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For reacting to people who treat me poorly..assaulted at the doctors surgery

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Namechangey23 · 09/02/2024 11:49

I suspect the answer is yes IABU and normal people don't do this! Please help me understand why I am like this and what I can do to fix it.

This is a typical example of a situation I have got myself into by reacting and allowing myself to be provoked. I was taking my DS (1 yr) for vaccinations and parked neatly in one of many available spaces at my local surgery. Just as I was trying to get him out of his car seat with the door open, I see out of the corner of my eye this guy in his 70s or beyond starts reversing into the space I am standing in with the door open. Note that there are various other spaces even side by side which he could have gone into but no, he chose the one I was standing in with DS half out of his car seat. I waved and shouted and he stopped....then he carried on again so I screamed and shouted at him preparing to smack the back end of his car as I thought he somehow still hasn't seen me and there wasn't room for me to stand out the way. Finally he then moves off, parks opposite and walks off inside without a word.

This is where I then made a poor decision. I had to stand next to him whilst logging into their system. I was so angry and shocked at what just happened that I decided he wasn't going to get away with it, so I said to him.. you do realise you just almost ran us over...I was expecting he might apologise. This then started off an argument in front of the whole waiting room. I asked him why he chose to park in the only space I was standing in when there were 6 other spaces available and he just said 'it was a space wasn't it' and he said 'you shouldn't have such a big car" I said I can have what car I like (honestly it's not big just a very basic standard budget SUV, not some enormous tank!) And I was parked responsibly in the space, it is customary to need the door open when getting a child out and unfortunately they don't have child spaces with more room and I didn't want to park in the disabled spacs as that's not for me! I'm afraid he pissed me off even more with his comment about my car so I said something I wasn't proud of along the lines of "should have gone to Specsavers because I'm not sure how you didn't see me? " Anyway of course it escalated, the receptionist tried to intervene to calm us down, and then he pushed all three of us, her most as she was inbetween him and me still holding DS. I feel totally devastated because she ended up bearing the brunt of what was obviously meant for me. Also mortified this was in front of everybody, although they were very kind. But also because I should have left it well alone as I had my son in my arms, why oh why didn't I keep my mouth firmly shut?! A miss (even a near miss!) Is as good as a mile as they say. What is wrong with me, why do I put myself and others at risk just to be right? It's like the sense of injustice takes over and fight wins over flight even when it makes common sense not to poke the hornets nest.

It's happened before. I asked someone outside my house which fronts onto a footpath to pick up their dog mess and got verbally abused and I think there are other incidents I can't remember now. Incidently I always end up a shaking blubbing emotional wreck after such incidents so why do I do it??! In my head I think I'm sticking up for myself. But it usually ends up worse for me and I feel like in taking these risks, one day I could end up with myself in serious trouble or dead doing it. How can I stop myself in future when it's almost reflexive! I know I need to control myself. Incidently my husband is the complete opposite extreme and a pacifist. He avoids conflict like the plague and never gets himself in any situations like this as a result. If there is a problem with a bill or contractor I have to deal with it. Is there a middle ground?!
Incidently my DS got his vaccines (all 4!) but it wasn't at all the calm experience I was hoping for...

OP posts:
NotSoBigCrocodile · 09/02/2024 18:30

Ohlookwhoitis · 09/02/2024 18:25

No she didn't approach him with the Specsavers comment. Have you not even read the opening OP?

so I said to him.. you do realise you just almost ran us over...I was expecting he might apologise. This then started off an argument in front of the whole waiting room

Didnt mean to quote you

Cerealkiller4U · 09/02/2024 18:30

NotSoBigCrocodile · 09/02/2024 18:13

So you aggressively banging on your window and telling someone to “fuck off” is perfectly acceptable, but them calling you a “fucking cunt” in response is problematic.

You actually couldn’t make it up.

Holy crap!

opps!!! Tagged the wrong poster. Sorry ♥️

Snuggleyou · 09/02/2024 18:29

Catshaveiteasy · 09/02/2024 18:27

So it's fine to be passive aggressive, just not directly aggressive?

Whoops didn't quote the right post, only the previous response to it.

Why can't we have a choice to delete our posts?

Edited

Grow up I wasn’t responding to you sounds like you have anger issues of your own.

Minfilia · 09/02/2024 18:28

I think it’s pretty common OP for that kind of defensiveness to ramp up after having a child. Call it protective instinct or whatever, but the world can suddenly feel quite different.

