery etc and tell him he needs to change before you let him move into your home.

If you don't want to do any of the above, because you have many options you could take....then tough! You'll have to put up with it.

BillyNotQuiteNoMates · 02/03/2024 07:54

I get it. I had one of these MILs as well. I don’t have any advice but I wish I’d left her son years earlier. He never stood up for me either, and gradually started to see me through his mothers eyes. Tell him how it makes you feel. Either he will understand and back you, or he won’t.

Dotcomma · 02/03/2024 00:58

I don't really know what you want anyone to say, you obviously knew what your husband to be and his mother/family were like. I'm surprised she doesn't sleep between you.

What can you see happening in the future, nothing different? Hubby isn't going to rock the boat is he?

Madamum18 · 01/03/2024 18:56

The real problem is your husband...being manipulated all his life by a very manipulative mother He needs to break that pattern. And he needs to stand with you on joint parental decisions and tell his mother to butt out

And your responses to MiL ..for a lot of examples you give...look at her; say Oh really! WE dont agree." Then carry on with your own way. When she goes on and on just say Mmm! Or just say there is no point discussing this and then if necessary walk away. When she buffs say toucare sick of hearing gge same thing...and do on. Dont engage in her ridiculous behaviour!!

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 01/03/2024 18:08

On a purely practical level.
The house is in DH's name.
She can hardly kick you both out just because you stand up for yourself and bat back rude comments.

You didn't sign a document before you moved in saying you would agree with everything she demands however unreasonable.

Re the house and the holidays from hell.
What's done is done. You can't change the past.
But you can change how you deal with it/react to it from now on. It doesn't have to be rude either.. you can be polite without being silent.

noodlebugz · 01/03/2024 17:21

You’ve said nothing about your relationship with your husband or why he won’t back you up. If that’s somewhere you don’t want to go to address then suck it up buttercup. Or you have those tough conversations about him backing you up, not accepting the gifts and setting boundaries, and what’ll happen if he can’t or wont prioritise you and your needs as his wife.

petmad · 01/03/2024 14:10

Dont accept any more money unless you need it shes got you over a barrell if you want to work work. money or not nobody dictates to you how to live youre life

Calliopespa · 01/03/2024 09:46

Packetofcrispsplease · 01/03/2024 08:36

Husband and myself have done everything for ourselves and our family with very little to no practical help .
No financial help and no emotional support either .
MIL comments seem very irritating but ultimately harmless .
Goodness I’ve had similar comments from own parents and in laws !
Comments such as -
Oh I would do it that way , why aren’t you doing this , I’d feed the baby that etc etc .
The older one is being spoilt ( she definitely wasn’t 😂) and so on .
Those comments did affect me at first but best to let it wash over you.
Smile and calmly explain why you’re doing certain things , do things your own way when she’s not around

Yes I agree.

I do understand the name comment was hurtful but then you said some unkind things about her own name ( I love flower names!!) so I think that has to be set to one side as an unfortunate exchange.

I also think you could very appropriately just explain that you would love to be included in the adult time with them, rather than being left alone with the children. That isn’t confrontational and actually shows a positive desire for closer involvement, rather than a guns- blazing, divisive approach

The other comments are honestly quite tame and typical of involved grandparents.

You have to take rough with smooth in life and I wouldn’t be torching off a support system of someone who obviously takes a real interest in your dcs and wants what she feels ( doesn’t make her right) is best for them. Many people raise children with no support system either financial or any other input and you never know what life may throw at you and sometimes these slightly interfering interested parties might become a lifeline.

