To be angry that Scarlet Blake is being called a woman.

Of course the women prison aren’t “innocent”.

They're not "innocent" but most of them are there for relatively minor financial and drugs offences, rather than live-streaming the torture and killing of cats and murdering men in cold blood.

Is there actually something wrong with you?

Scarlet Blake is male, regardless of feelz, so will go to a male prison. He won't be the only transwoman in that prison, he won't be the most unpleasant person in that prison. He will be exactly what he has tried not to be - a nondescript sex murderer with paraphilias, just like half the other men on his wing. I am sure in a few years, he will feel right at home.

Why not put Scarlet is put in a cell with Lucy Letby? Sarah Barrass? Take your pick.

Because Scarlett doesn't belong anywhere in the female estate.
That's all there is to it.

Scarlett Blake is not a woman.

Why not put Scarlet is put in a cell with Lucy Letby? Sarah Barrass? Take your pick.

They can be psychopath friends.

By the same token, why not put him in a cell with Levi Bellfield or Ian Huntley? They were only violent towards women and girls. Scarlet, as an obvious male, would be fine.

Scarlet is a threat because she (he in your view) is a psychopath and a murderer, not because they are trans.

Why not put Scarlet is put in a cell with Lucy Letby? Sarah Barrass? Take your pick.

They can be psychopath friends.

He is a threat to everyone. He has already murdered a man in a pre-meditated fashion. He wasn't afraid of that person was he? The threat is not ideological/philosophical it is real. Perhaps some of the men in prison will also be afraid of him - considering he is a sadistic murderer?

Of course the women prison aren’t “innocent”. They are however vulnerable and are in the state’s care. This means that the authorities have a responsibility to keep them safe, particularly as they are incarcerated and cannot remove themselves from harm’s way. Incarcerating them alongside violent males would be a huge failure in the state’s duty of care.

Also it's O, not E, in this country.

There's an entire pseudoscience around it called autogynephilia. It's played a big role in the development of transphobia for decades.

Literally everyone has come across at least one sexually motivated crossdresser in their lives. Please don't try to piss down our backs and tell us it's raining, as the saying goes.

Oh wait, so this talk of E. Is a woman someone with particular hormones in their body? Is that the determining factor?

He'll doubtless be put in the 'vulnerable' category for his own protection - partly because of his 'trans identity' and partly because of the particularly vile nature of his crimes.

As someone pointed out on the Reddit thread, the proportion of women in prison for sexual violence is significantly lower than that of men/MTFs.

I still have no idea what a "cis" woman is supposed to be. A feminine female? A female who is aware they have a female body? I'm fairly sure I'm not cis, which might make me trans.

As usual no-one ever explains even one thing that would differentiate between being cis or trans. I used to think it was wanting to be the opposite sex but apparently sex isn't what makes you a woman or a man, it's something else but they won't say what, or are pretending to know but don't.

I've taken some time to think about your reply and thank you for replying.

You know you could save your energies to worry about the safety and treatment of peaceful/law abiding people whatever their sex or gender or even to fight for the rights and support of peaceful/law abiding trans people if you so choose.

Why waste your time worrying about what treatment a sadistic, animal torturing murderer will receive? It would be interesting for you to ask yourself if you would be worried about what treatment a plain old man or woman with the same background of criminality would receive. Yes a plain old man or woman could be attacked in prison sexually or otherwise, they could be stabbed or even killed. Are you worried about that? I'm not - they should have thought of that before they committed pre-meditated murder.

Why not save your emotional energies for the innocent?

There's an entire pseudoscience around it called autogynephilia. It's played a big role in the development of transphobia for decades.

You can see the affects in this thread when people seem to think Scarlet is going to be some sexual threat to women in prison - when in reality trans women tend to have very low sex drives and certainly cannot "do it" as a man could.

She is a threat to women, but because she is a psychopath, not because she is a trans woman. Yet that seems to have flown under the radar??

You make it sound like the women in prison are innocent. Assuming Scarlet is on E and continues getting it whilst in prison, why not put Scarlet in prison with other murderers?

The punishment for the women in prison is the incarceration itself, not being locked in with a violent, dangerous man. What a shocking thing to say.

I haven't the slightest interest in his hormone arrangements. I'm sure he can be prescribed some if necessary but as prisons are not segregated by hormones it's not relevant to where he is housed.

'Cis' is not a useful or appropriate prefix for women because no prefix is needed; women are not a sub category. There are not different types of women.

It's only used to reduce and belittle us, therefore a lot of us don't take to it. HTH.

You make it sound like the women in prison are innocent. Assuming Scarlet is on E and continues getting it whilst in prison, why not put Scarlet in prison with other murderers?

Then again, trans healthcare in this country is nigh-on impossible to get these days so most trans women import their hormones from abroad in desperation and hope it doesn't get seized (as women here would do if they had high testosterone levels and couldn't get it elsewhere).

So the result is Scarlet will probably masculinise in prison, and will end up suicidal to boot, so that will complicate things.

People think that people who are sexual deviants are sexual deviants. Please post the posts here that proclaim all transgender people are sexual deviants.

This seems to be a strawman that you have built to claim some kind of victim status.

There is vitriol on this thread against a murderer who tortured animals. And a good deal of anger towards the media for lying.

I think you are seeing 'vitriol about trans people' because you can't see anything that doesn't centre your 'gender identity'. Just as you cannot imagine or empathise with women in prison with transwomen, because you only see the transwoman as human and worthy of your compassion.

The rest of us just see men and women.

Yes, exactly.