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To think how on earth can Biden be President

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Viviennemary · 09/02/2024 22:20

Just been watching the news about Biden's memory. He really needs to step down IMHO.

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EasterIssland · 21/07/2024 19:43

Biden ends election campaign, says it's been 'greatest honour' to serve as US president

Puzzledandpissedoff · 12/07/2024 16:49

I'm away at the moment, but have just seen Biden's claim that he "doesn't need to undergo a neurological/cognitive assessment", which at least explains why there was no mention of one in the medical bulletin released in February

Understandable, really, that he'd have refused such a test, but surely this omission tells its own story?

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 12/07/2024 15:17

ToWhitToWhoo · 12/07/2024 15:06

There are such mechanisms provided in the 25th Amendment to the Constitution:

Twenty-fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia

This may only apply in quite extreme cases, however. And after all, no one got Reagan to step down, although he made frequent verbal gaffes (e.g. 'America has a lot to offer the Third World War') and was probably in the early stages of dementia in his second term.

If both candidates make it to November, without either having to retire due to medical incapacity (Biden) or being unavailable due to being in a prison cell (Trump), then the American voters might do well to remember the old fable about the frogs who were given the choice between King Log and King Stork, and chose the wrong one.

The - perfectly reasonable - questions about Reagan’s mental state in his second term were nothing like the blindingly obvious dangers of Biden’s senility.

If the 25th can’t apply to Biden it has no purpose whatever.

ToWhitToWhoo · 12/07/2024 15:06

MrsSkylerWhite · 12/07/2024 12:04

EasterIssland · Today 11:48
He’s also referred wrongly to Harris as vice president trump

It’s god-awful, isn’t it? If I understand it correctly, there’s no mechanism for forcing a President to step down. How on earth did the US end up leaving itself so exposed to this eventuality?

There are such mechanisms provided in the 25th Amendment to the Constitution:

Twenty-fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia

This may only apply in quite extreme cases, however. And after all, no one got Reagan to step down, although he made frequent verbal gaffes (e.g. 'America has a lot to offer the Third World War') and was probably in the early stages of dementia in his second term.

If both candidates make it to November, without either having to retire due to medical incapacity (Biden) or being unavailable due to being in a prison cell (Trump), then the American voters might do well to remember the old fable about the frogs who were given the choice between King Log and King Stork, and chose the wrong one.

Twenty-fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

MrsSkylerWhite · 12/07/2024 12:04

EasterIssland · Today 11:48
He’s also referred wrongly to Harris as vice president trump

It’s god-awful, isn’t it? If I understand it correctly, there’s no mechanism for forcing a President to step down. How on earth did the US end up leaving itself so exposed to this eventuality?

EasterIssland · 12/07/2024 11:48

He’s also referred wrongly to Harris as vice president trump

x.com/JoshuaPHilll/status/1811546531369222511

maudelovesharold · 12/07/2024 09:43

I don’t care how crap we think our (uk) political leaders are, I just think they, all of them, whatever party they’re from, have a world view, an understanding of the complexities of politics on the world stage, which means they would never make the kind of mistakes which Biden is making. It’s almost as if he has only the vaguest understanding of who is who and how they relate to each other. I would say that Trump, although slightly sharper, doesn’t have a complete handle on world politics and has made quite a few of his own gaffes. I always had confidence that Obama knew what he was talking about.

ll09sm · 12/07/2024 00:29

Why is this news all of a a sudden? The guy was making these gaffes throughout 2020 election campaign.

Dummies have been insisting how great a POTUS he is throughout when a one eyed newt could see that he’s no president, just an elderly man wheeled out every then to pretend to be president.

Why is this the only show in town now?

WeightofExpectation · 12/07/2024 00:04

We obviously don’t know what goes on behind closed doors but I’m surprised his wife hasn’t had a word, like Dennis to Margaret Thatcher. He’s been a great public servant for decades, but there’s a time to step away and that time is now.

UnashamedSlattern · 11/07/2024 23:33

Unbelievable! That was no mispronunciation, he called him the name of the man he’s fighting a war with and who’s killed thousands of Ukrainians!

We all make mistakes but you’d expect the biggest world leader on a world stage not to make that one.

How totally discombobulating that the Democrats haven’t been able to find anyone else to represent them, who can at least talk coherently and get people’s names right, out of the hundreds of millions of other Americans there are.

