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What does FWB mean to you?

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Curiousto · 14/02/2024 20:07

There has been a few threads across all the boards recently where people in FWB arrangements have been told they aren't FWB by other MN users. One poster said they were exclusive FWB, and was told by another poster they weren't FWB, but were in a relationship.

On this night of lurve, what does FWB mean to you?

I've read with interest as for me, my FWB and I message every day, several times a day. We see each other about once a fortnight for the weekend. I've stayed at his for 6 days in a row. We go to the cinema, to restaurants, on walks, bike rides, to pubs, day trips out to local cities. Been on 2 UK 4 day breaks together. We've got events planned in the diary up to August. We've met each others friends and family.

We talk about the stresses of life and have supported each other through some tough situations. We mostly message, rarely call. It's been this way for 18 months.

I've slept with 3 others and been on a few dates in that 18 months. He doesn't know about them. He may have slept with others. I don't know. Not my business.

It works for us.

If you're in/have had FWB, what works for you?

If you've never experienced FWB, what are your thoughts?

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Curiousto · 15/02/2024 08:50

Noideawwhatsoccuring · 15/02/2024 01:25

But thats not answering the question.

It appears he is giving the impression to his family that you are his girlfriend.

And you giving the impression that he is your boyfriend.

I'm not sure how else you want me to answer it 🤷 Is this better?

"Drop it off in the back room. You've not met my friend Curiousto, have you?..."

I don't know how the conversation went about me going to the birthday meal. I wasn't there.

My family "you would have to choose this weekend, wouldn't you? FWB is visiting." "Bring him along sis. You've been fucking him long enough so he can't be that bad. That way I still see you and you still get some"

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Onthebusallday · 15/02/2024 08:49

To me FWB would be someone in a friendship group that I had sex with occasionally.

Anything more , then it's a relationship isn't it?

I'd love to hear what your FWB thinks it is. Sounds more committed and intense that most people's genuine relationships to me.

I think a majority of people would describe yours as an open relationship from your side. You can call it FWB obviously, they are minefields that inevitably end sadly because they mean different things to those that are in them.

Geneticsbunny · 15/02/2024 08:36

Would he feel as happy for you if you were to meet someone else and withdraw the fwb relationship?

wandawaves · 15/02/2024 07:02

Just out of curiosity OP... why do you not consider it a relationship, and, why don't you guys become an 'official' relationship? What's stopping you?

Duckbuddy · 15/02/2024 06:57

Agree with others that the spectrum goes fuck buddy ... FWB...casual dating ... non committed relationship ... exclusive relationship.

I'm in an open marriage and we recently "recategorised" ourselves to poly because we were happier with ourselves and our other partners being further up that line. At the start I was only really comfortable with DH seeing fuck buddies, or some limited elements of FWB. He was freaked out by my offering emotional support to people and we had to work out how we felt on a load of things; like was it OK for him to attend an event with someone, was it OK for me to help someone move house, could I meet someone's child even as a friend... it's not the sex, but the level of reliance on the other person I think that changes the tone.

You sound like you rely on one another quite a bit OP.

(edited for typo)

ColdButSunny · 15/02/2024 06:55

OP, you've answered how you'd feel if he got together with someone else.

How would you feel if he asked if you wanted to be in an exclusive relationship with him? Would you consider it?

user1471434829 · 15/02/2024 06:45

I have a FWB, we are genuinely friends and when we are both single we also sleep together. We both go on dates and openly chat about it to the other person. Neither of us want to be in a relationship with the other one, but its nice to do couply stuff with someone when you're single. We sometimes go out for meals cinema etc and sometimes he just comes over late or picks me up if I'm out as he doesn't drink.

When either of us are in a relationship we still chat a bit on message and might meet up for a daytime activity. But we don't see each other or speak as much. We've been like this on/off for 20 years and it works for us!

I think your FWB probably thinks your in a relationship... I think it's important to be honest and make sure you're not hurting people.

For me a fuck buddy is someone who you only see for sex and if sex is off the cards you wouldn't bother. So no meals out, chatty texts etc

aurynne · 15/02/2024 05:59

For me, a friendfship WB is exactly that: you're friends and do friends things, like going hiking, or to the movies, or go out with other friends; you have sex when you feel like to; but you are not in love with that person. There is no romance. If your FWB starts dating another woman, you may feel a bit bothered that you have lost part of his time as a friend (as it happens when any other friend gets coupled up) and the sex you were sharing, but you're not "jealous", you wouldn't be with him romantically anyway.

Passingthethyme · 15/02/2024 05:32

SkankingWombat · 15/02/2024 04:29

To me, FWB is all the fun and sex, with none of the expectations, commitment or emotional entanglement of being a couple.

I'd also describe yours as an open relationship OP. You have the fun, sex, expectations and emotional entanglement sides, but none of the commitment.

I agree with this if both parties feel the same way and are genuinely happy with the situation (although I do think usually one person wants more), otherwise it's basically one person waiting until something better comes along. But then writing this, it makes me think we probably should do this for much longer rather than rushing into being in a relationship as most of us do (mostly women) and we'd all probably be in much better relationships

CurlewKate · 15/02/2024 05:10

What does FWB mean to me? A disaster waiting to happen. A man living his best life.

SkankingWombat · 15/02/2024 04:29

To me, FWB is all the fun and sex, with none of the expectations, commitment or emotional entanglement of being a couple.

I'd also describe yours as an open relationship OP. You have the fun, sex, expectations and emotional entanglement sides, but none of the commitment.

Tatonka · 15/02/2024 03:32

I also would assume it would mostly be sex, not going to dinner etc otherwise I feel if you're exclusive it's bordering on a relationship but you don't actually like each other enough to commit?

