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MrsToriCostner · 02/02/2024 09:34

Sorry guys, I just really need a rant!

SAHM here, two kids, almost 7, almost 2.

Got up this morning, came down, kitchen a mess from me cooking last night.

Presumed DH would have sorted it or at least filled the dishwasher and turned it on last night.

I do DHs packed lunch for work and shout up and ask him to bring any glasses/pots from upstairs meanwhile I've told DC1 to get dressed for school numerous times but they are not listening and still in pjs watching tv.

I go upstairs to get ready for the school run and find glasses/pots in DC1 bedroom, DH has taken the flat sheet off our bed and dumped it on the floor and left it there because DC2 leaked in the night apparently. His socks are dumped on the floor too, it's the same every morning, I find myself putting them in the wash basket myself.

DC1 is still not dressed and apparently can't find any socks despite multiple pairs been in the wardrobe.

So I'm shouting loud by now as we are going to be late and I'm taking 2 kids on the school run.

I don't know why I'm writing this, I just feel I could fall out with the world today 🙁

OP posts:
Magnificentbeast · 02/02/2024 16:54

Scarydinosaurs · 02/02/2024 09:44

I really feel for you.

I’ve been there - and this is now what I do:

  1. Don’t make anyone their lunch. Even my youngest has made their own from age 7.
  2. TV off in the morning. When it is on, no one listens.
  3. Only wash your own clothes and children’s clothes.
  4. Tell your DH to do the kitchen. Not every day - he needs to use his eyes and see it needs doing. But don’t bottle it up - don’t rely on mind reading. It should be obvious, but it isn’t. Every morning/evening now my DH does the kitchen as I do every dinner (with timings for work, this works for us).

I mean, @Scarydinosaurs has summed it up nicely. It's definitely something to aim for.

I would also add that pots, cups, plates etc shouldn't go upstairs, especially if no one bothers to bring them down again. It sounds as if this was an exception because DC was unwell so that's fair enough, but as a rule don't allow it.

Mornings can be really painful when organising young children but it's possible to streamline things. Brace yourself for a negative reaction to the new 'regime' but stand firm. No TV in the mornings is a big adjustment if they're used to having it (been there myself) but eventually they will adjust. Stay calm and explain why it has to be that way.

Good luck!

Begsthequestion · 02/02/2024 16:49

lifeispainauchocolat · 02/02/2024 16:32

I don't think you can realistically compare the very different lifestyles of "bachelor" and "married man with children".

I know that when I met DH, he regularly left all his laundry and housework until Saturday mornings and just did the absolute bare minimum during the week. No, he didn't leave dirty laundry all over the floor but it was normal for the laundry basket to be overflowing on Saturday morning and he'd then do 3-4 loads in a day.

He was living alone so it didn't matter. But when we moved in together, he didn't need telling - he just realised he couldn't carry on doing whatever he wanted anymore and he changed his ways.

Well I'm wondering about men who leave dirty clothes on the floor, not men like your DH who don't and never did.

I don't see anything particular to the "bachelor lifestyle" (is that still a thing? They're just single men, right?) that says they can't use a wash basket. Teenagers maybe, but not grown men.

MrsToriCostner · 02/02/2024 16:44

Small steps but we've started as we mean to go on.

The tv doesn't get switched on until we've done reading. We never do reading after school on a Friday but today we have.

Now he's allowed to watch Bluey for a little while.

OP posts:
lifeispainauchocolat · 02/02/2024 16:32

Begsthequestion · 02/02/2024 16:16

I wonder, did these slovenly men just wade through piles of dirty clothing until laundry day before they got a live-in helper?

Or did they start leaving their dirty clothes around afterwards, like it's just a perk of having a life partner?

I don't think you can realistically compare the very different lifestyles of "bachelor" and "married man with children".

I know that when I met DH, he regularly left all his laundry and housework until Saturday mornings and just did the absolute bare minimum during the week. No, he didn't leave dirty laundry all over the floor but it was normal for the laundry basket to be overflowing on Saturday morning and he'd then do 3-4 loads in a day.

