Single one component measle vaccine

wombat15

That is not the point. People who sneer instead of putting forward arguments are not helping any cause.

If anything is not going to make people less fearful it will be posts claiming to know people who have been severely vaccine injured. I doubt that anyone would decide not to vaccinate their child because they think a complete stranger, who does not claim to be a scientist or health care professional was "sneering and rude" to them on the internet but if they do they are not a fit parent.

And she needs protecting by herd immunity created by others being vaccinated,
As i said above my dc had genetic febrile convulsions which last longer and go on until puberty. My family have far more than the norm, i think ds had over 20 .
Vaccines cause febrile convulsions but so do the diseases we vaccinate against.
Weighing up the risks i would rather know when he had the vaccine and could keep an eye on him for a couple of days rather than him suddenly coming down something like measles when he was out and about and by himself, as it was he had a febrile convulsion at 13 caused by pneumonia, really scared the school staff!

Yes I don't disagree. That's why my children had the first MMR. Dd reaction to it was why she's not allowed the 2nd.

and its a recognised condition from the natural disease with more risks!

ITP can be fatal. Its a standalone condition that has devastated my family

Its a recognised rare side effect of the MMR but its certainly not limited to that. Hepatitis, HPV and of course Covid.

This is why people push back. Read the room.

You think parents who have fears that come to the internet for answers and find lots of sneering and rude replies basically saying that they are ignorant idiots (not you who said this but I've seen this and worse) will be influenced to vaccinate? People get more entrenched in their thinking when they get shut down immediately. I want people to be vaccinated but being sneered at isn't helping is it? Have you found that it's changed anyone's mind?

People need education and kindness not rudeness.

Also, does the MMR even protect against whooping cough?

The only reason I ever wondered about single vaccines is as an adult. I had measles as a child, so presumably would be immune, I had the Rubella vax at age 11, and as I mentioned earlier, everyone eho had pteviously had Rubella got a mild rash. I also had whooping cough, but to my knowledge I have never had mumps.
I have seen adverts fir MMRs for adults and just wondered what the deal was. I imagine that most people in their late 40s-50s must be in the same situation.

There is also the point the risk from the natural disease for ITP is much higher and not as mild.

I'm not sure that you are understanding the concept that just because one vaccine causes a particular side effect it doesn't mean that another one will and certainly not to the same extent.. Regarding ITP, with MMR this link state it is usually transient self-limiting form of the disease with moderately low platelet counts and milder symptoms. Generally, no treatment is needed.

https://itpsupport.org.uk/mmr-and-itp/

I'm not. I haven't invented this condition - it's literally called vaccine induced thrombocytopenia.

I'm not sure you're understanding the concept.

So you think people don't get their children vaccinated against life threatening diseases because they perceive strangers on an Internet forum to be sneering and rude? Don't be ridiculous.

Why do you lump all vaccines together though?. You wouldn't say that because one drug caused a particular side effect another drug will cause the same side effect. I'm sure you don't expect all diseases to be the same either.

Why are you trusting a profit making company over the NHS? How can any loving parent not want their child protected

I've talked about both as its vaccine induced.

Itp can also be caused by other prescription drugs and things like food poisoning. It can run in families. It can be very sudden onset and be fatal.

I'm just stating facts. That doesn't make me an anti vaxxer. It's only right that people, particularly those with auto immune diseases in their family, are aware. Consent must be informed. It's a balance.

I don't care that you don't believe it, it happened. You asked what happened and I told you.

I didn't realise you couldn't get single versions of it and I said to the OP at the beginning of the thread that all of my friends and family have never had adverse reactions to the MMR.

You really need to rethink your posts as you come across as sneering and rude. I shared my experience (which is pro vax) and just because you don't want to hear it you just dismissed me. The reason rates are low and people don't vaccinate is due to people like you as people can't share their concerns and be educated why vaccines are important and life saving.

I thought you were talking about MMR vaccinations not covid vaccinations. They are not the same thing.

The link above gives a 2.5 in 100,000 risk for ITP from MMR which is mild to moderate and self limiting. The risk of ITP from the diseases is 1 in 3000, so nearly .

I didn't say that "asking for compassion and empathy" is typical of anti vax sites. Specific words you use are though.

I don't believe you know a "had a meningitis vaccine and had a heart attack and organ shut down less than 24 hours later" either. Single measles vaccines aren't even available in the UK.

You can easily Google it.

Thrombocytopenia is well recognised as a thankfully rare but real risk. Indeed Government guidance changed for the Covid vaccinations due to the acknowledgement of bleeding/clotting issues. Particularly in relation to AZ. You must know this it was all over the news.

I've repeatedly said I'm pro vaccination. I've even had several additional ones outside of standard vaccination schedule. However it serves no purpose to brush things under the carpet.

So, asking for compassion and empathy are typical of anti Vax sites? I'm not saying we should not be educating people just doing so with less aggression and name calling. We all know that this doesn't work because rates are low so why keep doing it?

A healthy 16 year old had a meningitis vaccine and had a heart attack and organ shut down less than 24 hours later - they are severely disabled now but alive. I have no idea how common it is to be honest, not very i would imagine. I don't believe it is fear mongering to say that this happened as I chose to vaccinate my children despite this. The miniscule risk of this happening is far outweighed by the benefit of having the vaccine as I also know someone who lost a child to meningitis.

There is nothing on the information leaflets to confirm what you say you were told in hospital.

Strange that you never spend time on ant vaxxer websites as your language is quite typical. I think it would be helpful to know the injury and how common it is.

I think the well publicised deaths caused by the Covid vaccine are central to the dropping vaccine rates tbh.

There is also, rightly or wrongly, a wide variation in what people perceive as vaccine damage. We didn't put a claim in despite being encouraged to. However dd absolutely suffered harm due to a vaccination. So yes it can be argued that compensation is rare but flags/adverse incident reporting aren't. There was 10,000 alone for the Covid jabs and that figure doesn't even include Astra Zeneca.

The extreme anti vaxxers are given a springboard due to the refusal of some to even discuss the issue as then it smacks of a cover up and starts to give credence to the conspiracy theories.