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toomanyjellyfish · 26/02/2024 22:42

Help me get some perspective. dP (together 8 months). We have decided to move in together after we've been together a year and the goal is to next year buy a house. I have 75k for a deposit which will help us secure a place. We had a plan to greet a shared bank account, save and basically start to share finances.

This weekend he says his friend who is newly single has messaged to say he wants to go to America to watch a big sports game. DP says he's really keen but I'm miffed for two reasons. 1) we are supposed to save towards our house deposit/ fees. He says he won't go if he thinks it's too expensive and
2) he gets very little holiday entitlement and since all his days were peebooked this year for family events I had hoped that he'd want to spend some time with me.

Am I being selfish? I need perspective.

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Reluctantcareprovider · 27/02/2024 13:40

toomanyjellyfish · 26/02/2024 22:57

Lol, ok ok I'm not crazy (mostly) I absolutely will ring fence my deposit when we buy. The joint savings will be an equal contribution but it's mostly an account to pay our bills from. Sorry but moving in together after one year does not seem that hasty to me. I know there is some Mumsnet formula where we are supposed to be wed or something first but 🤷‍♀️ he's extremely trustworthy, he's not hiding this from me or trying to be sneaky but I just wonder whether our priorities are different

hi, head over to the other trending thread on women whose unmarried partner has done a bunk after 20 something years

marriage is a legal protection- if you’re silly enough to think this doesn’t apply to you and this partner then don’t blame anyone but yourself when you find you have no rights whatsoever to assets accumulated during your relationship in his name.

that aside, the fine if you want to live and buy a property togther and not be married, if no children involved. But for gods sake protect yourself

  1. Buy the property as tenants in common, not joint tenants. Do this legally and have a contract drawn up over what share you each own in proportion to what you have paid. Include what the course of action is if you split up - e.g does one party have first dibs to buy the other out, what if you both want to buy each other out , what if one of you is dragging heals to sell for higher price and other needs money now? Etc
  2. have seperate mortgages as tenants in common. Mortgage companies don’t like it, you’ll both pay slightly more in terms of rates, but it ensure you are each not saddled with debt form the other if it goes tits up
  3. Do not pay wages or let any balance build in the joint account. Use it for just essential bill payments and what you agree for food if sharing cooking and shopping. Come up with budget, review it annual and both pay in a monthly amount to cover these minimal costs. If a balance grows, drop the amount you pay in the next month to reduce the balance. Put only what is necessary each month into it.
  4. do not have any shared accounts for savings. You need the legal protection marriage act provides to protect a shared accounts assets.

but be bloody careful about entering into financial agreement with someone who is still clearly looking for different life than you….if he was absolutely committed to making sacrifices needed for HIM to save a £75k contribution, or at least ANY contribution to a deposit you would not even have had this conversation. He is a spender not saver. You are opposite. Fine to hang out, have a relationship and have fun..but it’s red flags all the way for long term relationship happiness….

opentoadvice88 · 27/02/2024 13:36

I’ll go against the grain here… I started looking at buying a house with my now husband after 6 months & we finally moved in after a year. Engaged at 18 months then married after 2 1/2 years together. We met in our mid 30’s.

However, if he talked about a big trip without actually having anything to contribute towards the purchase I wouldn’t have gone ahead. It doesn’t have to be 50/50 but he must show willing AND that he’s a grown up ready for a grown up life… and mortgage. It sounds like you’re buying a house with your child rather than partner.

The holiday allocation wouldn’t bother me as much as the money tbh!

Stevesellsshells · 27/02/2024 13:30

He's got so many red flags, he's brought a flagpole with your money to display them.