Tatonka · 15/02/2024 03:31

Friends with benefits, someone you have sex with but no commitment to. I'd generally say you weren't exclusive, but some may choose to be exclusive.

Jumpingthruhoops · 15/02/2024 02:27

Curiousto · 14/02/2024 21:33

I do find it interesting that I'm being told by a few of you that my FWB isn't a FWB.

He is.

And that was part of the reason I posted. I find it weird that a stranger feels they're in a better position to label something than the person living the situation.

He and his best mate speak on the phone daily. If best mate calls when I'm there, he'll have a brief chat rather than their normal 20+ minutes as he'll tell him I'm there. We're both sociable people who like engaging with friends. That doesn't make it a relationship, open or otherwise.

I asked what FWB meant to you, not for opinions on mine. I know MN too well that if I didn't put my opinion on the OP, I'd be accused of being a journalist or a bored teen on school holidays 🤣

If you didn't want an opinion on your relationship status, why did you describe it in such great detail in your OP!?
YOU might call your situation FWBs but WE call the situation you've described an open/non-exclusive relationship.
Sounds like the two of you have a much deeper connection than just the sex/lust of being FWBs.

PinkArt · 15/02/2024 02:26

I also always categorise FWB and fuckbuddies as different names for the same thing too. Take the coy out of 'benefits' and it's basically 'buddies with fucking'!
OP your set up does sound much more like an open relationship than a FWB to me, but if it works for you both and you both know where you stand then just crack on.

Jumpingthruhoops · 15/02/2024 02:13

What you describe OP is a relationship - albeit a vaguely open one.

A FWB is just that: a friend that you have sex with from time to time.

PeloMom · 15/02/2024 01:34

Yours sounds like a ( not very good/ open ) relationship not FWB; to me I wouldn’t be in touch w a FWB several times a day, go away w them on trips or make plans all the way till summer. Also, from my perspective, it’s supposed to be a bit more lighthearted than supporting each other through difficult life events.

Noideawwhatsoccuring · 15/02/2024 01:25

Curiousto · 14/02/2024 21:20

How is your FWB introducing you to family?

His brother dropped something off while I was at his one weekend @Noideawwhatsoccuring . Brother then invited me to join a birthday meal on another weekend I was at his. I was happy to hang out at FWB house but he felt rude leaving me when he'd invited me to stay, particularly as brother had asked for me to go as we'd really clicked. Going home isn't an option, as he lives a decent distance away.

He met my family a similar way. He was visiting the same weekend my brother was able to do one of his rare visits to my town.

But thats not answering the question.

It appears he is giving the impression to his family that you are his girlfriend.

And you giving the impression that he is your boyfriend.

kcchiefette · 14/02/2024 23:47

I have had a FWB before.

We meet if both of us happen to be single and up for it. What sets it apart from a "f buddy" situation is, we will go for a walk beforehand. Afterwards we will enjoy a nice cuddle and a chat.

However, theres no feelings there only lust. And thats only see if you're in the mood.

theduchessofspork · 14/02/2024 23:46

Yours is a low commitment relationship / open relationship to me

FWB is we meet up, have sex, have a laugh and a drink and a chat. We call each other when we’d like to have sex, not a weekend of walks on the beach.

I might go to see a film or a gallery with them but fairly rarely because that’s not what the relationship is.

AppropriateAdult · 14/02/2024 23:46

I had a FWB situation very like yours when I was in my 20s, OP - we were genuinely good friends, hung out all the time, went to the cinema, for drinks, food etc. lots of texting back and forth, and sex. And yet it was very definitely not a romantic relationship - I was always completely sure that that wouldn't work out long-term, and I never thought of him as my boyfriend.
We gradually drifted apart once I met (now) DH, and I haven't heard from him in years now. Very fond memories though.

LilBus · 14/02/2024 23:38

I don’t see fwb and fuck buddies the same at all, to me fuck buddies are people that aren’t friends but just meet up for sex no talking in between, don’t hang out together and don’t do things together, fwb friends that also have sex but also hang out together but aren’t in an exclusive relationship

cakecoffeecakecoffee · 14/02/2024 23:35

In my mind:

fuck buddy - just have sex, nothing else beyond that.

friend with benefits - enjoy a bit of time together (in my case they’ve always been part of friendship group so been at some of same nights out, parties etc) and have sex. Not exclusive, no expectations.

casual dating - go on dates and have sex. May turn into more if it goes well. Not exclusive. Might meet friends socially.

boyfriend / girlfriend / relationship etc - exclusive, intend / hope to have a future, meet friends and family.

I’ve never done casual dating…. either had a sex-based arrangement or an exclusive boyfriend.

Trulyme · 14/02/2024 23:14

FWB and fuck buddies are the same thing.

Yours does sound more like an open relationship but I think FWBs/fuck buddies do have a large spectrum.

For most, it’s just about not wanting the commitment.

That could mean that they act like they’re in a relationship and are open to others knowing that they’re seeing each other or that it’s much more of a secret and it’s just purely sex.

Obviously in your situation one of you (I assume him) doesn’t want a long term commitment but you’re both very compatible, which is why it’s about more than just sex.

Curiousto · 14/02/2024 22:15

Happy to answer @maxelly

We were first FWB just before Covid. He was very Covid safe, so we met rarely for 2 years, but daily messaged, watched films virtually and did lots of sexting.

I then had a boyfriend for a year which I told him about. We still daily messaged but didn't meet up IRL. When things ended with my boyfriend, we met up again.

If he finds someone, I'll be gutted that I'll have to replace the sex aspect as it's annoying, but I'll be truly happy for him that he's found someone. I'll be sad if he decides the contact needs to go too, as he sends me lots of things that brighten my day.

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