He was living alone so it didn't matter. But when we moved in together, he didn't need telling - he just realised he couldn't carry on doing whatever he wanted anymore and he changed his ways.

Seaoftroubles · 02/02/2024 16:29

Maybe l'm old fashioned but l don't get this OP. As you are a SAHM why don't you do the tidying etc when you get back from the school run? (apart from making his lunch) That's what l did when my kids were young and when l was a SAHM for a while. l saw that as my job. Different when you're both working obviously.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 02/02/2024 16:28

DropDeadFreida · 02/02/2024 15:20

A lot of posters seem to have a different understanding of what it means to be a SAHP than I do. To me, it means that while one person is working out of the house, the SAHP is working inside the house. Each person's job should by and large last the same amount of time. The OP has two young children, one who is a toddler. So in my eyes, between 9-5 (or whatever the hours are), her DH works outside the house, and between 9-5 she works inside the house looking after the children and the house. And then when her DH is back at home, they both PARENT together. Why is that so difficult to understand?

Do none of you do housework, cooking, parenting duties, put on a load of washing etc when you finish work?

Throwing pissy sheets on the floor shows a level of contempt that I would not be able to stomach. You are his wife, his partner, the mother of his children-not his skivvy.

Being a SAHP should not be a 24hr/day job. It should last as long as the other partner is also working outside of the house, and then both partners should be coming together to share the load the rest of the time.

Stripping the bed and leaving the sheets to be washed is not disrespectful. It's helpful by not leaving the sheets on the bed to soak it.

Mt DH has to leave by 7am for an hours commute to work. Any later and its more than an hour. If he noticed the sheets were wet he'd take them off, but as he doesn't have time to find anything else that could go with it in the wash OR know what I planned to wash that day (as I usually handle the washing), he'd leave them ready to be washed. And I'd be happy that my DDs bed was airing and not covered in "pissy sheets".

You can make anyone's actions seem selfish and disrespectful by taking them totally out of context and twisting it to fit your narrative.

RedHelenB · 02/02/2024 16:23

innerdesign · 02/02/2024 09:46

Honestly, assuming your husband works full time, I'd be expecting you to wash the bedsheets and clean the kitchen since you're in the house all day. Probably not a popular opinion

This.

ClaudiaWankleman · 02/02/2024 16:22

Begsthequestion · 02/02/2024 16:16

I wonder, did these slovenly men just wade through piles of dirty clothing until laundry day before they got a live-in helper?

Or did they start leaving their dirty clothes around afterwards, like it's just a perk of having a life partner?

Neither. I think quite a few people, men and women, live at home and their parents still deal with quite a bit of the laundry, or they do live with laundry on the floor until they grow up a bit. I don't think people start living that way once they have children...

WhiteLily1 · 02/02/2024 16:20

Heather37231 · 02/02/2024 10:29

WTF? You don't wash your DPs clothes? Does your DP have a separate bin, separate meals too?

@Finlesswonder I am not the poster you are responding to but yes, my DH has his own laundry basket in our bedroom, as do DS and I. I would not want my clothes mixed up with their smelly stuff!! I also don’t want to be responsible for making sure his stuff doesn’t shrink, colour run etc.

I do DS and me, DH sorts out his own.

I’m not a SAHM but I don’t think it would be unreasonable for a SAHM to do the same.
I remember my Dad in the mornings shouting at my Mum “Gladys, where are my clean underpants?” And Mum ironing all his shirts. Fuck that.

Meals are entirely different because unlike with laundry eating them as a family is actually a pleasurable thing.

Edited

Each to their own but I find this extremely bizarre

Begsthequestion · 02/02/2024 16:16

I wonder, did these slovenly men just wade through piles of dirty clothing until laundry day before they got a live-in helper?

Or did they start leaving their dirty clothes around afterwards, like it's just a perk of having a life partner?

lifeispainauchocolat · 02/02/2024 15:58

Do none of you do housework, cooking, parenting duties, put on a load of washing etc when you finish work?

Of course, every single day.

But if DH was home all day with a one year old, I would expect him to spend some of that time doing things like laundry and dishes.

