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To think dad should have stopped babies touching handrails on the tube and then sticking their hands in their mouth after?

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bottomsup12 · 13/02/2024 08:30

Just that really? Saw a man holding his baby walking round the tube and letting the baby grab the rails etc and then just watching the child lick their hands after??

As a lifelong tube commuter I have seen people (blokes) scratching their arses or picking their noses and then casually grabbing the handrails.... to think a baby will be licking their hands after touching it horrifies me!

Would it be reasonable to have said something to the man?

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Everyoneesleistheproblem · 16/08/2024 21:23

Z0rr0 · 13/02/2024 08:51

It is a bit gross to think about what germs might be there but babies need to be exposed to bacteria and allergens to build up their immune responses. Shielding them from everything makes them more prone to illness and disease in the long run. And the older they are generally the more extreme the body's response. Better they encounter it when they're smaller (for the most part).

This

I was listening to that Michael Mosely thing that said vaginal babies are healthier long term because they swallow their mums poo when being birthed rather than sterile C sections.
Exposure to general bacteria is what builds your immune system.

Makingchocolatecake · 16/08/2024 21:18

Wait till that baby goes to playgroup or nursery and starts mouthing all the toys all the other kids have licked too with germs and colds!

Gogogo12345 · 16/08/2024 20:21

IDontHateRainbows · 13/02/2024 08:54

My son once put his finger in a drop of wee from the previous person on the loo seat and locked it before I could stop him

He has a mighty fine immune system 10 years later.

Urine is generally sterile anyway. Mindyou the toilet seat may not have been

umarmalik · 16/08/2024 20:20

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TooBigForMyBoots · 16/08/2024 20:17

Would it be reasonable to have said something to the man?

What would you have said @bottomsup12?

Yourdemonsyourproblem · 16/08/2024 20:13

Disgusting and why I think eating on the tube is equally as disgusting

stichguru · 16/08/2024 19:41

Said what?? I mean assuming the "baby" was to young to understand hygiene, what do you want him to do? Tie her hands down??

Underestimated4 · 14/02/2024 09:19

It wouldn’t have been reasonable because it’s non of your business.

Carrying the child his main concern was probably not bumping into anyone or dropping them and safely being able to sit/stand.

WandaWonder · 13/02/2024 20:48

FrontalHeadache · 13/02/2024 20:12

MN is a gathering of the most anxious collection of human beings I have ever ‘met’. It’s mind-blowing to me.

Same, and I wonder how much these chemicals in all these products is worse that what mythical thing people think will happen in the first place

HauntedPencil · 13/02/2024 20:32

I'm glad you didn't say something because that would have been a bit bonkers tbh. I don't think you can do much about sport handles, stair rails and the like.

nighttimeforgenerals88 · 13/02/2024 20:25

I used to lick the windows of the District line. I am alive and have a great immune system.

Pacifybull · 13/02/2024 20:24

This wouldn’t bother me. I certainly wouldn’t say anything. I probably wouldn’t be concerned even if it was my own child doing it. My DC have grown up in London and are well exposed to the tube. No-one in my house has ever had a tummy bug.

Grah · 13/02/2024 20:20

And I bet when the child grows up it'll have less colds and stomach upsets than any child of a woman who disinfects everything.

Zone4flaneur · 13/02/2024 20:19

@FrontalHeadache isn't it. I am not sure they are real people.

FrontalHeadache · 13/02/2024 20:12

Zone4flaneur · 13/02/2024 19:49

Blimey. My two commuted on the tube every day as babies. They probably licked the floor sometimes. Immune systems of steel.

I don't sanitize my own hands every time I get off the tube (MN is full of people who do though).

It must be very wearing to see peril constantly.

MN is a gathering of the most anxious collection of human beings I have ever ‘met’. It’s mind-blowing to me.

Zone4flaneur · 13/02/2024 20:02

You're not going to get TB from a tube train as a poster upthread thought. TB is caught from prolonged exposure, usually in the same house.

Honestly.