Picking your battles is good advice. I just mutter “dickhead” under my breath and move on now.

Maybe you feel like you have more control by biting back, but you’d have even more control of the situation if you chose to ignore and de escalate it instead.

Some people behave like idiots. You rising to it isn’t going to change that, it’s just going to stress you out more!

ForTonightGodisaDJ · 09/02/2024 18:28

He sounds like a nasty piece of work anyway OP. Don't give it another thought.

Catshaveiteasy · 09/02/2024 18:27

Snuggleyou · 09/02/2024 17:53

🙄

So it's fine to be passive aggressive, just not directly aggressive?

Whoops didn't quote the right post, only the previous response to it.

Why can't we have a choice to delete our posts?

ForTonightGodisaDJ · 09/02/2024 18:27

I mean I'm with you. And after the day I've had I would have probably twatted him myself! 😂So well done you for holding back.

Ohlookwhoitis · 09/02/2024 18:25

Vivi0 · 09/02/2024 18:08

On what planet was the OP “standing up for herself”.

She approached an elderly man standing in the waiting room of a GP practice in a confrontational manner and told him he “should have gone to specsavers”.

If the man had initiated the confrontation with the OP in the waiting room, she absolutely would have been “standing up for herself” but she was 100% the aggressor in this situation. She said herself that she approached him. She had absolutely no reason to do that.

No she didn't approach him with the Specsavers comment. Have you not even read the opening OP?

so I said to him.. you do realise you just almost ran us over...I was expecting he might apologise. This then started off an argument in front of the whole waiting room

icelolly12 · 09/02/2024 18:22

GP car parks are a nightmare for parking, a lot of elderly simply cannot park ime. In this situation, the guy did actually park elsewhere after you shouted in the car park, so not sure what you felt you'd get out of making a scene in the surgery? Maybe count to 10 before (over) reacting.

Rhinohides · 09/02/2024 18:21

@Namechangey23 The Gentleman was quite elderly and your comment about Spec savers could be seen as demeaning to visually impaired- really hope he doesn’t wear glasses. Could it be you’re a bit of a bully? Would you have gone head to head with an another woman similar in age and build to you in a public place? Asking questions as you are asking us why you do these things but maybe you are better off asking yourself. If you think you may be a bully- perhaps seek help now because no one wants to be someone who could start a slanging match with an elderly gent 💐

LadyKenya · 09/02/2024 18:19

Vivi0 · 09/02/2024 18:08

On what planet was the OP “standing up for herself”.

She approached an elderly man standing in the waiting room of a GP practice in a confrontational manner and told him he “should have gone to specsavers”.

If the man had initiated the confrontation with the OP in the waiting room, she absolutely would have been “standing up for herself” but she was 100% the aggressor in this situation. She said herself that she approached him. She had absolutely no reason to do that.

I agree.

Barrenfieldoffucks · 09/02/2024 18:17

Your aggression is always justified, but that of others is the root cause of society’s ills. Gotcha.

As I said on page 1, you clearly think you are a lot more reasonable than you actually are. Whereas actually, you sound aggressive and quick to anger.

DollyMcDollerson · 09/02/2024 18:16

I can be quite "fiesty" too, so I sort of see where you are coming from, although I'm too reserved to have started on someone in front of everybody in the doctor's surgery.

I know some posters called out the person who said about mentioning the concerning driving to the receptionist. I probably would have done that too, although I am quite militant about dangerous older drivers from personal experience in my family. I wish someone outside of the family had called out that person. If he had to be warned twice about reversing and there was no way for you to safely get out of the way and he kept coming, then that is dangerous, negligent driving and worthy of drawing attention to.

NotSoBigCrocodile · 09/02/2024 18:13

Lifeomars · 09/02/2024 17:08

I really understand where you are coming from as I can get like this and l do sometimes worry that I am going to get myself punched or stabbed. I used to just seethe inside but lately I have been getting so pissed off with people and their bad ignorant behaviour it is as if my filter has gone! Take last week for example, I ended up losing it with a guy who was riding his bike on the pavement, I had to dodge out of his way and he raised his hand to thank me. This seemed to trigger something in me, his arrogance and entitlement perhaps , the way I had to leap to one side to stop him mowing me down. Anyway I screamed at him called him a "an arrogant wanker" and followed this up by telling him to "ride your fucking bike on the fucking road you utter tosser" . Another incident occurred when two guys parked outside my house and were running their engine for at least 20 mins so I went out and banged on the window and just told them to "fuck off". I used to be quite reasonable, in the past I would have explained to those blokes that they are breaking the law, polluting the environment and disturbing me and would have made a polite request for them to switch the car engine off. Now I just seem to go from 0 to 100 in a few seconds and it does worry me that one day I am going to eff and blind at someone who then responds with violence. The guys in the car called me a "fucking cunt" and said they could do what they want, which I think is the root of a lot of the behaviour we see so much of today.

