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Best friend only wants to catch up with me (childfree) at kid-oriented venues

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PlaygroundSusie · 03/02/2024 12:23

Hi all - I’m childfree, so I hope it’s ok for me to post here. But I’d really appreciate some advice/perspective from parents.

My best friend and I are both 38. Met at uni. She has two children, DS aged 7 and a DD aged 3. She and her kids come as a package deal. She chooses not to socialise without them. This is because (as she’s explained) she wants to cherish every moment while they are still young. She works part-time and her kids are in loads of activities, so family time is vitally important to her.

I respect her decision and understand her kids are her top priority. I am also fond of her children and enjoy seeing them. The problem arises in where we meet. My friend never wants to stop at home. She always wants to catch up at very child-friendly venues. Usually playgrounds, but sometimes places like petting zoos, children's museums, festivals aimed at pre-schoolers, etc.

This means her kids are usually excitable, and easily distracted, and tend to race around a lot. Or they need help navigating the slide, or want to be pushed on the swings, etc. About 80% of my time is usually spent watching or helping my friend parent her children, and only 20% is us actually catching up and having a proper conversation.

On the very rare occasions we meet at her house, it’s much better. The split is more like 50/50. I happily interact with her children for a bit, but then they drift off to their toys, backyard, etc, and my friend and I chat. But unfortunately, my friend and her kids get bored at home, and prefer to get out of the house. Cafes are occasionally an option if it’s raining, or too hot, but otherwise they want the playground or some other place specifically designed for kids.

At the risk of sounding horrible, I’m tired of always catching up at child-oriented venues. I’ve been doing this for years, and there seems to be no end in sight. I’ve reached my limit. We’re catching up this weekend, and I suggested meeting at a café in a park (I figured we could maybe have coffee then go for a walk afterward). Her response was: “DS7 and DD3 would prefer to meet you at the playground. So, the playground it is – LOL!” Again, I appreciate her children come first, but I did find this a bit frustrating. Shouldn’t the grown-ups get to choose the venue?

AIBU? Is there a polite way I could tell her I’m sick of always meeting at child-oriented venues, and that I’d vastly prefer to simply catch-up at her house or a café? Any other suggestions? I feel like such an awful friend for feeling this way!

OP posts:
LenaLamont · 03/02/2024 17:10

This is bats -there's no way I would want to spend my free time at a playground in February!

"What time are the children in bed? Shall I come by half an hour after that with a bottle of wine for a catch-up?"

Ulysees · 03/02/2024 17:07

Nope this isn't fair.

Maybe it's time to find other close friends if you haven't already. I have different ones now to when I was in my 20s.

CountryFrost · 03/02/2024 17:07

I get the whole being with the kids during the day, aside from their only young for so long, logistically my DD is my responsibly at weekends as DH works, but is there a reason you can’t catch up of an evening when they’re in bed? If she’s a single parent, can you not head round with takeaway after they’re asleep if she can’t go out? One of my best friends is a parent with same age children but we intentionally meet whilst their at school as otherwise it’s a play date where we barely get time to chat as usually interrupted, not a catch up

Joeylove88 · 03/02/2024 17:06

I agree with others that the arrangement is a bit ridiculous. Are you having to pay out to get into all of these children friendly places shes asking you to meet her at? Shes way over the top saying that she cant ever socialise without her children and I say that as a mother! I love my DD more than anything but childfree time with my friends is really important too. You shouldnt have to always go by her rules and even if she is a single mum I would suggest what others have said and you go to hers in the evening maybe help with the childrens bedtime then you can catch up with her when they are in bed.

MargaretThursday · 03/02/2024 17:00

Does she have to bring the dc?

I had a friend who always wanted to meet up at a time I really didn't have a choice because dh was working. Any suggestions of later, when he'd have been home and they didn't like it.

If she has to bring the dc, then something like the playground when the dc will run off and be happy is better than a coffee shop when you've got them at the same table and whinging that they want another cookie and interrupting because they're bored. or worse, listening to the conversation and putting in their own comments. 🤣

MagpiePi · 03/02/2024 17:00

Her response was: “DS7 and DD3 would prefer to meet you at the playground. So, the playground it is – LOL!”

This is just nuts 🙄

MerryMarigold · 03/02/2024 16:58

Maybe you could meet at softplay the the kids go off while you talk. However, I do think it's weird that she has to bring them all the time. Is she a single mum? The kids sound very demanding too.

wronginalltherightways · 03/02/2024 16:56

Why can't their father look after them while you have an occasional grown up catch up, OP?

