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To think how on earth can Biden be President

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Viviennemary · 09/02/2024 22:20

Just been watching the news about Biden's memory. He really needs to step down IMHO.

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anicecuppateaandayummyshortbreadbiscuit · 17/02/2024 12:31

FrannieSaid · 09/02/2024 22:58

PSA: Brits saying "y'all" makes you look like absolute TWATS.

Which is correctly pronounced as "TWAHTS", by people who say "y'all".

It's also "peCAHHN pie", not PEE-can", bless your hearts. :)

:)

There is no such thing as 'American English'. There is English and there are mistakes 😁

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/02/2024 11:17

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 17/02/2024 10:20

I’ve just watched an excerpt from yesterday’s speech. Biden does not look mentally or physically well. I wish him the best, but I think you’re closing your eyes to the obvious.

Sounds fair

I'll say again that keeping the poor guy in the running is hardly kind to him, never mind anyone else ... what the hell are his nearest and dearest doing??

RhubarbGingerJam · 17/02/2024 11:12

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 17/02/2024 10:20

I’ve just watched an excerpt from yesterday’s speech. Biden does not look mentally or physically well. I wish him the best, but I think you’re closing your eyes to the obvious.

I thought the same - and he didn't unlike other speeches make any huge gaffs.

Anyone is better than Trump - but I think voting for Biden in such obvious poor health means looking at team round him who will clearly be making decisions and thinking about possibility of Kamala Harris presidency rather than focus on Biden.

If Nikki Haley hangs in there and somehow gets the nomination over Trump I think Biden campaign will have real problems.

Brumbies · 17/02/2024 10:40

Densol57 · 09/02/2024 22:26

Trump for President ! 🎉
I am a Trump supporter

He's only 3 years younger than Biden!

I'm astonished the States only has pensioners popular enough to run for President.

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 17/02/2024 10:20

I’ve just watched an excerpt from yesterday’s speech. Biden does not look mentally or physically well. I wish him the best, but I think you’re closing your eyes to the obvious.

FrannieSaid · 16/02/2024 23:24

Heartily disagree.

There are literally MILLIONS and MILLIONS of US voters who don't fall for this narrative, and we vote. Just doesn't make the news.

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 16/02/2024 23:14

FrannieSaid · 16/02/2024 22:50

I'm back. :)

Peaced out for Mardi Gras, and clearly didn't miss anything more than continued nonsense.

Posts recommending Taylor Swift? 😂
Love her, and she'll give Biden a giant boost, but not sure about her grasp on geo-politics.

Posts STILL talking about running someone else? 😂

The election is less than a year away. You don't switch horses 3 years into a 4 year term; there's zero time for fundraising, and there's no one else even close running. Even Manchin (that paid-for WV bastard) came out today and and said he wouldn't run as an Independent.

Dems continuing to WIN on abortion and the border bullshit. Santos (ousted R) special election in NY flipped Dem.

Matt Gaetz under House Ethics investigation for trafficking minors and rape.

In addition to the E. Jean Carroll 83.3M award recently, today Trump received a civil judgement of 350M in the NY fraud case, a prohibition on practicing business in NY for 3 years (court appointed auditor in control of his $) to make sure he doesn't try to cheat more. Criminal trial for this still to come.

His criminal "hush money" (campaign funds, threats, etc., to Stormy Daniels) trial starts March 25th. 34 COUNTS of fraud attached to that one.

That still leaves GA election interference:
"I just want to find 11,780 votes," he told Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger." ON TAPE.

Storing, LYING ABOUT having, and SHARING with fucking Mar a Lago RANDOMS classified documents.

Oh, and the big one: Motherfucking SEDITION, in trying to prevent the legal transfer of power. Not only the violent attack on the Capitol, but a coordinated plan, drawn up by his lawyers, to attempt to delay certification, override the people's votes and declare martial law.

He's fucked. Biden will win.

I certainly hope Biden wins.

But the issue is really when Biden will lose his marbles. If he can get through another term then great. But it doesn’t look likely on present evidence.

FrannieSaid · 16/02/2024 22:50

I'm back. :)

Peaced out for Mardi Gras, and clearly didn't miss anything more than continued nonsense.

