My husband still thinks everything is because of Covid

But this is nuts.

I think Chat GP is having an off day 😉. The replies from the CT’s all seem very similar in style. Perhaps they have a cut and paste user manual?

'no forecasts made by natural process deniers' please explain what that sentence even means. @Larmani

OP - poor you. DH got stuck next to a guy at dinner the other week who was telling him about Bill Gates and microchips being injected into people. DH has worked in various tech his whole career and was trying to tell him it’s impossible to inject microchips into people through the vaccine 😂 DH kept trying to change the subject but this guy really wanted to talk about it for the whole of dinner!

i can’t imagine having to live with someone with these ideas - it seems impossible for them to see things differently and these discussions just get so tedious…I don’t have any solution for you, just sending you my sympathy

Climate change deniers really have their heads in the sand. It doesn’t take a scientist to see what is going on around us.

If it’s cock up or conspiracy- it’s cock up every time.

Just tell him he's a daft twat

I don't believe in so-called net zero as a solution to anything and I don't believe in attacking people with opinions, preferring to discuss arguments presented.

Your post says more about you than it does me. No forecasts made by natural process deniers have occurred.

I think it's because they weren't political tools

@taxguru

"I'm sure it's worse now, but it's not all because of covid. Covid has just increased the problem of late diagnosis."

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I fully agree, it is not Covid or the vaccine that causes cancer, as we know cancer has always been in existence.

It is just that the lockdowns and restrictions reduced early diagnosis and delayed treatments - both of which reduced cancer survival rates.

But even when you get easy access to GPs, they make diagnostic mistakes.

My OH had no problem getting GP appointments back in 2015/6/7 for various strange health issues after decades of never seeing a GP at all. He was constantly fobbed off. It was only when he saw a random locum GP in 2018 that she arranged for a rare blood test, which came up showing a very rare form of cancer! All the usual GPs had missed it and dismissed his various ailments, but when you research the symptoms and side effects of his cancer, it was text-book obvious what it was.

I've no doubt that lack of access to GPs has caused missed and late diagnosis, but it was happening anyway before covid and before GPs were working from home etc. I'm sure it's worse now, but it's not all because of covid. Covid has just increased the problem of late diagnosis.

OP your husband is suffering from confirmation bias. Unfortunately what he’s chosen to fixate on is ambiguous enough that you can’t prove him wrong as much as he can’t prove he’s right. It’s how cults and grifts work. They only have to convince you then you’ll do the work for them.

leaves me wondering what on earth was causing heart problems and cancer before mRNA vaccines but there we go. We mustn’t bring up the obvious flaws in their logic, or rather shouldn’t waste our breath.

@taxguru

"But cancer certainly isn't! People got cancer before covid so I don't understand the logic (there is none) of the OP's hubbie thinking the vaccine caused cancer!"

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The vaccine certainly did not cause cancer. However the lockdowns and difficulty of getting doctors appointments meant that there were many cases of cancer that were not picked up in early stages reducing chances of survival and many diagnosed cancer patients that had their treatments delayed or postponed also reducing their chances of survival.

I think everyone needs a healthy dose of cynicism...to stop blindly believing politicians and 'experts' and take an objective view. Cant believe people continue to blindly follow politicians and people with a vested interest in the narratives of Covid...'climate change' and the idea that an ageing population somehow means we don't have our own younger generation worth investing in and have to import more people...🙄

I think that was Charlotte989 who said that as it relates to what Mrspatmoresspoon quoted, but there's so many holes in the thread now it's hard to tell.

This is why debate with CTs is entirely pointless.

As a pp has already written, conspiracy theorists often want someone/something to blame. They can’t accept that some things just happen.

I was diagnosed with cancer two years ago and yes, I have been vaccinated. Nobody in my family has ever had this cancer before. I don’t fit the typical profile of someone with this type of cancer. I asked my oncologist why I had developed it? Had I done something that could have caused it? His answer. Bad luck. That’s all it is, really bad luck. Some people just can’t accept that answer.

I know someone like this, couldn't have a conversation without it being brought up by her in the end I just told her straight.. I know someone who died from covid and I find this conversation really disrespectful, think what you want but please don't bring it up around me.
Would that work with your husband?

Thing is that a lot of today's problems ARE caused by the lockdowns, etc., such as staff shortages, price rises, materials shortages, shops closing, etc.

But cancer certainly isn't! People got cancer before covid so I don't understand the logic (there is none) of the OP's hubbie thinking the vaccine caused cancer!

Yep. That’s very much what I think. I couldn’t be married to someone that unable to think rationally.

I’m not blindly following anything, but I want proof and evidence before believing something.

’Dr John’ isn’t a medical doctor, has repeatedly misinterpreted scientific data, and makes money spreading misinformation.

There IS data linking Covid-19 infection with accelerated cancers. You know, actual studies.

How on earth is only one retired A&E nurse privy to this secret explosive information?

Anti vaxxers have been saying vaccines cause cancers since my DD was little and when I first looked into it - way before Covid so that’s nothing new. I was given all these pamphlets to read by friends who were card carrying members of an anti vaxxer support group when I was pregnant and I remember those claims.

And I remember when the Covid vaccines first came out, some people said we would all be dead in two years! And yet, we are still here.

See I wouldn't lock down. I worked out and about 7 days a week during covid delivering food etc. To all the people at home. And never yet had covid. As for jabs I had the first 2 to be allowed to travel.

However I do not really care if people locked down/ broke rules/ had jabs. As for jabs causing stuff ithink it's too early to know either way.