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If VAT is added on Private School Fees, then it will be added onto University fees as well

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AgathaCrispee · 31/01/2024 08:06

Does it worry you that this new policy of adding VAT on educational fees will also be applied to university fees as well?

AIBU to think this will put university out of the reach of the majority of families who will support their kids through Uni?

Also, for those who do go the level of debt they will come out with will be really big.

If they can apply VAT to private school educational fees then they've setup a case for Independent schools argue that it must be applied to Uni as well.

Is this going to create a situation where only the wealthy can send their kids to Uni?

I'm wondering why no one is asking this question!!

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shewasrooting · 01/02/2024 18:00

Araminta1003 · 01/02/2024 17:59

Again, I was quoting Diane Young talking about herself as working class. There are quotation marks- the devil is in the detail. My personal input was literally “well said Diane Young”

You are misquoting to discredit my questions. Cheap shot. Hot air.

i posted the link
i posted the page 27

you say that you have chosen to send your children to private school

you say you had a working class background

it really is as plain as day

If VAT is added on Private School Fees, then it will be added onto University fees as well
Araminta1003 · 01/02/2024 17:59

Again, I was quoting Diane Young talking about herself as working class. There are quotation marks- the devil is in the detail. My personal input was literally “well said Diane Young”

You are misquoting to discredit my questions. Cheap shot. Hot air.

coffeeaddict77 · 01/02/2024 17:57

labamba007 · 01/02/2024 17:45

The op doesn't send her children to private school though?

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Is this the OP who changed her username so noone could go over her posting history and find anything that could be used to "pick her apart" . Some people might think there will be evidence in previous post that would contradict their assertion that her children are at private school. Obviously I'm not saying that though...

shewasrooting · 01/02/2024 17:54

oh, i’ll suppose i’ll never know! 😂

labamba007 · 01/02/2024 17:45

Paellaaaa · 31/01/2024 08:47

Loving the flurry of panicked private school parent threads. So because nobody gives a shit re a privileged few having to pay more for a damaging luxury it’s now time to try scaremongering.🙄

The op doesn't send her children to private school though?

shewasrooting · 01/02/2024 17:35

shewasrooting · 01/02/2024 17:22

in your words “the devil is in the detail”…

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yes but you were indicating that if i posted the thread it would somehow prove you hadn’t said or meant that you were working class?

so….?

shewasrooting · 01/02/2024 17:33

So….

on the other thread you list the reasons why you opted for private for your children.

shewasrooting · 01/02/2024 17:32

Araminta1003 · 01/02/2024 17:28

@shewasrooting - you need to go back to school and practise your reading comprehension.

I was literally quoting Diane Young. The devil is in the detail

love it!

shewasrooting · 01/02/2024 17:31

deleted as wrong thread

Araminta1003 · 01/02/2024 17:28

@shewasrooting - you need to go back to school and practise your reading comprehension.

I was literally quoting Diane Young. The devil is in the detail

shewasrooting · 01/02/2024 17:23

Araminta1003 · 01/02/2024 17:21

“so you don’t think class and a discussion regarding private/ state schools is relevant?”

I think that would be simplistic based on cliches. Some people are adopted for example. Not everyone is white born in this country etc and middle class from the same parentage. People are individuals. You can’t just apply cliches.

the “cliche” being that class has no bearing on whether or not a child is sent to private school by a family?

interesting

shewasrooting · 01/02/2024 17:22

shewasrooting · 01/02/2024 17:20

page 27

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/education/4907309-vat-on-private-school-fees?page=27&reply=129670157

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in your words “the devil is in the detail”…

shewasrooting · 01/02/2024 17:21

holy moly

@Araminta1003 you say in that post on the other thread

My choice to opt for private school is a simple one.
The school fees are not too dissimilar to that of most London-based private nurseries or childminders; my husband and I saw school fees as an extension of those fees demanded during our children’s early years.
Additionally, I’ve learnt too often, life is not fair; so why should I subject my children to the same mediocre education that I received in a south London state school?

wow!!! i have never ever come across this level of hypocrisy on mumsnet before!!

Araminta1003 · 01/02/2024 17:21

“so you don’t think class and a discussion regarding private/ state schools is relevant?”

I think that would be simplistic based on cliches. Some people are adopted for example. Not everyone is white born in this country etc and middle class from the same parentage. People are individuals. You can’t just apply cliches.

Araminta1003 · 01/02/2024 17:19

My mother was a poor emigrant from an ex Soviet state. Is class defined maternally or paternally?

Cattymonster · 01/02/2024 17:19

No.

shewasrooting · 01/02/2024 17:16

Araminta1003 · 01/02/2024 17:15

Please link the exact thread @shewasrooting - the devil is in the detail…

one min…

shewasrooting · 01/02/2024 17:16

Araminta1003 · 01/02/2024 17:14

So this is now a class thread?

ah it likes that now.

so you don’t think class and a discussion regarding private/ state schools is relevant?

My family is also full of high ranking army/diplomatic services/intelligence so boarding is not only the expectation, but also suits a lot of the personalities

and also i have a working class background.

interesting

Newbutoldfather · 01/02/2024 17:16

It is perfectly fair and reasonable to levy VAT on private schools.

Universities, on the other hand, need to be reimagined, although in a going back to the future kind of way.

We have some great universities and some very average ones. It really doesn’t serve most young people well to be educated beyond 18. Asking them to get into debt to achieve very little and then giving them a meaningless piece of paper with an inflated degree on it is basically conning them. They would be better off starting work at 18.

This would also solve some of the demographic problems we are battling with the young population providing 3 more years of productive work.

Universities should be for the top 10% who can really benefit from exploring subjects in greater depth than advanced level study at school. These people should be really helped by the government, maybe with non repayable loans as long as they pay uk tax for 20 years (or something similar). When I was at uni, we had means-tested grants, but only about 6% of the country went to uni, so this was very affordable.

In the above scenario, VAT wouldn’t be an issue,

Araminta1003 · 01/02/2024 17:15

Please link the exact thread @shewasrooting - the devil is in the detail…

Araminta1003 · 01/02/2024 17:14

So this is now a class thread?

shewasrooting · 01/02/2024 17:13

Araminta1003 · 01/02/2024 17:11

Yes armed forces. DH also on full paid scholarship/bursary, so what?

both parents in the military

and the army paid for private schooling?

they would have been officers. Working class? 🤔

shewasrooting · 01/02/2024 17:12

you don’t need to think about what you may have said

here it is directly

Iam not from a privileged background. I am from a working class background, and I know that children only get one chance

Araminta1003 · 01/02/2024 17:11

Yes armed forces. DH also on full paid scholarship/bursary, so what?