I do think he should be picking up his dirty socks and bringing his dishes down, but I don't think he should be expected to do laundry and dishes when he has a partner who is home all day. I know that's probably not a very popular view though.

If I stayed home all day and DH went to work, I certainly wouldn't expect him to spend his mornings sorting the laundry, or his evenings doing the dishes.

PeppermintMandy · 02/02/2024 15:55

innerdesign · 02/02/2024 09:46

Honestly, assuming your husband works full time, I'd be expecting you to wash the bedsheets and clean the kitchen since you're in the house all day. Probably not a popular opinion

I’m a SAHP & I agree. Leaving mugs upstairs or socks on the floor is not ok IMO. They should get put in the kitchen, socks in the laundry basket etc, but the household chores of laundry and dishes fall to the SAHP during the week as far as I’m concerned. Especially with a kid in school all day. On the weekend both parents do their fair share.

Y6yhnsr5 · 02/02/2024 15:51

We have a no dishes and no food upstairs rule. I don't care if you want a cup of tea before bed, you will drink it downstairs.

Like others have suggested, your husband can absolutely make his own lunch. One less thing for you to worry about.

Absolutely NO TV in the morning. Your child needs to wake up, eat breakfast, get ready for school. That's it.

If you want your husband to do the cleaning and washing up after tea, you need to tell him. Some men are considerate (like mine) and will just do it anyway since you did the cooking but there are some that needs to be told. Now if you tell him and he doesn't do it then go mad!

There's nothing I hate more than dirty clothes on the floor. My DH use to do that shit early on when we first started living together. I nipped it in the bud immediately and now he wouldn't dare.

In summary, you need to set your expectations clear. Tell him what you expect of him and if he can't change then you need to kick him to the curb. Hard for you to do when you're not working but this is why I'm not a big fan of women totally relying on men financially. It's really problematic especially in times like these when you have a useless man like your DH. He probably thinks all he needs to do in this life is bring in some money and that's it.

Good luck with it all. If you don't start being tough on him then you will forever be the servant my dear.

Maray1967 · 02/02/2024 15:46

Just remembered that your youngest is not at school - but it should still work if you stay firm.

Take a big deep breath- it’s Friday! - and prepare for Monday. Put today behind you.

Skodacool · 02/02/2024 15:46

Agree about no tv until dressed and ready for school

Maray1967 · 02/02/2024 15:43

MrsToriCostner · 02/02/2024 09:54

I need to tackle this tv situation and get strict on it because it's a daily occurrence and I'm just letting it happen.

Yes, you need to make a change here. A friend struggled with this and wondered why I didn’t. I explained that I didn’t turn the TV on in the morning - never started, so mine didn’t expect it, I suppose. It’s going to be harder now they’re used to it, but if they’re at school they’re old enough to understand consequences. On Monday it does not go on until they’re dressed and had breakfast and brushed their teeth. The quicker they get themselves sorted, the more TV they can have. Tell them over the weekend, remind them on Sunday evening, and follow through. Be prepared for a battle but stay calm and firm.

Any clothes left on the floor by your DH, throw in the bottom of his wardrobe. Make it clear that you only wash what is in the basket. In my experience, this one is grasped quickly if you follow through. Don’t get upset and shout, just calmly explain the new approach - and do it.

deveronvalley · 02/02/2024 15:39

Probably suggested already

  • husband can make own lunch
  • ban dishes/glasses/pots upstairs forever, make it a habit now while kids are young
  • no tv in the morning until all ‘getting ready’ tasks are done
  • do not pick up husbands dirty clothes, leave them, as long as it takes, I’ve retrained my 56 year old husband to pick up his own, it’s been difficult but you must leave them where they lay! Or maybe kick the socks to somewhere that annoys you a bit less!
LadyBird1973 · 02/02/2024 15:34

Most working adults without a sah partner, have to cook their own meals and load their own dishwasher. Having a wife at home doesn't make a man exempt from doing basic adulting tasks. She cooked, he should help clean up.

And @Str8talkin not leaving your manky socks on the floor doesn't mean you are living like a lodger. It means not living like a slob!