Posts recommending Taylor Swift? 😂
Love her, and she'll give Biden a giant boost, but not sure about her grasp on geo-politics.

Posts STILL talking about running someone else? 😂

The election is less than a year away. You don't switch horses 3 years into a 4 year term; there's zero time for fundraising, and there's no one else even close running. Even Manchin (that paid-for WV bastard) came out today and and said he wouldn't run as an Independent.

Dems continuing to WIN on abortion and the border bullshit. Santos (ousted R) special election in NY flipped Dem.

Matt Gaetz under House Ethics investigation for trafficking minors and rape.

In addition to the E. Jean Carroll 83.3M award recently, today Trump received a civil judgement of 350M in the NY fraud case, a prohibition on practicing business in NY for 3 years (court appointed auditor in control of his $) to make sure he doesn't try to cheat more. Criminal trial for this still to come.

His criminal "hush money" (campaign funds, threats, etc., to Stormy Daniels) trial starts March 25th. 34 COUNTS of fraud attached to that one.

That still leaves GA election interference:
"I just want to find 11,780 votes," he told Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger." ON TAPE.

Storing, LYING ABOUT having, and SHARING with fucking Mar a Lago RANDOMS classified documents.

Oh, and the big one: Motherfucking SEDITION, in trying to prevent the legal transfer of power. Not only the violent attack on the Capitol, but a coordinated plan, drawn up by his lawyers, to attempt to delay certification, override the people's votes and declare martial law.

He's fucked. Biden will win.

Jovacknockowitch · 12/02/2024 17:08

Friedchickenrocks · 11/02/2024 17:08

I read the US political forums and apparently a lot of pressure is being put on Joe to stand down by senior Dems including Obama. There are still rumours that if he did, Michelle would challenge Kamala for the Nomination. Also Jill to persuade him. He's stubborn though and says he has a right to stand again, which he does. It's up to Kamala now but she won't pres the button for some unknown reason. "I work with him every day and he's fine" She must know he's not though.

Michelle Obama has no desire to run - she has repeatedly stated this.

Jovacknockowitch · 12/02/2024 17:05

FrannieSaid · 09/02/2024 22:39

Y'all need better news sources, AND better critical thinking.

Yep, it seems Biden isn't untypical when it comes to confusion about where anywhere non-US is.

poetryandwine · 12/02/2024 17:02

Locutus2000 · 12/02/2024 09:52

But no matter her personal qualities and prior proximity, the presidency of the US is not a suitable entry level political job.

Donald Trump took the presidency as an entry-level political job.

Previously he was the bloke on the Apprentice.

Yes, and look what happened.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 12/02/2024 11:40

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 12/02/2024 09:50

It does seem inevitable now that Biden will have to be taken aside and told he can’t run. The Dems will be looking at terrible fallout if he goes fully incapable between now and the election, or during his term should he win.

None of this justifies a vote for Trump. But it does place his opponents in a dangerous situation which they’ve inflicted on themselves.

Sounds realistic to me - and yes, it's the issue of him getting worse between now and November which brings it to the fore, because sadly that's unlikely not to happen

Friedchickenrocks · 12/02/2024 10:20

From a US political forum.

  1. Another way the DNC could get rid of him is to simply pay him to step down. The Biden family never could resist money. And by now they know that the corruption well has run dry. I bet that's what they plan to do!
Locutus2000 · 12/02/2024 09:52

poetryandwine · 11/02/2024 20:17

I think the world of Michelle Obama. She has all the personal attributes the world needs in the American president: high intelligence, great values, personal integrity, etc. And I believe she learned a lot about the job through proximity.

If Michelle wanted to go into politics, starting with a Congressional or Senate seat or perhaps a Cabinet job, I would cheer her loudly. But no matter her personal qualities and prior proximity, the presidency of the US is not a suitable entry level political job.

But no matter her personal qualities and prior proximity, the presidency of the US is not a suitable entry level political job.

Donald Trump took the presidency as an entry-level political job.

Previously he was the bloke on the Apprentice.

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 12/02/2024 09:50

It does seem inevitable now that Biden will have to be taken aside and told he can’t run. The Dems will be looking at terrible fallout if he goes fully incapable between now and the election, or during his term should he win.

None of this justifies a vote for Trump. But it does place his opponents in a dangerous situation which they’ve inflicted on themselves.

