Roundabout collision - who is at fault? With diagram

I get that, but what if you're on a very busy roundabout? People behind you are going to get impatient.

My driving instructor always told me that even if a car indicates, not to pull out until they have already turned so I would say that the car pulling out should have waited

@Notcheekyvimto

it seems like the blue car is at fault. The blue car was entering the roundabout from the left-hand exit (the car park), which typically requires yielding to traffic already on the roundabout. Since the red car was already on the roundabout and proceeding straight, the blue car should have yielded to the red car.

I had exact same crash I was the red car ,road markings same as yours at the roundabout, blue car is at fault.

I think red car because they should indicate & move over before turning off of the roundabout. However it does depend on how close that blue car came into the roundabout & whether in practice blue car should have waited

Blue car at fault.
Did the other driver try and blame you?
Make sure your insurers do not accept any sort of 50/50 cis they can't be arsed to fight it. Clear case of failing to give way.

From the street view photo the blue car driver didn’t seem to look where he/she was going. I hope you are okay OP. I have experienced near misses on roundabouts simply because other drivers are not paying attention or try to undercut me.

I know this roundabout very well, blue car at fault. The exit from the park is very close to the left turn, they must have pulled out before the roundabout was clear which is why you ran into them.

Good advice. I once had a collision which was 100% the other driver’s fault, but the other insurer wanted to go 50/50. I told them no, I wouldn’t accept that, and that I would see them in court. (I had legal cover). Half an hour later I got a phone call back saying they would accept full liability.

They obviously knew they had no chance of winning if it went to court, and were hoping I’d be scared of going to court and accept 50/50.

Stand your ground OP.

Blue car is at fault, as long as the red car was indicating appropriately. If the red car was not indicating at all then the bluecar would have assumed they were going right. The red car should have been indicating that they
were taking the next left. If the red car was not indicating I think they were at fault. Had tney been indicating the blue car wouldn’t have pulled out thinking they could go straight on.

Yes definitely re think that. They are inexpensive, and are invaluable for proving what really happened when some idiot crashes into you and tries to blame you.

I have one discreetly fitted behind my rear view mirror. It comes on automatically when I start the car, so it’s just fit and forget about it, and if you ever have a crash the evidence is there.

I’m astounded that there are still so few people who have them. A quick survey walking down my road the other day. I counted 30 parked cars, only one of which had a dash cam in it.

I was in a situation like this, but fortunately without a collision. It was just after I'd passed my test. One of my first drives out. Approached a simple roundabout near my house. A car was approaching from my right. It was signalling left. I assumed it was taking the exit I was leaving, so I pulled out. The car kept coming and I had to brake to avoid hitting it.

The car was a driving school car, and the accompanying driver was the examiner who'd just passed my test!! Embarrassing... but I doubt he recognised me.

She joined the roundabout and then (correctly) signalled left after she passed the exit to the park.

Oh right. Yes if red car signalled left AFTER passing the first exit then blue car was at fault.

Even if the blue car misread your intentions (thought you were going right and not straight) they still shouldn't have assumed. Where I live people always mis-signal or don't signal for exits on 4/5 exit 2/3 lane roundabouts. I just take the stance of never assuming anything and wait until you're sure it's clear, and that's roundabouts I'm fully familiar with.
I'd say blue car fault but fear insurance will go 50/50.

Blue car at fault. This happened to me a few years back. Blue car's insurers wanted to make it 50/50 but fortunately I had legal cover and it was deemed that I wasn't at fault as I was already on the roundabout.

It will go 50/50 on insurance unless one car admits liability or there is cctv/dashcam or witnesses. I’ve been the red car in this situation, didn’t matter I was already on the roundabout and they were in the wrong lane, if it’s one word against other particularly on a roundabout it will typically go 50/50 unfortunately. I also work in car insurance and have seen examples of this same type of claim multiple times.

Ah we've found one. You absolutely should signal left before talking your exit on a roundabout, regardless of whether it is first left, straight on or after signaling right to approach an exit beyond straight across. Are you one of those that sails straight across while the rest of us try and guess your intentions?

The blue car shouldn’t have indicated left unless it was taking the first left. It’s irrelevant whether they knew the area as it is the rule. In any case, it also shouldn’t have entered the roundabout until you had passed them. Tough if it is very busy as they would have to wait but if very quiet, as you say, then just wait until it is clear or a big enough gap comes free.

I can’t see in any way why this would be a 50/50. Insurers can tell from the damage to the cars who hit whom and in what position. Make sure you give the good diagrams, OP, and hope you have photos.

Reading some of these responses with interest. It’s common to have a roundabout on a two-lane road (eg a dual carriage way) where there are two lanes going straight on across the roundabout exiting in to two lanes, to keep the flow of traffic.

To those saying you shouldn’t go straight on in a right hand side lane - am I missing something? Surely you only mean when the road wasn’t already a two lane road?

ps 100% blue cars fault, I can’t see how you would be responsible at all for this. You had priority as you were on the roundabout, and assume you were inducting left (once you’d passed the park exit) to show you were coming off.

I think some posters are being harsh!

You were clearly in the right, following the arrows on the road. The blue car (a) should not have entered the roundabout when you were on it, (b) should not have been indicating left, and (c) should have left enough space for you to leave the roundabout instead of assuming you were going right, ESPECIALLY since she didn't know the area!!

*on. Not that there's any point as I've just seen how many posts and you've probably answered already.

Why did the red car indicate left if going straight in? Why did you?

I had a very near miss in the exact same circumstances! Fortunately we both stopped in time and the bloke waved his hands in apology 😂

I dont get it though. Why do people struggle so much with roundabouts? Where did he think you were going to go when he was blocking your exit and crashing into you?!

@Stayeduptoolateagain

I'm afraid your instructor was incorrect -possibly to make you super safe. HGV drivers are taught that roundabouts are filter systems - otherwise big vehicles could never enter them.

Technically, you'd never ever leave the approach to the roundabout! (If you waited an waited....)
Ive been driving for 50 years including busy cities. You can't wait for an empty roundabout. I was certainly never taught that. It does seem to be an issue that some drivers treat a roundabout as T-junction.