Stop saying 'myself and...'

Nearly every thread had a post with 'myself' instead of 'me'.
It seems to be catching.....

’There is’ with a plural rouses my pedant-ire every time.

It must be nice not to care about such things, or not to notice them.

Yes!!!

Poor letter R. (Pronounced Oar not Arr 😜)

The dropping of t is not seen as proper - whereas the dropping of r is. One is considered posh and correct - the other is not. Who made the rules? It wasn’t the working classes, was it?

Probably the reason 'my husband and I' sounds overly formal is because it's how the late queen would often start speeches and one that people would ham up when impersonating her.

But I don't believe it sounds weird as suggested below. Not sure how else I would start a sentence when talking to people who don't know dh?

Why do people say these things? I’m a teacher and I’ve taught in some pretty deprived places. My dad grew up in a mining village in the 20s and 30s when all their food had to be packed into a metal box at night to keep the cockroaches away. Who do you think taught me the correct grammar? I used to get him to check my degree essays for grammar because his was better than mine, despite him having left school at 14.
This view that working class people have to be ignorant is very classist.

Edit: if your ‘obvious solution’ is for everyone to ignore perfectly simple grammar rules, then no thanks.

Sorry, but it sounds like you have quite a limited perspective of life in the UK. I’m from a working class background and now almost always in middle class settings - but I would still sound like a total 🛎️ 🔚 if I said “my husband and I” in most verbal social situations that I face. As I said in a previous post, there are obvious solutions though.

No, I disagree. I have the type of accent where a glottal stop might be expected, and I don't use it.

I think speech can be split into two parts: your accent, which is basically the shape of your vowels; and what you might call your 'precision' when it comes to glottal stops, dropping h's at the beginning of words and g's at the end etc.

It's perfectly possible to have a Yorkshire or Scouse or Essex accent and still speak formally or even just choose to sound all your letters properly in everyday speech, as I try to.
If anything it's quite insulting and patronising to the working class to suggest we can't possibly speak properly just because of where we're from.

Im a medical secretary and doctors dictate this all the time. They say myself when it should be me. I’m not the best with grammar but it is so annoying. I think ppl think it makes them sound smarter

But it’s not posh. It’s just correct. Why do you think correct English belongs to the rich and posh?
Nothing Hyacinth about it either. She was trying to look posher than she was. Using correct grammar is not posh.

Did you ever watch Hyacinth Bucket in 'Keeping up Appearances'? She sounded posh but definitely wasn't. Anyway, a comment not worth nitpicking about so I'll leave it there.

@Springsombrero , it probably sounds a bit formal because 'We' is usually sufficient.
If you were telling someone you were nipping down to the chippy you'd probably know them quite well.

If I was talking to a friend or relative, I'd say 'We went...'
If I needed to be specific, I'd say 'Bob and I went...' or 'DC and I went...'

I completely agree, and can’t quite reconcile that with how much it irritates me when the speaker is not Irish.

I manage various teams in a professional setting. Those in Scotland, England, France and Italy I will happily correct on this for client-facing work. Those in Ireland, I wouldn’t dream of correcting.

(And I use amn’t myself as a colloquialism, but I hadn’t occurred to me that it is correct whereas “aren’t” isn’t 😅)

Or ‘we’re just off to the chippy’.
I disagree it sounds either formal or weird though. It just sounds correct.

That does sound overly formal/weird, despite being correct. Personally I wouldn’t say that but would still avoid “Me and my husband are nipping down the chippy” by e.g. “I’m going to nip down the chippy with my husband”.

You were absolutely not being unreasonable to turn that job down for that reason!

You said ‘Try saying 'my husband and I' without sounding posh.....’ in the post I replied to. What else did you mean?

@banivani , ....It's perfectly correct in Hiberno-Irish grammar to use the reflexive pronoun differently.
I work with people from various countries, and the use of what's acceptable in their own version of English is edited into British English. I'm usually the editor.

I'm often told by the writers that I their English is fine and doesn't need correcting. Unfortunately, it does. The target audience will be an international one.

🤣🤣🤣

I think people say it because they don’t know whether to use ‘I’ or ‘me’.

It gets on my nerves too.

I have asked for my post to be withdrawn because it did not quote the post I intended.

The glottal stop I believe is typical for certain London accents and is actually spreading now, including to American accents that haven’t previously had it. Check out Dr Geoff Lindsay on Youtube.

I was talking to my husband about this last night.

We wondered whether people used to read more books and so would be familiar with the proper use.

Now people use social media more often and are more likely to see it used incorrectly pick it up thinking they are using it properly.

Doesn't the glottal stop just sound a bit daft? I can't imagine a high powered lawyer speaking that way?