Friedchickenrocks · 12/02/2024 09:35

Superlambaanana · 11/02/2024 20:01

@Friedchickenrocks so why not just run Kamala now? Lack of popularity. Leaving swing voters swinging away from voting for Biden and a likely Kamala presidency.

Interestingly, BBC's Americast has suggested Trump might choose one of his sons as his running mate, then stand down after a couple of years, letting chosen son in for remainder of the term before running in the 2028 election to create a Trump dynasty. 😱

Trump would most likely choose Ivanka for VP but can't as they're both registered as Florida voters. The President and VP cannot come from the same State. Anyone know where his sons are registered? Everyone assumed Trump would be registered in NY where his business are but no it's Florida.

Friedchickenrocks · 12/02/2024 09:31

Pressure is being put on the Attorney General and Kamala now by Senators to trigger article 25. Seems more US people are finally waking up to his problems.

Friedchickenrocks · 12/02/2024 09:28

Talkinpeace · 11/02/2024 19:32

FFS
forums do not take into account electoral law.

The candidate has to be in the primary to be on the state ballot (see Colorado)
so a US party cannot parachute in a randomer at a late date
(no Liz Truss or Rishi in the USA)

The Democrats have burned their boats
as have the GOP
but at least NATO HQ are kicking off

So what if Joe stood up and announced he was withdrawing at the Convention? They'd have to choose someone else....

fluffycatkins · 11/02/2024 20:58

poetryandwine · 11/02/2024 20:17

I think the world of Michelle Obama. She has all the personal attributes the world needs in the American president: high intelligence, great values, personal integrity, etc. And I believe she learned a lot about the job through proximity.

If Michelle wanted to go into politics, starting with a Congressional or Senate seat or perhaps a Cabinet job, I would cheer her loudly. But no matter her personal qualities and prior proximity, the presidency of the US is not a suitable entry level political job.

I agree with this and would add that to date she has shown less than no interest.

HRTQueen · 11/02/2024 20:54

Superlambaanana · 11/02/2024 20:01

@Friedchickenrocks so why not just run Kamala now? Lack of popularity. Leaving swing voters swinging away from voting for Biden and a likely Kamala presidency.

Interestingly, BBC's Americast has suggested Trump might choose one of his sons as his running mate, then stand down after a couple of years, letting chosen son in for remainder of the term before running in the 2028 election to create a Trump dynasty. 😱

I also thought Trump was getting his daughter Ivanka ready to be the first women president

as much as I admire Michelle Obama it’s far too late and the Obamas are far more loved abroad than they are in the US (as Blair, Thatcher and Johnson are admired in the US far more than here)

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 11/02/2024 20:28

Biden is clearly past his best and not up to being President now. But he’s a million times better than Trump.

Trump is a bought and compromised russian asset. He should be in prison and not in the White House.

I really hope both parties can find someone better to put up for President.

You can see that the EU is trying to prepare itself for life with an unreliable, nut job USA. But we’d be much better off inside that club.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 11/02/2024 20:26

FrannieSaid · 09/02/2024 23:08

Please cite some actual reporting about your erroneous take on Kamala Harris.

I don’t think she’s a dud, she’s just not very popular

poetryandwine · 11/02/2024 20:21

Except if your previous qualifications included organising the Allied victory in Europe, I guess that sufficed. But then that was a highly political job in its own way.

poetryandwine · 11/02/2024 20:17

I think the world of Michelle Obama. She has all the personal attributes the world needs in the American president: high intelligence, great values, personal integrity, etc. And I believe she learned a lot about the job through proximity.

If Michelle wanted to go into politics, starting with a Congressional or Senate seat or perhaps a Cabinet job, I would cheer her loudly. But no matter her personal qualities and prior proximity, the presidency of the US is not a suitable entry level political job.

Superlambaanana · 11/02/2024 20:01

@Friedchickenrocks so why not just run Kamala now? Lack of popularity. Leaving swing voters swinging away from voting for Biden and a likely Kamala presidency.

Interestingly, BBC's Americast has suggested Trump might choose one of his sons as his running mate, then stand down after a couple of years, letting chosen son in for remainder of the term before running in the 2028 election to create a Trump dynasty. 😱

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