Maddy70 · 27/02/2024 13:21

I think you're rushing into this commitment

The only way I would consider is that is if you bought the house yourself and it is in your name only and he pays you "rent "

Hes not as committed as you are

toomuchfaff · 27/02/2024 13:19

toomanyjellyfish · 26/02/2024 22:57

Lol, ok ok I'm not crazy (mostly) I absolutely will ring fence my deposit when we buy. The joint savings will be an equal contribution but it's mostly an account to pay our bills from. Sorry but moving in together after one year does not seem that hasty to me. I know there is some Mumsnet formula where we are supposed to be wed or something first but 🤷‍♀️ he's extremely trustworthy, he's not hiding this from me or trying to be sneaky but I just wonder whether our priorities are different

you wonder whether your priorities are different?

I'd say that's a big fat yes. You know it - you might not want to accept it but you know it. Not only is he about to go off and spend a ton of cash that has nothing to do with your new house or you; hes also using leave (which means you guys cant go holiday even if you wanted too).

Hes telling you loud and clear that you (and this new house) are not the priority in his life.

AlisonDonut · 27/02/2024 13:18

Adding to the chorus of 'don't be a fucking mug'.

MumMumMumMumMumMumMum · 27/02/2024 13:16

He's landed on his feet with you hasn't he. Wake up!

bergentrain · 27/02/2024 13:16

You have a young child?????

Idontjetwashthefucker · 27/02/2024 13:14

You must be absolutely stark raving bonkers to even consider this!

LauderSyme · 27/02/2024 13:14

LauderSyme · 27/02/2024 13:11

His financial priorities are wildly different to yours. And he's not even slightly sheepish about the disparity! This is not a good basis upon which to start planning a future with your money intermingled.

If I was you, I would want to see some evidence that his economic mindset has shifted to more closely align with mine.

Evidence such as refraining from going on holiday with his mate and instead saving that money!

LauderSyme · 27/02/2024 13:11

His financial priorities are wildly different to yours. And he's not even slightly sheepish about the disparity! This is not a good basis upon which to start planning a future with your money intermingled.

If I was you, I would want to see some evidence that his economic mindset has shifted to more closely align with mine.

CoffeeBeansGalore · 27/02/2024 13:10

Put your £75k into YOUR OWN HOUSE. Not joint. Do not let him move in. He will be a cocklodger spending his money and then yours.

Continue to just date him IF you really want to.

BUT
He can stay in his rented home. He can pay his own bills. Wash his own clothes. Cook his own meals.
You are not his priority. Do not be his meal ticket.

EdgarsTale · 27/02/2024 13:02

Oh wake up OP.

You’ve saved 75k, he has nothing. Why hasn’t he saved anything?

He saw you coming. Do not put your 75k into a joint house or anywhere near him.

mindutopia · 27/02/2024 13:01

You've only been together 8 months and currently have no shared finances. Of course he can go to America with his mate! He'll obviously need to find the funds and it can't mean that he gets out of paying rent for a month to fund it. But you don't actually live together or have shared finances currently. It sounds like things are moving way too quickly for two people who haven't had serious conversations about life goals and responsibilities.

That said, I take a holiday every year abroad and I don't ask dh's permission to go - other than to clear the dates with him to make sure he is around to take care of our dc. I use my own money to fund it, just as he uses his own money to do things he wants to do in his leisure time.

You have to be able to trust that he will keep his financial commitments if you take any on, yes. But beyond that, he can do what he wants with his personal money and his holiday time.

Dweetfidilove · 27/02/2024 12:54

TwylaSands · 26/02/2024 22:47

Youre not being selfish, but you are being absolutely fucking bat shit nuts.

(together 8 months). no time at all. Literally not enough time!

We have decided to move in together after we've been together a year and the goal is to next year buy a house.
this is ok if neither of you have children

I have 75k for a deposit which will help us secure a place.
does he have £75k for a deposit too? How will you ensure that money is protected from him? Does be have money for solicitors? Stamp duty? All money you dont get back when you sell. What is his contribution?

We had a plan to greet a shared bank account, save and basically start to share finances.
are you fucking nuts?! You've known him 8 months!

