To be angry that Scarlet Blake is being called a woman.

Yes I think so - they mean that I read about in the news, I think.

Er... how else are the public supposed to stay informed about anything?

Yes I think so - they mean that I read about in the news, I think.

Can I ask how you sent your complaint? They seem to have sent me a response based on the fact this isn't something which has happened to me directly.

It's probably some copy and paste response they're using for multiple complaints about this issue @LittleCharlotte

I got a response from the police saying as I was complaining about something I'd read on social media they weren't taking my complaint any further. I'm totally lost as I never referred to social media in my complaint. I've gone back with a link to the Telegraph article, asking if it is accurate. Very odd!

The police started using 'gender' on forms years ago, to deal with the pea-brains who wrote "yes please" in the box marked 'sex'.

I don't know what part of the Act Appendix L is in but there are several statutory Codes. POLICE AND CRIMINAL EVIDENCE ACT 1984
CODE A
CODE OF PRACTICE FOR THE EXERCISE BY:
POLICE OFFICERS OF STATUTORY POWERS OF STOP
AND SEARCH
POLICE OFFICERS AND POLICE STAFF OF
REQUIREMENTS TO RECORD PUBLIC ENCOUNTERS

This has a section about recording sex, or as the heading has it, Gender:
ANNEX F ESTABLISHING GENDER OF PERSONS FOR THE PURPOSE OF
SEARCHING

Paragraph 3 uses sex and gender:
[In part]:
"Consideration
3. At law, the gender of an individual is their gender as registered at birth unless they possess a gender recognition certificate as issued under section 9 of the Gender Recognition Act 2004, in which case the person’s gender is the acquired gender.
(a) If there is no doubt as to the sex of a person, or there is no reason to suspect
that the person is not the sex that they appear to be, they should be dealt with
as that sex.
(b) A person who possesses a gender recognition certificate must be treated as
their acquired gender.
(c) If the police are not satisfied that the person possesses a gender recognition
certificate and there is doubt as to a person’s gender, the person should be
asked what gender they consider themselves to be. If the person expresses a
preference to be dealt with as a particular gender, they should be asked to sign
the search record, the officer’s notebook or, if applicable, their custody record,
to indicate and confirm their preference. If appropriate, the person should be
treated as being that gender."

[Continues]

NOTE: This version says copyright 2010. They are updated when there's new legislation that PACE applies to or for other changes.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a7a3076ed915d6eaf154650/pace-code-a-2011.pdf

I expect the College of Policing is somewhere in the mix.

So the police are following statute. But
I'm assuming that it's the use of the word 'gender' which is the problem.
I suspect that in 1984, the idea was to ensure that detainees were recorded by sex. At some point, 'gender' started to be used. Then all bets were off!

Yes, that sounds plausible!

@Ereshkigalangcleg
I haven't got the legislation in front of me but the letter to Home Sec states that it's PACE 1984 which sets out the current requirements. There is apparently an Appendix L which defines the process by which an 'individual' s gender' should be recorded.
So the police are following statute. But
I'm assuming that it's the use of the word 'gender' which is the problem.
I suspect that in 1984, the idea was to ensure that detainees were recorded by sex. At some point, 'gender' started to be used. Then all bets were off!

Does this "record by self ID" message come from the College of Policing or similar quango?

Having had activists 'get ahead of the law' by pushing this bullcrap into systems and wrecking them, we're now going to need a few years of the law 'catching up' and putting a stop to it all.

The very quick response I got from Thames Valley Police was a statement from the Police and Crime Commissioner Matthew Barber, linked to a letter to the Home Sec, saying that the law must be changed to require police to record crime according to sex as well as 'someone' s preferred gender'.
Reading between the lines, I think that the issue for the police is that they currently have to record by 'gender', and as we all know that allows any old shit to be stated because no one knows what gender is meant to mean. (I'm sure when it was first used, it was as a synonym for sex, but of course now it means anything anyone wants it to mean).

Bear in mind there will now be fuckwits poddling about the prison service and MoJ discussing 'how many women prisoners are held in this male prison?'

NONE you bellends. Not one. Males with interesting identity choices? Yes, very probably.

Yes, I don’t like it either. He isn’t a woman, he’s a bloke and I’m glad he’s been sent to a male prison. He can rot in hell for what he did.

Given that Blake is going to a male prison, this makes absolutely ZERO sense. As ever. Lots of complaints to fire off today.

Anyone who is in that area definitely should.

I could maybe at least understand the "logic" if crimes committed by people with a GRC were recorded under the sex corresponding to the "acquired gender". I'd still think it was plain wrong and bonkers but could at least understand there to be a basis for it.... legal gender/sex (p.s. what a fucking clown show the GRA is when it collideseith reality and other laws!). But self-ID based and no coherence across forces... what a fucking pile.

Oh my giddy aunt I'm raging.

Well in that case I'm a fucking unicorn! Good luck with that, statisticians!!!

Not that it makes any difference in my mind but does he even have a GRC? Or are we using de facto self ID for crime statistics now?

Some police forces have been doing this for over a decade.

Nonononooooo!!!!! Fuck fuck fuck!!!! I just had that horrible sinking feeling when you know you're being screwed over sideways but are powerless to do anything about it 😭

I too am wondering on what basis this decision was made. Surely there will be some guidance on this topic? Who is in charge of crime stats? The ONS?

Oh fuck that.

There is no way any male on the planet is female, that's bloody ridiculous.

But good, that's hit the national press, that ought to lead to everyone going 'for fucks sake'. Recant in 3....2....1....