T1Dmama · 01/03/2024 09:43

danialan · 28/02/2024 22:00

@Codlingmoths yeah sort of. He will leave most of his stuff in the kids' part but will go over to his mum's "to help her out" ie bring towels etc, and that leads into a 1-2hr conversation. Then he will be back for a short while, usually just enough for a quick swim with the kids and checking some emails, then his mum wants a cocktail and needs his company because surely she can't drink alone so back he goes for another few hours. By that point we've had lunch with the kids because they got hungry and he was busy "helping" mum with something or just mid conversation, so he has to join his mum for lunch etc. If I ask about it he just says that he can't leave her without company, and im not eating lunch alone as ive got the children (toddlers)

Well @danialan i wouldn’t go on the holidays, tell DH that since MIL sits on an adult only beach and he sits with her you and the children might as well not be there, and it would actually be easier (for you) to watch them at home than on a beach anyway!
As for the name thing, I’d have been so upset with DH! Probably would’ve registered the birth without him and just used the name! What a spineless man!!
If she’s under a year old you can still change the name! We had comments on my daughters name, my mum constantly brought up other people with the same name and said ‘did you like her at school!’ Etc… but we stuck with the name as it’s beautiful and now my mum loves it!… my SIL when naming her two kept the names super private till they were born and then no one could comment on them! Had I had a 2nd child I think I’d have done the same and announced names once born & registered (And too late)..
In your situation I think I’d make excuses not to go round his mums so often, or tell her straight that her constant ‘advice’ actually kisses you off!
or tell DH that actually he’s the one who will have the kids only memory of him on holiday as being on a different beach to them! Or simply don’t go to the beach, leave them to it and spend the day instead by the pool!

AyeupDuck · 01/03/2024 09:21

Mummy’s boy for sure but that stuff she said would kind of wash over me but I’m good at just thinking people can be shit and what do I care what they think of me.

My MIL said in front of me on my wedding day to my husbands friends I really thought you two would get together. She deemed her more suitable. I just thought well I’m not going out of my way for you anymore. I did have the Mother of all arguments with her a few years later and she behaved herself after.

Packetofcrispsplease · 01/03/2024 08:36

Husband and myself have done everything for ourselves and our family with very little to no practical help .
No financial help and no emotional support either .
MIL comments seem very irritating but ultimately harmless .
Goodness I’ve had similar comments from own parents and in laws !
Comments such as -
Oh I would do it that way , why aren’t you doing this , I’d feed the baby that etc etc .
The older one is being spoilt ( she definitely wasn’t 😂) and so on .
Those comments did affect me at first but best to let it wash over you.
Smile and calmly explain why you’re doing certain things , do things your own way when she’s not around

Idontcareboutthestateofmyhair · 01/03/2024 01:34

Honestly? Suck it up.. most DMs/ MILs will have comments regardless of their wealth! It's how you deal with it that counts! You are in a very lucky position, which I am sure you're aware of.. not having to think of work/bills when kids are small gives you a life with your small children most women can only dream about. I get that you feel she is being patronising because of your age, but believe me honey, it wouldn't matter what age you are, olders still know best, even when they don't! Stop fighting a fight you can't win..when she criticises, agree even! Oh of course, museum today...park tomorrow! Enjoy your enviable position of being with your kids to witness every early precious milestone, be grateful that your love for your husband has led you to a life of wealth, and remember just about EVERY new mother has criticism from all older family members! Play the game to your advantage! ❤️

McYummy · 29/02/2024 20:27

You do not need to choose between the financial support and the MIL comments. You do have a choice in how the comments make you feel. Choose to have a private "eye-roll" moment with your DH. Choose to smile and blatantly ignore her. Choose your battles (the name might have been one I'd have taken a stand on). You will not change your MIL. Your DH needs to be in your camp though. If MIL withdraws financial support because she is unable to make you feel shit any more, then that will be entirely on her.

saraclara · 29/02/2024 20:06

IncognitoIsMyFavouriteWord · 29/02/2024 19:56

I don't agree with most posters. Gifts shouldn't come with stipulations of disrespect.

When she bought the house for OPs husband did she say "as long you parent your children the way I say?"

The comments are not okay and MIL should be told.

No-one has said that gifts should come with stipulations.i don't know why you think you're disagreeing because you're saying what virtually everyone has said.

What we're saying in addition though, is that this is what was bound to happen when she and her DH don't take responsibility for and fund their own lives. It's wrong of MIL but OP and DH have facilitated this behaviour and they need to to stop doing that and act like mature adults