So you aggressively banging on your window and telling someone to “fuck off” is perfectly acceptable, but them calling you a “fucking cunt” in response is problematic.

You actually couldn’t make it up.

Vivi0 · 09/02/2024 18:08

Ohlookwhoitis · 09/02/2024 17:39

Your posts are ridiculous, dramatic and ott. OPs child is not going to grow up to batter everyone in his path because he witnessed his mother standing up for herself a few times.

On what planet was the OP “standing up for herself”.

She approached an elderly man standing in the waiting room of a GP practice in a confrontational manner and told him he “should have gone to specsavers”.

If the man had initiated the confrontation with the OP in the waiting room, she absolutely would have been “standing up for herself” but she was 100% the aggressor in this situation. She said herself that she approached him. She had absolutely no reason to do that.

SloaneStreetVandal · 09/02/2024 18:05

You say your husband @Namechangey23 is incredibly sedate, thus you're perhaps comparing yourself to him unfavourably, and setting yourself an impossible standard. Its perfectly normal to get annoyed sometimes!
You went way over the top with the guy in the surgery though. Telling him he nearly hit you, and to be more vigilant in future, would've been enough. Reminding yourself to be mindful, and to make your point and then walk away, will help.

saraclara · 09/02/2024 17:54

I've said I was hoping for an apology and to make him aware of what he'd done

But again, he was already aware if what he'd done, and addressing him in the way you did (confrontingly, sarcastically and publically) was never going to result in an apology, because people in his situation will have an adrenaline response too... to being confronted in that manner.

But you do want to change how you respond, so I hope you find something that works for you.
And your kids to need to see you reacting calmly to this stuff. Yes, they need to see you standing up for yourself, but in situations where it's necessary (and this wasn't) and in a calm but firm way, so that they learn that kind of response.

Good luck. I'm sure there's a strategy out there that will work for you.

Snuggleyou · 09/02/2024 17:53

BuddhaAtSea · 09/02/2024 12:28

I would have done the same, but rather than confronting him in reception, I would have said to the receptionist ( so he can hear): the gentleman seems to have no awareness and repeatedly tried to reverse into me and my child. I’m going to report his driving, but I’m letting you know he is not safe, in case there is a medical underlying reason. And then tilt my head at him.

I live in God’s waiting room it seems, got practice with this kind of shit.

🙄

Boobettes · 09/02/2024 17:53

Namechangey23 · 09/02/2024 17:31

I don't have another word to articulate this- other than stuff or people who put my son's safety in jeopardy is really very triggering.

And that'll be you one day.

You said yourself you're very sarcastic. One day you might trap off to the wrong person in front of your child and get a punch in the mouth.

DyslexicPoster · 09/02/2024 17:50

I think you just need to practice not getting angry at the minor things. I ne er get road rage for example. People can be as stupid as they wish to be, as long as I'm not actually hit.

People generally are pretty thick and selfish unfortunately. I don't know what I'd have done re the reversing car as you couldn't have avoided it. But he's probably unsafe on the road. Maybe think of non open ended statements to not enter conversations if you can.

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Woodenwonder · 09/02/2024 17:48

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No indeed, how patronising. Around half the posters are endorsing and applauding OPs self reflection.

Nobody is trying to wind up someone who gets inflamed easily I don't think. Maybe a small minority who like that kind of thing but that's MN for you.

Ohlookwhoitis · 09/02/2024 17:45

Veronicaisaflower · 09/02/2024 17:43

And you are ridiculous for enabling poor behaviour. I bet you're angry too 😅.

Why do you keep making up lies on this thread?

Checken · 09/02/2024 17:45

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Veronicaisaflower · 09/02/2024 17:44

Namechangey23 · 09/02/2024 17:41

Wow I'm raising a danger to all women look out. And I have two of them! Future monsters. Seriously though I don't want to model bad behaviour to them, I want them to be well adjusted individuals who champion women (and other men!).

Well, just carry on as you are then 🤷‍♀️.

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