To say that the next generation is primarily screwed in terms of resilience

Yes this is definitely part of the problem

It cuts both ways imo

but the act of going back to school shouldn’t actually be traumatic - if you are indeed resilient.

I mean you have literally said what I said here...

Yeah, but that's because the resources weren't offered to people, isn't it? I am older and me and some of my peers sometimes talk about how many of the people we were at school with obviously needed help with their mental health. it just wasn't seen as an issue and they were left to get on with it (with disastrous consequences in some cases).

And in 2022 Gen X were once again the age group with the highest suicide rate in the uk

So maybe not as resilience as the insouciant posts about 70s kids would make out?

Perhaps more support when you were younger would have helped your generation more when the problems showed themselves later?

I learnt everything I need to know about you from your op.

Well done if you had a bit of a "road to Damascus" moment after that though.

Eh? They weren’t in a war. They (the majority obvs) didn’t have cancer treatment. They were at home with some parental stress and Netflix? Not trying to say it was easy - it wasn’t, I was there - but come on that’s not really the biggest example of resilience, is it? Going back to school after a year off? Of course being frightened about Covid was incredibly scary and traumatic but the act of going back to school shouldn’t actually be traumatic - if you are indeed resilient.

Ms son is autistic and has an EHCP. We have always known he was autistic. He is not allowed to opt out of things that make him uncomfortable. I have told him he will be autistic for life and the world can not bend to meet his needs, he must be able to learn strategies to cope.

I think it’s a fine balance, both my two have ASD/ADHD with a load of trauma in the mix. I push them to move out of their comfort zone and do things they find uncomfortable but they also need to know when it’s ok to say “no”. They’re still growing, their coping strategies are still developing and will change as they mature.

Part of my role as a parent is to help them find balance, which their conditions make quite tricky because their thinking is very black and white. I’m very attuned to when something genuinely is too much, when they need some down time and when it’s beneficial to just get on with it.

Early 70s. During the miners strike and no coal reaching power stations there were rolling blackouts in different areas.
We stayed off school. Had no electricity some days at home. I don’t remember a squeak about special arrangements to catch up with schoolwork/ angry parents/ gov special measures We just missed some school then caught up afterwards.

Yes, because throwing money at the problem will clearly fix it. Nhs funding is at highest level ever, but more people than ever are struggling with mental health, on long wait lists for ops etc. Its not a lack of money - its a lack of direction, abuse of a system by both staff and patients , poor management, lack of self responsibility. No idea what the solution is, no one will properly overhaul on 'iconic, precious, sacred' nhs as its seen as untouchable

I agree.

It's very worrying that the OP seems to work with young people and yet is at best dismissive and at worst mocking of any trauma.

It's people like that who exacerbated my daughter's trauma throughout her education.

My brother has dyslexia. Told by my mother that it merely meant he had to work harder than most people to get the same results at reading/ writing etc. He's now 40 and in an area manager position earning 70 k. Doubt he would've done so well if Mum had the attitude of " oh well you can't do it" and made excuses

Personally I think it all comes down to lack of enforcement of boundaries , in the same way that there are so many unruly dogs around !
Some things aren't optional,going to school, leaving your room, eating as a family, doing your home work, going to lectures at uni etc etc. If your whole upbringing has been centred around YOUR feelings and wants and then you go out into the world and have to actually follow some instructions, turn up for work etc, of course it's going to be a horrible shock.

Whilst I agree with you about social media Im not sure Gen X can be so blasé about MH issues statistically!

Its OK everyone because according to some hopeful people once the Labour Party get in charge everything will be OK. 😆😆

Stop being so stupid and stop reading/believing everything you watch/read on social media and the Daily Mail.

People like you live in an echo chamber and need to start thinking for yourselves.

Try looking around rather than learning everything you know from some extreme influencer that represents a minute portion of the population. Also stop watching the other end of the spectrum who whip people like you up into a frenzy.

I don't know. We couldn't go to school during the late 1970s oil shortages as they couldn't heat the buildings. No drama; we just had to walk into school to pick up work set by the teachers and do ut at home. Only my parents left school at 14, in the early 60s, so couldn't really help and the library was also shut.

I think social media has a heck of a lot to do with youngsters' problems nowadays.

Yes, it can become a self fulfilling situation in some cases perhaps

Suggestion is powerful

I agree op - see it in spades with teenage niece and nephew, if it doesn’t suit them they won’t do it.
Their great uncle died recently and neither went to the funeral cos they wouldn’t get out of bed.
Nephew has mild learning difficulties but SIL and BIL go out of their way so he wont be upset/ inconvenienced ever.
I just feel like they are not doing them any favours for when they are adults and have to do things that don’t want to do. I worry for their futures tbh.

I blame a lot of this on Social media. There are thousands and thousands of posts on tiktok for e.g. that explain the symptoms of different mental illnesses. All of these symptoms are normal feelings and emotions that everyone feel. Where people seem to get confused is that feeling these emotions are normal and does not equate to mental illness. Once a person has labelled themselves they then start to become that person as that's who they believe they are. A little bit of knowledge can be a dangerous thing and people don't seem to understand feeling nervous or shy isn't anxiety, feeling sad isn't depression, being tidy isn't ocd.

Most people I know are on anti depressants or anti anxiety meds and most have teenagers/ young adult children on medication or unable to work due to mental health. I don't know what the answer is. I do think the mental health issues card is pulled too often - there is a difference between mental health struggles and having to deal with a problem or getting stressed with a situation. My son is doing his GCSE's at the moment and is getting overwhelmed with all the work, he is stressed (like a lot of yr 11's!!) but he doesn't have a mental health issue. I am sure even low level stress now is being branded as a mental health issue.

😂😂😂😂I didn’t start this thread you did.

No just pointing out that strategies are there to support autistic people they’re not there to set boundaries or to modify behaviour previously referred to by said poster.

That sounds soul destroying.
So many parents seem to give the impression that their child is perfect, when no one is. Again it's the media, the class whatts app group where the parebts can be worse than the children and everyine knows everyones business

Children make mistakes, they are sometimes little sh1t's and they are sometimes acting up to mask other problems. But parents need to work collaboratively with schools and vice versa. Presenting this 'perfect' impression is part of the problem, children then feel they need to try to live up to it, rather than being told 'yes you made a mistake, and that's ok, but you need to own it and apologise/try to make it right.