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Karen’s Diner/Katie Hopkins - cancel?

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RosaMoline · 16/02/2024 22:56

Quick question:
In the words of Mumsnet, AIBU?
It’s my eldest’s 30th this year, and as a surprise I’ve planned a day out for us on March 17th. We’re going to Hello Kitty cafe, Priscilla the Party and ending up in Karen’s Diner in Islington.
Some of you might know Karen’s from Social media. You basically get insulted and it looks very amusing.
I see from their insta, they’re doing some kind of collaboration with Katie Hopkins in their Manchester and Birmingham restaurants I think.
I am horrified and have left comments to that effect.
I actually feel that I want to cancel, and it’s a shame as it’s something we’d wanted to do for ages.
I however, cannot give my hard earned ££ to an organisation that is giving a platform to a racist right wing Trump supporting bigot.
Am I being unreasonable to cancel our reservation??

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Jumpingthruhoops · 17/02/2024 10:23

I wouldn't bank on it. KH's popularity has grown significantly in recent years - she currently has over 600,000 followers on Instagram and her tours regularly sell out - because she's not afraid to say what many people are thinking.
Karen's wouldn't have hired her if there wasn't demand. But it's OK if it's not your thing. I'm sure if you cancel someone else will snap the table up.

LuluBlakey1 · 17/02/2024 10:21

I wonder what the world is coming to when I read stuff like this OP. Utter waste of money. Who goes to a restaurant where their speciality is insulting and being rude to guests and thinks it's some sort of treat? Why are you surprised they work with scum like Katie Hopkins- of course they do, that's her speciality too; she makes a living from stuff like this. Can't you see how tacky and vulgar and horrible this is as an entertainment. Or is it 'just banta', 'a bit of fun'? I think it's scummy and shows how much our cultural mores have shifted in recent years.
You really must not understand any of this at all if you are prepared to pay to experience people being insulted and then say you have an objection if Katie Hopkins is involved- it's all part of the same thing!
The next thing will be papers full of articles from people hurt by the insults, restaurants accused of 'insensitivity' 'going to far' 'isms - sexism, racism, ageism in their 'humour'.

Baldieheid · 17/02/2024 10:21

I bet working in that environment takes a toll, actually.
We all can bellow names at someone that has pissed us off, but for it to be customers in a cafe and you're being asked to ca them names all shift, that would be weird. I wonder how many staff have taken a taxi home and called the driver "ya cunt" out of habit?

Brawcolli · 17/02/2024 10:21

SherbetDips · 17/02/2024 00:11

Fantastic I love Katie Hopkins. Someone who isn’t afraid to speak her mind and upset the woke brigade.

’The woke brigade’ please grow up

oakleaffy · 17/02/2024 10:18

@RosaMoline Never hears of Karen's but googled just now and it's ghastly...so utterly chavvy and unfunny.

YABU for wanting to go there and pay to have idiots swear at you and act like a cretin with zero manners.

Baldieheid · 17/02/2024 10:17

Whenwillitgetwarm · 17/02/2024 10:05

Calm down, and get off the soap box, KH isn’t being cancelled and will continue making more money than you from being a professional troll.

However, OP does have the right to not have to pay to have said troll yelling at her about the ‘final solution’ whilst she’s eating an overpriced bad burger and oily chips.

Don't get your knickers in a twist, lovey.

Not really sure what about my post set you off but rest assured, I'm sure many many many people (yes, even YOU) are far more financially successful than I am.

Feel better?

LadyWithLapdog · 17/02/2024 10:17

@imnotgoodenoughtobehere FWIW all in our family love the name Karen. From the little girl in Outnumbered. She was great and will always be the first association I make for this name.

Maireas · 17/02/2024 10:15

Flamme · 17/02/2024 10:11

Who on this thread is saying Hopkins shouldn't have freedom of speech? It's a perfectly simple point - she can say what she wants, this restaurant chain can employ her, customers don't have to listen to her and have the right to withdraw their custom from that restaurant chain as a result of their decision.

I agree. That's what I said.

Nightowl1234 · 17/02/2024 10:14

Katie Hopkins is appalling. And if anyone supports her, they’re clearly supporting racism which makes them a …… We all know the answer.

Advicerequest · 17/02/2024 10:11

CharSiu · 16/02/2024 23:25

@LadyWithLapdog it was called Wong Kei , I’m actually Chinese and didn’t want to go but my friends insisted, this would have have been about 25 years ago. The food was crap, I found it all deeply uncomfortable. No idea if it is still there.

I think the Karen’s diner thing is just awful.

It's been there for years and is still there
it was just grumpy service - they weren't being ironic or clamouring for social media likes (there were no like to clamour for)

LovelyTheresa · 17/02/2024 10:11

coodawoodashooda · 16/02/2024 22:59

Katie Hopkins is alright.

If you like fascists, yes she is great. Otherwise, no.

Flamme · 17/02/2024 10:11

Maireas · 17/02/2024 10:04

I know.
However. I am responding to other points, viz, freedom of speech.

Who on this thread is saying Hopkins shouldn't have freedom of speech? It's a perfectly simple point - she can say what she wants, this restaurant chain can employ her, customers don't have to listen to her and have the right to withdraw their custom from that restaurant chain as a result of their decision.

ImCamembertTheBigCheese · 17/02/2024 10:10

CharSiu · 16/02/2024 23:25

@LadyWithLapdog it was called Wong Kei , I’m actually Chinese and didn’t want to go but my friends insisted, this would have have been about 25 years ago. The food was crap, I found it all deeply uncomfortable. No idea if it is still there.