Zone4flaneur · 13/02/2024 19:49

Blimey. My two commuted on the tube every day as babies. They probably licked the floor sometimes. Immune systems of steel.

I don't sanitize my own hands every time I get off the tube (MN is full of people who do though).

It must be very wearing to see peril constantly.

letmeeatinpeace · 13/02/2024 19:44

The hand rails are cleaned daily, so probably no more dirty than a soft play.

https://tfl.gov.uk/corporate/transparency/freedom-of-information/foi-request-detail?referenceId=FOI-2420-2122

SummerDays2020 · 13/02/2024 19:42

I think it was worse that he was walking around the tube with the baby (was it moving?) I've been on a tube that stopped suddenly and wouldn't have wanted to have had a baby in my arms.

Jumpingthruhoops · 13/02/2024 19:36

Eightfour · 13/02/2024 18:23

It’s better than nothing isn’t it which is what I said. I suggest hand washing as the ideal but you said that wasn’t always available so I gave some less good alternatives in a pinch. I am not going to play a game of hygiene top trumps with you. You may not like it but we are often exposed to germs and it’s not always a bad thing.

Oh, I know, all of us are routinely exposed to germs on a daily basis, which can't be avoided. It's about being mindful of cross-contamination and viral load, to try and avoid infecting ourselves with those germs that could cause unpleasant or serious illness. I don't know why people wouldn't want to do that.

ChocolateCakeOverspill · 13/02/2024 19:36

Wasn’t Covid airborne in the end?

Jumpingthruhoops · 13/02/2024 19:30

TawnyT · 13/02/2024 13:59

Genuinely interested in what OP and those who agree with OP, think is going to happen. Like what do you think you're preventing by only touching surfaces others have touched with your elbows? Are there any particular viruses or diseases you think are transferred in this manner?

And how do you do other daily tasks, like eating out where someone else has prepared your food, or using a public bathroom? Handling cash?

Do you find being out in public stressful? It just feels like a very anxiety inducing line of thought and I don't understand the logic.

Eh!? Colds, flu and D&V are all transmitted this way. Oh, and a virus called Covid!

A PP upthread explained how an entire floor of their company caught SARS from a lift button. People don't want to get ill if they can avoid it, which in many cases, you can. It really is simple logic. Not really much to 'understand'.

I avoid using public toilets where possible. No problem handling cash, just make sure I wash my hands as soon as I'm able. To be honest, I just do that routinely when I come in from being outside.

As for restaurants, I obviously apply some 'mind over matter' here, if I want any sort of social life. But I do pay close attention to hygiene ratings.

I'm 45 and I can count my brushes with those aforementioned viruses on one hand!

Eightfour · 13/02/2024 18:23

Jumpingthruhoops · 13/02/2024 18:04

Thanks for guidance - but been there, seen it, done it, got the t-shirt!

Disorders aside, it's still important for people to protect themselves. Sanitiser doesn't kill all germs and baby wipes certainly don't! So not 'better than nothing' by a long way.

Respectfully, if you think that's sufficient, it's no wonder so many bugs go around.

It’s better than nothing isn’t it which is what I said. I suggest hand washing as the ideal but you said that wasn’t always available so I gave some less good alternatives in a pinch. I am not going to play a game of hygiene top trumps with you. You may not like it but we are often exposed to germs and it’s not always a bad thing.

Sneez · 13/02/2024 18:16

Absolutely gross and I wouldn’t let my babies do it! I wouldn’t have said anything though

Jumpingthruhoops · 13/02/2024 18:12

endofthelinefinally · 13/02/2024 16:16

SARS spread through an entire floor of a building just from one button in the lift.
I am immunosuppressed and I clean my hands frequently when using public transport and I never eat without washing or cleaning my hands.
I taught my dc to do the same and, honestly, We hardly had any tummy bugs in our house.

This! You'll often hear someone say: 'I picked up a bug.' And I think: 'Yes, you literally did!'

Like you, I try and avoid contact with high-touch points when I'm out, and don't eat or touch my face if I know my hands aren't scrupulously clean.

Rarely get colds and haven't had a stomach bug since the 1990s!!