Edited

What this says!

QueenBitch666 · 27/02/2024 12:28

He saw you coming luv Grin

NewName24 · 27/02/2024 00:10

MonsteraMama · 27/02/2024 00:00

So when you say you're buying a house together what you actually mean is you're buying a house alone. He's contributing nothing to said house. Except his "trustworthy" presence of course.

Moving in together after a year isn't particularly nuts in a good, balanced, equal relationship. Renting together at this point, for instance, would be a sensible next step. Moving in together after a year when there's a huge financial disparity between you, you're planning to buy, and he's already prioritising sportsball and lads trips over spending time with you? During the period of your relationship when he should be the most besotted, devoted and on his absolute best behaviour? Yeah sorry OP that's fucking nuts. You want to spend that deposit money getting your head examined.

This and everything @TwylaSands said right at the start.

If this is true, you do need your head examined.

Of course there is nothing wrong with moving in together at this stage (if you are both child free) - but to rented accommodation, or one of you moving in to the other's home. What you are talking about is just bonkers.

Going on a fab holiday with a mate is a normal thing for someone with no ties to be doing. Only 8 months into a relationship, that, in itself isn't unreasonable. But does evidence you are at different places in your thinking.

MonsteraMama · 27/02/2024 00:00

So when you say you're buying a house together what you actually mean is you're buying a house alone. He's contributing nothing to said house. Except his "trustworthy" presence of course.

Moving in together after a year isn't particularly nuts in a good, balanced, equal relationship. Renting together at this point, for instance, would be a sensible next step. Moving in together after a year when there's a huge financial disparity between you, you're planning to buy, and he's already prioritising sportsball and lads trips over spending time with you? During the period of your relationship when he should be the most besotted, devoted and on his absolute best behaviour? Yeah sorry OP that's fucking nuts. You want to spend that deposit money getting your head examined.

Mother87 · 26/02/2024 23:53

TempleOfBloom · 26/02/2024 22:52

Team AFBSN

(Absolutely Fucking..etc)

Yes again!!

Mother87 · 26/02/2024 23:52

Yep AFBSN!!

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 26/02/2024 23:46

You're not on the same page at all OP. I think your judgement is off here, its not just MN where people would say don't buy with someone you've known 8 months, child or no child it's not a good decision. Ring fencing isn't a simple answer and it will still be hard and potentially costly getting out of the financial ties. You have a child to think of anf you don't even know how he'll handle being a bigger part of your child's life. Rent somewhere together, keep the current 75K in your name only, start a joint savings account you both add to and a joint current account for bills, see if he pays reliably, if he can save and see how he goes living with you and your child. Your risking a lot buying together without working out if your actually compatable living together.

KissMyArt · 26/02/2024 23:45

You're being ridiculous OP (both of you).

If you want to move in together after only a year that's fine, but just bloody rent for a couple of years while you get to know each other.

SapphOhNo · 26/02/2024 23:41

Jeeez OP. Rent together first before committing to owning a house with someone.

sparepantsandtoothbrush · 26/02/2024 23:41

He has no savings compared to your £75k? He sounds like a catch

WakeMeAtYourPeril · 26/02/2024 23:38

You’ve got £75k in savings and he’s got nothing? I’m sorry OP, he saw you coming a mile away.

Normal people RENT together for a year or two to see if they can actually stand living together- including finding out whether you are on the same page about how you spend your money, as you clearly aren’t at the moment. No rent paid for this purpose is wasted because it’s cheaper than having to sell and after only a year when it goes tits up. What’s the rush to buy? Interest rates are ridiculous right now anyway and the market isn’t the best. You could be trapped living with someone you can’t stand who you’ve only known 5 minutes and all your savings will be tied up and some even may be lost in early repayment charges etc.

Just wait and rent for a bit. If he’s as okay as you seem to think then what’s the hurry to go all in when it’s significantly more risky for you.