I think the Karen’s diner thing is just awful.

It is still there. We went once in the 80's as it was a novelty. I wasn't a fan as I didn't like being made to sit with others on their very large round tables.

Flamme · 17/02/2024 10:09

Charlie2121 · 17/02/2024 06:49

Katie Hopkins and Tommy Robinson for that matter are attacked because of people’s inability to listen to what they actually say.

They are demonised because of how people characterise them. That is easier for many on the left to do because it prevents them from ever having to respond to the points being made.

As the famous quote from Margaret Thatcher goes “If they attack you personally it means they have not a single political argument left”

That pretty much sums up the left these days.

No, they are attacked for what they actually say, with every justification. Pretending otherwise is just lazy, and indicates that, if anything, you haven't listened to or read what those in disagreement with these two are actually saying. It's all on record, and we can all see and hear for ourselves how repellent what they actually say is is. You are living in fantasyland if you believe anything else.

thebabessavedme · 17/02/2024 10:07

Tbh the whole day sounds awful.

SausageRoll5862 · 17/02/2024 10:07

Cancel! Hideous Hopkins is the scum of the earth.

Maireas · 17/02/2024 10:06

Whenwillitgetwarm · 17/02/2024 10:05

Calm down, and get off the soap box, KH isn’t being cancelled and will continue making more money than you from being a professional troll.

However, OP does have the right to not have to pay to have said troll yelling at her about the ‘final solution’ whilst she’s eating an overpriced bad burger and oily chips.

..in a diner based on a vile misogynist trope..

Whenwillitgetwarm · 17/02/2024 10:05

Baldieheid · 17/02/2024 08:27

I really dislike many of the things KH has said, but I will defend her right to bloody say them.

If we start censoring speech because it's not what we, personally, believe, then we might as well say goodbye to democracy.

You do not have a right to not be offended.

Calm down, and get off the soap box, KH isn’t being cancelled and will continue making more money than you from being a professional troll.

However, OP does have the right to not have to pay to have said troll yelling at her about the ‘final solution’ whilst she’s eating an overpriced bad burger and oily chips.

Maireas · 17/02/2024 10:04

Oneofthesurvivors · 17/02/2024 10:02

Not give money to an establishment that collaborates with her? Which is the point of the post.

Edited

I know.
However. I am responding to other points, viz, freedom of speech.

TheAverageJoanne · 17/02/2024 10:02

I've done some very basic Facebook research. The chain started in Sheffield and that's closed or closing shortly. I've seen pictures of people at various branches wearing stupid hats saying "my fanny has dried up", "I sell my mucky knickers online" etc. I don't get how this is funny.

Oneofthesurvivors · 17/02/2024 10:02

Maireas · 17/02/2024 09:58

So what would you do?
Ban Katie Hopkins from speaking? Put her under house arrest? Most of us find her views unpalatable, but until she breaks the law, she can continue.

Not give money to an establishment that collaborates with her? Which is the point of the post.

Zone2NorthLondon · 17/02/2024 10:01

coodawoodashooda · 16/02/2024 22:59

Katie Hopkins is alright.

alright? I suppose if you like ticklist insults that she regurgitates for money and attention
Ghastly woman

Maireas · 17/02/2024 09:58

So what would you do?
Ban Katie Hopkins from speaking? Put her under house arrest? Most of us find her views unpalatable, but until she breaks the law, she can continue.

TiredCatLady · 17/02/2024 09:58

lemonmeringueno3 · 17/02/2024 07:04

There is a diner at Walt Disney World in Florida where the staff are (intentionally) rude and insulting, so this is a thing even if mn doesn't get it.

The KH thing wouldn't bother me. She's appearing for one night at their Manchester branch.

I think that’s “Prime Time Diner” you mean? The staff aren’t rude per se, more a “has everyone washed their hands? Up you get go wash your hands” and things like you’re not getting any dessert because you didn’t eat all your vegetables. Have been there, food was really good as was the live music. One of our party didn’t enjoy it as they got a telling off for picking something off someone else’s plate.

Different concept to this Karen’s Diner thing with grown men shouting cunt at children and by all accounts bloody awful food (from a friend who was unwillingly dragged to the Manchester one).

But yes OP please do cancel - KH is vile.

Over40Overdating · 17/02/2024 09:57

It’s no surprise we have the government we do when people are claiming KH is some kind of political freedom of speech fighter, with a straight face.

She is a failed reality TV star rent a gob whose only way to get attention or maintain any level of public interest and money is to say whatever will get her most coverage. If you don’t like her opinion she has plenty more you can pay her to spout.

Her only guiding principle in life is to do whatever necessary to get attention for herself.

She has zero integrity or political belief.
She is now a ranting YT ‘star’ making a big deal about slurping £5 bottles of wine in her online ‘pub’ to show she’s one of the people whilst saying things like Kate Garraway is on the payroll of the shadowy cabal trying to forcibly vaccinate everyone for nefarious gains. She comes across as desperate and lonely. And deservedly so.

Much like her mates Tommy Robinson - or Stephen Yaxley Lennon, son of immigrants who wants to live in Spain as he’s otherwise known - or Nigel Farage, who claimed EU citizenship via his immigrant wife as soon as Brexit was won, KH is a hollow vessel grifter who will eventually be replaced by someone with even more vile rent-an-outrage opinions.