Thehigheroffer · 02/02/2024 15:31

Idontjetwashthefucker · 02/02/2024 09:44

Or glasses as stated in her post

Surely it's just a colloquial term in most of Britain for kitchenware ie pots and pans.

WomanHereWomanHere · 02/02/2024 15:25

MrsToriCostner · 02/02/2024 09:44

By pots I mean a few glasses, sorry not been clear.

You were fine OP. It was clear what you meant!

OneMoreTime23 · 02/02/2024 15:25

A lot of posters seem to have a different understanding of what it means to be a SAHP than I do. To me, it means that while one person is working out of the house, the SAHP is working inside the house. Each person's job should by and large last the same amount of time. The OP has two young children, one who is a toddler. So in my eyes, between 9-5 (or whatever the hours are), her DH works outside the house, and between 9-5 she works inside the house looking after the children and the house. And then when her DH is back at home, they both PARENT together. Why is that so difficult to understand?

For her first 2 years DH worked away 5.5 days a week. He absolutely did as much housework as he could for the 36 hours he was home each week. OP’s DH should be able to do considerably more if he is home more than he is at work.

TightWadinSurrey · 02/02/2024 15:22

Think many posters are fair to assume that if you’re a SAHM then the house/home is your workplace - ie cleaning the kitchen after a meal in the evening is within your remit. In my own marriage - DH works very long hours, often travels for days or weeks - I am the person primarily responsible for our home, along with the DCs. However, this does not mean lack of respect or a belief that his job is more important than mine, so at weekends he often does the cooking/cleans the kitchen etc.

I wonder whether what underlies your comment is that you feel your contribution to the marriage is not valued? It seems, perhaps, less an issue of whether your husband should have cleaned the kitchen (if it wasn’t expressly agreed he should, why would he?) or stripped the bed to prevent wet sheets from soiling the mattress (useful and thoughtful, even though popping them next to/into the washing machine might have been nice), or even - amongst bed stripping - leaving a pair of socks on the floor (which I’m sure you normally don’t mind and, if socks were on the other foot, so to speak, he’d have picked up yours?).

As mentioned in my PP above, there are simple steps you can take to support your 6yo into independence (no telly before she’s ready for school), that could take the heat out of the morning routine - but what I am hearing is the fact that you feel unappreciated and unvalued.

I would talk to DH about this, perhaps join a mum & baby group if you haven’t found one where you can talk to other mums, and try and carve some ‘you’ time out at the weekend when you can try to feel more yourself. A toddler is hard enough on their own, but with a 6yo and the high expectations of school for homework/reading etc it can feel overwhelming.

You’ve had a bad day today. Put it behind you.

DropDeadFreida · 02/02/2024 15:20

A lot of posters seem to have a different understanding of what it means to be a SAHP than I do. To me, it means that while one person is working out of the house, the SAHP is working inside the house. Each person's job should by and large last the same amount of time. The OP has two young children, one who is a toddler. So in my eyes, between 9-5 (or whatever the hours are), her DH works outside the house, and between 9-5 she works inside the house looking after the children and the house. And then when her DH is back at home, they both PARENT together. Why is that so difficult to understand?

Do none of you do housework, cooking, parenting duties, put on a load of washing etc when you finish work?

Throwing pissy sheets on the floor shows a level of contempt that I would not be able to stomach. You are his wife, his partner, the mother of his children-not his skivvy.

Being a SAHP should not be a 24hr/day job. It should last as long as the other partner is also working outside of the house, and then both partners should be coming together to share the load the rest of the time.

sbhydrogen · 02/02/2024 15:16

I think it's nice that you make your DH's packed lunch! I second all the posters that say get a lot of stuff ready the night before and remove TV from the morning routine, especially as it distracts your DH when he really should be helping get the kids ready for the day.

I hope the wee soaked sheets were on a wipe clean floor and not a rug or carpet! That would drive me insane. Socks left on the floor are annoying but not the end of the world.

CHRIS003 · 02/02/2024 15:15

Would have preferred that he left the dirty sheet on the bed ?

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