Riverlee · 03/02/2024 16:53

Does the three year old go to nursery? If so, can you grab a coffee when the children are at school and nursery (subject to work) or meet one lunchtime when there’s only one child?

DeeLusional · 03/02/2024 16:50

And yet another woman wracked with angst because she can't just say what she wants.

Couldyounot · 03/02/2024 16:48

3 kids here and what your friend keeps doing would get on my fucking tits.

motheronthedancefloor · 03/02/2024 16:47

You're not a friend. You're a mother's helper except you're not getting paid.

aloris · 03/02/2024 16:44

She's just using you for help with her children. A meetup in a cafe followed by a walk is a perfectly nice way to have a catch-up and then do something that's good and entertaining for the kids. But meeting at a playground where you barely get to say hello before you have to help someone on the slide, is basically just being another pair of hands for her.

You said that when you meet up at her home, her kids will play with their own toys, but she chooses NOT to, because she prefers to maximise their happiness by always taking them to entertaining places. IMO, this is just another way of saying that the reason she doesn't meet you at her home is because she doesn't value talking to you enough to deprive her children of an hour of being the center of her attention. She only works part-time and her kids are in "lots of activities" is her excuse. But working part time should leave her lots of time to be with her children so, if they are in lots of activities, it's only because she put them there. She just doesn't respect you enough to be with you when she's being with you.

Just my opinion

MassiveOvaryaction · 03/02/2024 16:41

I'm not sure there is a polite way of saying it @PlaygroundSusie but I think you do need to say it.

fitzwilliamdarcy · 03/02/2024 16:36

Been here a few times - you’re not her friend, you’re an unpaid childminder.

I let these friendships go. What’s the point in choosing not to have kids and then spending time parenting someone else’s?!

YANBU in the least.

WigglyVonWaggly · 03/02/2024 16:35

I also think I’d be honest and say something like, ‘As you know, I’ve come along to the park and soft play many times as this is what you’ve always wanted to do but to be honest it’s not all that fun for me as it’s difficult for us to have much of a conversation. I think time we switched things up a bit and did something different. Can we meet in X pub for a drink?’

AinsleyHayes · 03/02/2024 16:29

Is she a single parent?

mnahmnah · 03/02/2024 16:28

I would plan to meet in the evenings when the kids are in bed - providing she has a partner at home, or grandparents that can come over?

I don’t understand people who never want a bit of me time!

pictoosh · 03/02/2024 16:21

Crayfishforyou · 03/02/2024 15:10

Msg back ‘what time will you be there? I’ll meet you at the cafe an hour or so later when they are tired/hungry’

Perfect.

determinedtomakethiswork · 03/02/2024 16:17

I agree with the previous poster that she will be very unpleasant if you tell it to her straight.

Do you end up treating them financially?

To be honest I would only agree to go to her house. Playgrounds are hell and one of the perks of not having children is that you don't have to go to them!

FancyJapflack · 03/02/2024 16:15

“I’ve decided I need to cherish my other friends while I can, before they have kids”.

wellhello24 · 03/02/2024 16:07

You are friends so it should be fair for both of you ie take it in turns- child venue then non child venue. I have a child and I can’t think of anything worse- I need time away with friends to be just me not mum me. She is being selfish & borish. Speak up for yourself

Talk66talk · 03/02/2024 15:59

Oh God. I would be very nice but firm. Just approach it first just say "next time can we meet for a coffee on X day without the kids if you dont mind". If she doesn't take the hint I would just say you are unable to make it to if she suggests the playground.

If its any consultation I'm a mum also and even I would rather meet friends whilst the kids are at school. Never happens though it's all about the DC for some mums!

uncomfortablydumb53 · 03/02/2024 15:59

YANBU
She sounds selfish and way OTT
The fact you're childfree is a red herring as most parents would rather catch up with a friend for a proper conversation
Of course time with children is important to her, but so should your friendship be
I have 3 sons and there were times I was desperate for adult conversation even though I had a DH at the time!
Is she a single parent? Or has a job where she can't spend much time with them?
Could you suggest going to hers after Dc are in bed?
Friendship is a two way street

cestlavielife · 03/02/2024 15:57

Doeak up.
Surely you have grown up things to do in day time?
"Hey i am actually busy in the day time. Why dont we book a cinema evening if their dad can baby sit? We can get a drink before and chat."

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