EasternStandard · 11/07/2024 23:26

Blimey

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 11/07/2024 23:22

EasterIssland · 11/07/2024 23:12

Seems like he has mispronounced today Zelenskyy and called him putin

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c2v0nzx16gzt?post=asset%3A4b15007b-aa6e-461a-8f31-5f8d2de5a160#post

Edited

Oh my fucking stars!

This has to stop. 🤦‍♀️

HRTQueen · 11/07/2024 23:14

I have just watched the press conference President Biden introducing President Zelensky as President Putin

its awful to watch you can see world leaders standing on the stage looking extremely uncomfortable

this is a man that is seriously deteriorating in front of us all and all eyes are in him and it’s cruel to keep supporting him to do this he can still (just about) step down with in a manner that can be respected he does deserve to

EasterIssland · 11/07/2024 23:12

Itwasmeinthebox · 11/07/2024 22:14

Biden mispronounced Starmer yesterday, it's excruciating to watch

Seems like he has mispronounced today Zelenskyy and called him putin

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c2v0nzx16gzt?post=asset%3A4b15007b-aa6e-461a-8f31-5f8d2de5a160#post

Itwasmeinthebox · 11/07/2024 22:14

Biden mispronounced Starmer yesterday, it's excruciating to watch

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 11/07/2024 21:53

I’ve just caught some of the coverage of Starmer at the White House. Biden looks very seriously mentally unsound. He comes across as a doddery and confused great great grandad holding it together for a gathering on his birthday but not really knowing where he is.

Sad for him. Terrifying for the world.

cathyandclaire · 11/07/2024 21:51

What are the White House staff thinking calling it a 'big boy' press conference tonight?! That is demeaning - it feels like they're either medicating him and hoping this conference rescues him - or they're sending him to the slaughter.

Harvestfestivalknickers · 11/07/2024 20:28

I think most people reduce their hours and take on less arduous work once they retire. I feel angry that his wife and family don't seem to be advising him to stop working and enjoy his retirement. His every move is scrutinised now, I wish he would just step down. He's stiff, stands awkward and just looks too old, i feel he's under pressure to be mentally alert and showing hes up to the job. If he was up against someone the age of Trudeau or Macron, it would be no contest. It's a shame he's against Trump who's no spring chicken himself. Biden is too old now, goodness knows what he'll be like in 4 years time. I just wish his family would advise him to stop now.

WeightofExpectation · 10/07/2024 22:31

EasterIssland · 10/07/2024 22:27

Imo he’s old to run for a president. So does trump. No person should be working at that age. They should be enjoying retirement. Normalising that the president can be that age and make decisions puts pressures on the rest of us to continue working til shit years. I’m 39. I want to retire tomorrow and enjoy life without working 😂

Fair enough but each to their own, I love my job and can’t imagine giving it up completely, unless I’m not physically or mentally able to do it to a decent standard.

EasterIssland · 10/07/2024 22:27

WeightofExpectation · 10/07/2024 22:22

I wish people would stop saying he’s too old. It’s not his age in and of itself, it’s the fact that there are clearly signs that he has declined cognitively and just can’t cope with the demands of being President. If he was an energetic 81 year old, even to the extent he was 4 years ago, his age, in my view, wouldn’t be an issue. He clearly isn’t that.

That said, he’d have my vote over Trump.

Imo he’s old to run for a president. So does trump. No person should be working at that age. They should be enjoying retirement. Normalising that the president can be that age and make decisions puts pressures on the rest of us to continue working til shit years. I’m 39. I want to retire tomorrow and enjoy life without working 😂

WeightofExpectation · 10/07/2024 22:22

I wish people would stop saying he’s too old. It’s not his age in and of itself, it’s the fact that there are clearly signs that he has declined cognitively and just can’t cope with the demands of being President. If he was an energetic 81 year old, even to the extent he was 4 years ago, his age, in my view, wouldn’t be an issue. He clearly isn’t that.

That said, he’d have my vote over Trump.

MrsSkylerWhite · 10/07/2024 22:18

That’s a big shot across the bows from George.

🤞

NoImNotCurvyImFat · 10/07/2024 22:16

Of course he shouldn’t be running he can’t recover from the other weeks debate it’s too late. We know he can give a good speech when he has an autocue but even then it’s hit and miss

and he has months of gruelling campaigning we are just going to see more and more mishaps what I can not understand is why his family are not being honest with him